Top 25 Watch (real thread)

[appstatealum]

AppStfan1 is right, it’s more beneficial for the SMUs, Memphis, Boise’s to lose in a few more weeks than now. Our next big step would be to burst ULLs little bubble high they are on and crush them by 20 points or so. Most likely, that would do the trick in propelling us to the top 25.

[EastHallApp]

For NY6 purposes, it matters little if any when a team loses; they use the “body of work” approach.

More to the point, it’s not like losing this week would make a team less likely to lose later. We need them to lose whenever they can. Multiple times, preferably. The more the MWC and AAC teams beat up on one another, the better.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

I am predicting we get “ranked” at 27 after this weekend

[appgrad95&97]

Why does anyone expect us to pickup more than a handful of points in today's poll? I hope I'm wrong, but 60 points would a surprise to me. And with there only loss to Ohio St., Cincinnati makes a good case for the top 25.

[AtlAppMan]

If we want a NY6 slot we know we have to run the table. Therefore 1-0 every week or that possibility is gone for this year. That is not unlike many teams chasing old AP national championship years ago. But that alone does not guarantee a slot as we are also dependent on other teams performances. It does help us when they lose so don’t say it does not help us. Also the way rankings work, the sooner you get ranked the higher you typically can go throughout season as you are in spotlight and typically the higher you end up at the end of the season.

Therefore it does matter to get in as early as possible and then we do have to take care of our business or it all falls apart.

[AppStFan1]

Coaches Poll with results from yesterday

RK Team REC PTS Results
1 Alabama(29) (5-0) 1562 Bye
2 Clemson(30) (5-0) 1526 Bye
3 Georgia(1) (5-0) 1446 43-14 W @ Tennessee
4 Oklahoma (5-0) 1373 45-20 W at Kansas
5 Ohio State(4) (6-0) 1362 34-10 W vs Michigan State
6 LSU (5-0) 1349 42-6 W vs Utah State
7 Auburn (5-1) 1198 24-13 L at Florida
8 Florida (6-0) 1100 24-13 W vs Auburn
9 Wisconsin (5-0) 1097 40-0 W vs Kent State
10 Notre Dame (4-1) 987 52-0 W vs Bowling Green
11 Penn State (5-0) 978 35-7 W vs Purdue
12 Texas (4-1) 912 42-31 W at West Virginia
13 Oregon (4-1) 813 17-7 W vs California
14 Iowa (4-1) 790 10-3 L at Michigan
15 Boise State (5-0) 621 38-13 W at UNLV
16 Washington (4-2) 608 23-13 L at Stanford
17 Utah (4-1) 532 Bye
18 Michigan (4-1) 417 10-3 W vs Iowa
19 UCF (4-2) 308 27-24 L at Cincinnati
20 Wake Forest (5-0) 279 Bye
21 Texas A&M (3-2) 251 Bye
22 Virginia (4-1) 202 Bye
23 Memphis (5-0) 167 51-33 W at UL Monroe
Michigan State (4-2) 167 34-10 L at Ohio State
25 Oklahoma State (4-2) 158 45-35 L at Texas Tech
26 California (4-2) 125 17-7 L at Oregon
27 SMU (6-0) 118 43-37 W in 3OT vs Tulsa
28 Arizona State (4-1) 96 Bye
29 Army (3-2) 47 42-33 L vs Tulane
30 Minnesota (5-0) 34 40-17 W vs Illinois
31 Baylor (5-0) 34 31-12 W at Kansas State
32 Appalachian State (4-0) 28 Bye
33 Utah State (3-2) 15 43-6 L at LSU
34 Kansas State (3-2) 13 31-12 L vs Baylor
35 Hawaii (4-1) 10 Bye
36 USC (3-2) 9 Bye
37 TCU (3-2) 6 49-24 L at Iowa State
38 Mississippi State (3-2) 3 Bye
39 Air Force (3-2) 3 34-25 L at Navy
40 Washington State (3-2) 3 Bye
41 Wyoming (4-1) 2 Bye

Noteworthy
Texas Tech (3-2) 45-35 W vs Oklahoma State
Cincinnati (4-1) 27-24 W vs Central Florida
Arizona (4-1) 35-30 W at Colorado
Missouri (4-1) 42-10 W vs Troy

[AppStFan1]

