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Re: Fox fired
He had good teams at HS., but here is the record at W&M: 226–268. thanks but no thanks. Lutz record much more impressive.
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Re: Fox fired
Nah.Seattleapp wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:09 amGo away.8993 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:43 amI might catch some (unwarranted) heat for this, but I would also welcome a solid female coach for our men's basketball team. Coach Elderkin turned the women's team around this season and has some fire in her that I think has energized that team a bit more going into the off-season. I would be interested to see if there are any other female coaches out there that would be willing to take this role.
Also, just to be clear: this is not me saying that a female coach should be considered just for her gender. This is me saying that I want the best coach for App State, regardless of their gender, race, ethnicity, age, etc. I want the best for App State and if the best was a female coach for the men's basketball team, then let's go.
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Re: Fox fired
Are you sure about that? An honest question. D2 athletes have the same academic standards etc?appgrad2010 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:57 amYou are incorrect. What rules are more loose that you speak of? So many people have no clue about collegiate athletics.Seattleapp wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:26 amI get nervous when we start talking about guys who don't have experience with Division One recruiting. That applies to rules, standards etc. Division 2 is a lot more loose with the rules to get guys and maybe I'm being overly paranoid but Capel had no experience and you saw where that got us. We need a coach that's going to be regimented both on and of the court. I really don't even want a coach that can't run a tight ship. I want us to have an identity. I want to not worry about violations or guys getting arrested. The guys we have now seem like good dudes, they just didn't have a direction on the actual court. I think we can achieve both with the right hire. I really don't want to take a crazy flier on some of these candidates. OK rant over. Thanks for bearing with me
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Re: Fox fired
Full qualifier for DI is 2.3 core course GPA and 980 SAT
Full qualifier for DII is 2.2 core course GPA and 920 SAT
Full qualifier for DII is 2.2 core course GPA and 920 SAT
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Re: Fox fired
I know for a fact that Tim Craft’s name has come up in Boone. Not my first choice, but I’ll admit I don’t know much about him. GO APPS!appgrad2010 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:11 amTim Craft
Mike Jones
Both would be exceptional hires and fits.
Need someone who embraces community and the university.
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Re: Fox fired
I certainly don’t think this will happen, but if Shaver came here that would mean Seacat would play for a coach that he transferred from. Never heard of that happening before.
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Re: Fox fired
I wasn't advocating for him. Just pointing out that he has been a successful coach at a lower level. I actually would have no problem with Lutz.sixtoes9134 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:07 pmHe had good teams at HS., but here is the record at W&M: 226–268. thanks but no thanks. Lutz record much more impressive.
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Re: Fox fired
What about Marvin Menzies?Arsenal App wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:21 pmSo far, I haven't seen any candidate that moves me more than Scott Cross, currently an assistant at TCU, and a former head coach at UTA. Good record at a place that had little or no tradition before he took over and knows the Sun Belt. I don't care if he's from Tejas. So was Jerry Moore. My second pick would be Scherz from LMU. He's an intriguing pick with a lot of ........ sorry, but I hate that cliche and refuse to type it.
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Re: Fox fired
They did, and he is a first class individual (he’s a Tar Heel, which are usually strikes 1, 2 and 3 for me, so he had that to overcome). I don’t think everyone understands how difficult it is to get a player into W&M, much less keep them there. Their student selection pool is similar to an Ivy League school, and if they can’t get in, too bad, let JMU have them. I’d like to see what he could do with a little more support and a willingness to work with a recruit who is a good kid, and would represent the University well, but might need some guidance with the books. I don’t know...I’m just saying he’s worth looking at, but if there’s a better fit, I’ll be happy with that, too.hapapp wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:59 pmMaybe she knows someone who played there, like a relative? We do have someone on our roster who played for Shaver.appgrad2010 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:57 amWhy not?AppMom3 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:47 amNot a Tony Shaver fan at all! Do not think he would be a good fit personally.EastHallApp wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:32 pmI think Brant overrates Shaver a bit. He had a Fancher-esque record at W&M over a longer time.
AppinVa knows Tony Shaver because in his days as sportswriter he covered his teams at Hampden-sydney. For what it's worth, the Tigers had some top flight D3 squads.
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Re: Fox fired
Don't know a damn thing about him other than he just got the axe at UNLV. Just the fact that he coached at that dung heap would worry me. But that's just me.T-Dog wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:20 pmWhat about Marvin Menzies?Arsenal App wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:21 pmSo far, I haven't seen any candidate that moves me more than Scott Cross, currently an assistant at TCU, and a former head coach at UTA. Good record at a place that had little or no tradition before he took over and knows the Sun Belt. I don't care if he's from Tejas. So was Jerry Moore. My second pick would be Scherz from LMU. He's an intriguing pick with a lot of ........ sorry, but I hate that cliche and refuse to type it.
