If Justus were to get the job, that would be 2 guys App will have hired as coaches that I grew up playing youth league b-ball against. The other was Capel. I used to shut Joel down!appstate24 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:22 pmEthan Joyce released 10 names of *potential* candidates, or people he thinks we should call. Well 9, and our beloved Matt McMahon (who we all want, but also know he ain’t coming). Most of these names have been mentioned here.
1. Tim Craft (G-W)
2. Bart Lundy (Queens)
3. Kevin McGeehan (Campbell)
4. Levels Moton (NCCU)
5. Josh Schertz (LMU)
6. Nate James (Duke Asst.)
7. Joel Justus (UK Asst.)
8. Takayo Siddle (NCSU Asst.)
9. Bobby Lutz
10. Matt McMahon
Not a fan of McGeehan
Not yet convinced by Moton or Craft, but good potential.
Matt is obvious 1st choice, but Mr. Cobb blew that one.
My top choices would be Schertz or Lundy. Nate James would be great, but I really think we need a coach with HC experience.
Dont know anything about Justus or Siddle, but I think this is a promising list. GO APPS!!
Here is the link to the fall sports streaming schedule.
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Re: Fox fired
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Re: Fox fired
Interesting , one heck of a turnaround job.NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:06 pmhttps://swarthmoreathletics.com/staff.aspx?staff=22
Seems to be a teacher of the game. That would be a nice change over the past 19 years. Also, see below:
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Re: Fox fired
And sustained the success after he got them there. One knock against him is that he's a former Davidson assistant.Stonewall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:20 pmInteresting , one heck of a turnaround job.NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:06 pmhttps://swarthmoreathletics.com/staff.aspx?staff=22
Seems to be a teacher of the game. That would be a nice change over the past 19 years. Also, see below:
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2013-14 Swarthmore 8-17 .320
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Re: Fox fired
Definitely NOT a fan of Buzz Peterson because of where he played in college and the fact that he screwed us over. I will say, however, that we had some of our best years under him. Wonder how much more our program could have grown if he had stayed around for 5 - 10 years. Hopefully we can land a new HC that has equal or better abilities. As far as him ever coaching here again, that would be a huge NO! He would not come back to Boone anyway so that is a moot point.
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The more names I see, the more I think I prefer someone from the "former HC who's won at a mid-major before getting fired from a power school" pool. I'll include Lutz in that even though he doesn't technically fit the description.
It's true there are plenty of good assistants and D2 coaches out there. But if it were that easy to pick the ones who can succeed as a D1 HC, everyone would do it. I just feel like a lower-risk hire might be the way to go after so many years of futility.
It's true there are plenty of good assistants and D2 coaches out there. But if it were that easy to pick the ones who can succeed as a D1 HC, everyone would do it. I just feel like a lower-risk hire might be the way to go after so many years of futility.
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Re: Fox fired
Just seems pretty silly to not hire a guy because he has Davidson on the resume. We’re in no position to shrink the applicant pool over something so trivial.
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Kevin Stallings, Kim Anderson, Seth Greenberg, Mark Fox. Those are four who would appear to fit (or come close to fitting) the criteria you mention. I actually feel one of them is being seriously considered for the job given Gillen's background.EastHallApp wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:05 pmThe more names I see, the more I think I prefer someone from the "former HC who's won at a mid-major before getting fired from a power school" pool. I'll include Lutz in that even though he doesn't technically fit the description.
It's true there are plenty of good assistants and D2 coaches out there. But if it were that easy to pick the ones who can succeed as a D1 HC, everyone would do it. I just feel like a lower-risk hire might be the way to go after so many years of futility.
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I wouldn't say Anderson fits (and if I'm reading you right, maybe he's the one you think we're considering?). Failed spectacularly in his only D1 opportunity.Arsenal App wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:17 pmKevin Stallings, Kim Anderson, Seth Greenberg, Mark Fox. Those are four who would appear to fit (or come close to fitting) the criteria you mention. I actually feel one of them is being seriously considered for the job given Gillen's background.EastHallApp wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:05 pmThe more names I see, the more I think I prefer someone from the "former HC who's won at a mid-major before getting fired from a power school" pool. I'll include Lutz in that even though he doesn't technically fit the description.
It's true there are plenty of good assistants and D2 coaches out there. But if it were that easy to pick the ones who can succeed as a D1 HC, everyone would do it. I just feel like a lower-risk hire might be the way to go after so many years of futility.