AP Poll with results from yesterday

RK Team REC PTS Results
1 Alabama(29) (5-0) 1478 Bye
2 Clemson(18) (5-0) 1426 Bye
3 Georgia(4) (5-0) 1375 43-14 W @ Tennessee
4 Ohio State (7) (6-0) 1324 34-10 W vs Michigan State
5 LSU (5-0) 1322 42-6 W vs Utah State
6 Oklahoma (5-0) 1264 45-20 W at Kansas
7 Auburn (5-1) 1186 24-13 L at Florida
8 Wisconsin (5-0) 1046 40-0 W vs Kent State
9 Notre Dame (4-1) 996 52-0 W vs Bowling Green
10 Florida (6-0) 986 24-13 W vs Auburn
11 Texas (4-1) 919 42-31 W at West Virginia
12 Penn State (5-0) 878 35-7 W vs Purdue
13 Oregon (4-1) 817 17-7 W vs California
14 Iowa (4-1) 731 10-3 L at Michigan
15 Washington (4-2) 603 23-13 L at Stanford
16 Boise State (5-0) 559 38-13 W at UNLV
17 Utah (4-1) 534 Bye
18 UCF (4-2) 352 27-24 L at Cincinnati
19 Michigan (4-1) 350 10-3 W vs Iowa
20 Arizona State (4-1) 249 Bye
21 Oklahoma State (4-2) 215 45-35 L at Texas Tech
22 Wake Forest (5-0) 190 Bye
23 Virginia (4-1) 186 Bye
24 SMU (6-0) 151 43-37 W in 3OT vs Tulsa
25T Texas A&M (3-2) 147 Bye
25T Michigan State (4-2) 147 34-10 L at Ohio State
27 California (4-2) 141 17-7 L at Oregon
28 Memphis (5-0) 71 51-33 W at UL Monroe
29 Appalachian State (4-0) 50 Bye
30 Army (3-2) 44 42-33 L vs Tulane
31 Missouri (4-1) 26 42-10 W vs Troy
32T Baylor (5-0) 19 31-12 W at Kansas State
32T Colorado (3-2) 19 35-30 L vs Arizona
34 Minnesota (5-0) 15 40-17 W vs Illinois
35 USC (3-2) 7 Bye
36 Kansas State (3-2) 1 31-12 L vs Baylor
37 Tulane (4-1) 1 42-33 W at Army

Noteworthy
Texas Tech (3-2) 45-35 W vs Oklahoma State
Cincinnati (4-1) 27-24 W vs Central Florida
Arizona (4-1) 35-30 W at Colorado

[EastHallApp]

Hey AppStFan1, as much as I appreciate your sudden surge in enthusiasm for this topic, those multiple posts of both entire top 25 polls are a killer to scroll through, esp. on mobile.

If everyone else loves them, nm and I’ll suck it up.

[EastHallApp]

Why does anyone expect us to pickup more than a handful of points in today's poll? I hope I'm wrong, but 60 points would a surprise to me. And with there only loss to Ohio St., Cincinnati makes a good case for the top 25.

Because 4-5 teams within striking distance ahead of us lost, and while some teams behind us had nice wins, none of them were the sort that just force everyone to move them way up.

We won’t be the only team that gains ground and we may get jumped by a team or two, but I expect we’ll get a decent increase.

[JMappfan5]

I could see us anywhere from 26-28. Beat UL and we are definitely in!

[APPdiesel]

I'm more in the "it'll happen when it happens" camp, but the biggest reason getting in early matters is it forces voters who otherwise wouldn't pay attention to us (midwestern voters, west coast voters, and basically any voters who have ignored us so far) to put eyes on us. It's easy to gloss over the 4th place team in ORV but it's hard to ignore #25.

[ah59396]

I'm more in the "it'll happen when it happens" camp, but the biggest reason getting in early matters is it forces voters who otherwise wouldn't pay attention to us (midwestern voters, west coast voters, and basically any voters who have ignored us so far) to put eyes on us. It's easy to gloss over the 4th place team in ORV but it's hard to ignore #25.

Perception is reality. When we cracked top 25 last year almost every one of our peers had a topic on their message board about us. I know that’s a weird barometer but it goes to show that people pay attention to it.

The number, while completely arbitrary, carries a ton of weight. It also puts a big target on our back haha.

[AppStFan1]

I'm more in the "it'll happen when it happens" camp, but the biggest reason getting in early matters is it forces voters who otherwise wouldn't pay attention to us (midwestern voters, west coast voters, and basically any voters who have ignored us so far) to put eyes on us. It's easy to gloss over the 4th place team in ORV but it's hard to ignore #25.

Perception is reality. When we cracked top 25 last year almost every one of our peers had a topic on their message board about us. I know that’s a weird barometer but it goes to show that people pay attention to it.

The number, while completely arbitrary, carries a ton of weight. It also puts a big target on our back haha.

I don't mind avoiding the target for a little while until it looks like our defense is catching up and we are hitting on all cylinders. It does carry a lot of weight but again like someone else said, it will happen when it happens. No reason to stress. We keep winning and it will happen.