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Re: Fox fired
Gotta disagree in one sense. W&M is a public school with a 36 percent acceptance rate. That's highly selective for a public university and that does complicate athletic recruiting. No doubt about it. That 36 percent puts W&M somewhat in the ballpark with UVA and Davidson, both of whom are at about 30 percent. (Davidson is private.)AppinVA wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:28 pmThey did, and he is a first class individual (he’s a Tar Heel, which are usually strikes 1, 2 and 3 for me, so he had that to overcome). I don’t think everyone understands how difficult it is to get a player into W&M, much less keep them there. Their student selection pool is similar to an Ivy League school, and if they can’t get in, too bad, let JMU have them. I’d like to see what he could do with a little more support and a willingness to work with a recruit who is a good kid, and would represent the University well, but might need some guidance with the books. I don’t know...I’m just saying he’s worth looking at, but if there’s a better fit, I’ll be happy with that, too.hapapp wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:59 pmMaybe she knows someone who played there, like a relative? We do have someone on our roster who played for Shaver.appgrad2010 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:57 amWhy not?AppMom3 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:47 amNot a Tony Shaver fan at all! Do not think he would be a good fit personally.EastHallApp wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:32 pm
I think Brant overrates Shaver a bit. He had a Fancher-esque record at W&M over a longer time.
AppinVa knows Tony Shaver because in his days as sportswriter he covered his teams at Hampden-sydney. For what it's worth, the Tigers had some top flight D3 squads.
The Ancient Eight (the Ivys) operate in an alternate universe. They march to the beat of different drummers. As private schools, their acceptance rates vary from a high of 13 percent at Penn and Dartmouth to lows of seven percent at Yale and three percent at Harvard. The other four Ivy institutions are somewhere between their rivals. None of them offer athletic grants-in-aid...only academic aid funded by their gi-normous endowments.
That doesn't diminish the difficulty of recruiting student-athletes to W&M. Average students need not apply. It's just not really comparable with Ivy League institutions. Apples and oranges.
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Re: Fox fired
Ethan Joyce released 10 names of *potential* candidates, or people he thinks we should call. Well 9, and our beloved Matt McMahon (who we all want, but also know he ain’t coming). Most of these names have been mentioned here.
1. Tim Craft (G-W)
2. Bart Lundy (Queens)
3. Kevin McGeehan (Campbell)
4. Levels Moton (NCCU)
5. Josh Schertz (LMU)
6. Nate James (Duke Asst.)
7. Joel Justus (UK Asst.)
8. Takayo Siddle (NCSU Asst.)
9. Bobby Lutz
10. Matt McMahon
Not a fan of McGeehan
Not yet convinced by Moton or Craft, but good potential.
Matt is obvious 1st choice, but Mr. Cobb blew that one.
My top choices would be Schertz or Lundy. Nate James would be great, but I really think we need a coach with HC experience.
Dont know anything about Justus or Siddle, but I think this is a promising list. GO APPS!!
1. Tim Craft (G-W)
2. Bart Lundy (Queens)
3. Kevin McGeehan (Campbell)
4. Levels Moton (NCCU)
5. Josh Schertz (LMU)
6. Nate James (Duke Asst.)
7. Joel Justus (UK Asst.)
8. Takayo Siddle (NCSU Asst.)
9. Bobby Lutz
10. Matt McMahon
Not a fan of McGeehan
Not yet convinced by Moton or Craft, but good potential.
Matt is obvious 1st choice, but Mr. Cobb blew that one.
My top choices would be Schertz or Lundy. Nate James would be great, but I really think we need a coach with HC experience.
Dont know anything about Justus or Siddle, but I think this is a promising list. GO APPS!!
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Re: Fox fired
I’m just going off what I’ve seen in my daughter’s college search. Still, W&M doesn’t make exceptions.asu66 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:10 pmGotta disagree in one sense. W&M is a public school with a 36 percent acceptance rate. That's highly selective for a public university and that does complicate athletic recruiting. No doubt about it. That 36 percent puts W&M somewhat in the ballpark with UVA and Davidson, both of whom are at about 30 percent. (Davidson is private.)AppinVA wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:28 pmThey did, and he is a first class individual (he’s a Tar Heel, which are usually strikes 1, 2 and 3 for me, so he had that to overcome). I don’t think everyone understands how difficult it is to get a player into W&M, much less keep them there. Their student selection pool is similar to an Ivy League school, and if they can’t get in, too bad, let JMU have them. I’d like to see what he could do with a little more support and a willingness to work with a recruit who is a good kid, and would represent the University well, but might need some guidance with the books. I don’t know...I’m just saying he’s worth looking at, but if there’s a better fit, I’ll be happy with that, too.hapapp wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:59 pmMaybe she knows someone who played there, like a relative? We do have someone on our roster who played for Shaver.
AppinVa knows Tony Shaver because in his days as sportswriter he covered his teams at Hampden-sydney. For what it's worth, the Tigers had some top flight D3 squads.
The Ancient Eight (the Ivys) operate in an alternate universe. They march to the beat of different drummers. As private schools, their acceptance rates vary from a high of 13 percent at Penn and Dartmouth to lows of seven percent at Yale and three percent at Harvard. The other four Ivy institutions are somewhere between their rivals. None of them offer athletic grants-in-aid...only academic aid funded by their gi-normous endowments.
That doesn't diminish the difficulty of recruiting student-athletes to W&M. Average students need not apply. It's just not really comparable with Ivy League institutions. Apples and oranges.
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Re: Fox fired
I think we should have no coach. The 9 seasons we had no coach, we were 86-33.
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Hire No Coach, DG. It will save up some money for football.
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Hire No Coach, DG. It will save up some money for football.
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