The others, yes. I'd personally have varying levels of interest in them. Greenberg seems like a longshot - I'd guess he's enjoying the high-pay/low-pressure ESPN life, and if he wanted to coach again, he could probably have landed a moderately more prominent gig than ours by now. But I don't know for sure.
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When did you play against Capel? I played against him my senior year when he was an 8th grader playing on the Greensboro Day varsity. Ah the good old days in the NCISAA.
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Elon just canned Matheny after 10 yrs with a 150-170 recordNattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:23 pmAnd sustained the success after he got them there. One knock against him is that he's a former Davidson assistant.Stonewall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:20 pmInteresting , one heck of a turnaround job.NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:06 pmhttps://swarthmoreathletics.com/staff.aspx?staff=22
Seems to be a teacher of the game. That would be a nice change over the past 19 years. Also, see below:
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2013-14 Swarthmore 8-17 .320
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FWIW, a lot of the Tech folks I know were not Greenberg fans. I heard him this morning on Sirius talking about how much he loves what he is doing now. Though there was a sense that on one level he misses coaching.EastHallApp wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:24 pmI wouldn't say Anderson fits (and if I'm reading you right, maybe he's the one you think we're considering?). Failed spectacularly in his only D1 opportunity.Arsenal App wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:17 pmKevin Stallings, Kim Anderson, Seth Greenberg, Mark Fox. Those are four who would appear to fit (or come close to fitting) the criteria you mention. I actually feel one of them is being seriously considered for the job given Gillen's background.EastHallApp wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:05 pmThe more names I see, the more I think I prefer someone from the "former HC who's won at a mid-major before getting fired from a power school" pool. I'll include Lutz in that even though he doesn't technically fit the description.
It's true there are plenty of good assistants and D2 coaches out there. But if it were that easy to pick the ones who can succeed as a D1 HC, everyone would do it. I just feel like a lower-risk hire might be the way to go after so many years of futility.
The others, yes. I'd personally have varying levels of interest in them. Greenberg seems like a longshot - I'd guess he's enjoying the high-pay/low-pressure ESPN life, and if he wanted to coach again, he could probably have landed a moderately more prominent gig than ours by now. But I don't know for sure.
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Greenberg would be awesome, he was a good, not great coach, but he's well known due to his commentating with Jay Williams and Bilbo, and would probably bring in solid talent comparable to the SunBelt. That being said, he ain't coming here.
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Alright! Seems that the feeling is mutual, App fans. It has been confirmed that App would never offer and Buzz could never accept and remain married. App wins-Buzz loses!
As Jan Peterson would say, "I would go anywhere and do almost anything...ANYTHING...for attention, fortune and fame but I won't reside in that freakin' backwoods Boone town ever again!"
This "arrogance" is the latest from Mrs. Peterson, the *Mars Hill, NC* native.
If it happens to the Apps, it happens to me!
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This is what I want....I want a long term "clean" coach that makes athletes be students. If we get a failed p5 but great g5 or d2 coach on his way up. We will not have to worry about someone poaching him if he turns our program around.EastHallApp wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:05 pmThe more names I see, the more I think I prefer someone from the "former HC who's won at a mid-major before getting fired from a power school" pool. I'll include Lutz in that even though he doesn't technically fit the description.
It's true there are plenty of good assistants and D2 coaches out there. But if it were that easy to pick the ones who can succeed as a D1 HC, everyone would do it. I just feel like a lower-risk hire might be the way to go after so many years of futility.
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I feel certain Seth Greenberg has turned down better opportunities and more money than we could offer. Like most former coaches, it takes a GREAT offer to leave the comfort of the ESPN booth to go back in the floor.Arsenal App wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:17 pmKevin Stallings, Kim Anderson, Seth Greenberg, Mark Fox. Those are four who would appear to fit (or come close to fitting) the criteria you mention. I actually feel one of them is being seriously considered for the job given Gillen's background.EastHallApp wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:05 pmThe more names I see, the more I think I prefer someone from the "former HC who's won at a mid-major before getting fired from a power school" pool. I'll include Lutz in that even though he doesn't technically fit the description.
It's true there are plenty of good assistants and D2 coaches out there. But if it were that easy to pick the ones who can succeed as a D1 HC, everyone would do it. I just feel like a lower-risk hire might be the way to go after so many years of futility.