[sixtoes9134]

Any G5 not named Boise St. or UCF can't sustain a loss and remain in the top 25, which is ridiculous. That said we have 49 voting points in the Coaches Poll. "28th"

[AppStFan1]

Here is the coaches poll with results

RK Team REC PTS Results
1 Alabama (42) (5-0) 1602 Bye
2 Clemson (20) (5-0) 1531 Bye
3 Georgia (5-0) 1459 43-14 W @ Tennessee
4 Ohio State (3) (6-0) 1422 34-10 W vs Michigan State
5 Oklahoma (5-0) 1378 45-20 W at Kansas
6 LSU (5-0) 1364 42-6 W vs Utah State
7 Florida (6-0) 1218 24-13 W vs Auburn
8 Wisconsin (5-0) 1164 40-0 W vs Kent State
9 Penn State (5-0) 1051 35-7 W vs Purdue
10 Notre Dame (4-1) 1033 52-0 W vs Bowling Green
11 Texas (4-1) 971 42-31 W at West Virginia
12 Auburn (5-1) 929 24-13 L at Florida
13 Oregon (4-1) 866 17-7 W vs California
14 Boise State (5-0) 732 38-13 W at UNLV
15 Utah (4-1) 655 Bye
16 Michigan (4-1) 648 10-3 W vs Iowa
17 Wake Forest (5-0) 498 Bye
18 Iowa (4-1) 441 10-3 L at Michigan
19 Virginia (4-1) 345 Bye
20 Memphis (5-0) 318 51-33 W at UL Monroe
21 Texas A&M (3-2) 306 Bye
22 SMU (6-0) 246 43-37 W in 3OT vs Tulsa
23 Baylor (5-0) 234 31-12 W at Kansas State
24 Arizona State (4-1) 228 Bye
25 Minnesota (5-0) 131 40-17 W vs Illinois
26 Cincinnati (4-1) 74 27-24 W vs Central Florida
27 Washington (4-2) 72 23-13 L at Stanford
28 Appalachian State (4-0) 49 Bye
29 Michigan State (4-2) 41 34-10 L at Ohio State
30 Tulane (4-1) 36 42-33 W at Army
31 California (4-2) 17 17-7 L at Oregon
32T Hawaii (4-1) 13 Bye
32T Arizona (4-1) 13 35-30 W at Colorado
34 UCF (4-2) 11 27-24 L at Cincinnati
35 Washington State (3-2) 9 Bye
36 Navy (3-1) 8 34-25 W at Air Force
37 TCU (3-2) 5 49-24 L at Iowa State
38 Mississippi State (3-2) 3 Bye
39 San Diego State (4-1) 2 24-10 W at Colorado State
40T Temple (4-1) 1 27-17 W at East Carolina
40T Army (3-2) 1 42-33 L vs Tulane

[AppStFan1]

Hey AppStFan1, as much as I appreciate your sudden surge in enthusiasm for this topic, those multiple posts of both entire top 25 polls are a killer to scroll through, esp. on mobile.

If everyone else loves them, nm and I’ll suck it up.

No sudden interest. Just decided to show these so folks can see what it takes. Teams are moving past us because they have an impressive win.

The only exception is that the MWC and AAC clearly as a whole are getting much more respect from voters.

We just have to win. Everyone is focusing so much on this but all those teams will play each other and eliminate one another. All this worrying by some of our fans is pointless now because in about 4 weeks from now 90% of this stuff will have worked itself out. We have to go undefeated and really need to beat everyone outside of South Carolina by double digits or there is no reason to expect a big jump in points. We need new voters and the only way to get a lot of new voters is to win big. Those who have voted us already won't bump us up much more regardless of what we do. We are 20-21 in some ballots. We need everyone to have us in their 23-25 range at minimum and then a few in the 17-21 range and then we will safely be ranked.

[AppStFan1]

Any G5 not named Boise St. or UCF can't sustain a loss and remain in the top 25, which is ridiculous. That said we have 49 voting points in the Coaches Poll. "28th"

Any AAC or MWC team who has just one loss come week 10 will be ranked. The only reason UCF was able to take a loss and still be ranked is that they were ranked so high. Boise State is now at that point and unless they take a blowout loss to a team who is not receiving votes they will need 2 losses to drop out.

[appgrad95&97]

Why does anyone expect us to pickup more than a handful of points in today's poll? I hope I'm wrong, but 60 points would a surprise to me. And with there only loss to Ohio St., Cincinnati makes a good case for the top 25.

Because 4-5 teams within striking distance ahead of us lost, and while some teams behind us had nice wins, none of them were the sort that just force everyone to move them way up.

We won’t be the only team that gains ground and we may get jumped by a team or two, but I expect we’ll get a decent increase.

Looks like we lost a point and got jumped by Cincinnati.

[appgrad95&97]

^^^
I looked at the wrong poll.

[ah59396]

Moved up 4 spots in coaches. Lets see if the same happens in the AP...