No tailgate spots for students this season

[AppSt94]

Popcorn and ice cream snickers!

True for sure on the popcorn. Not sure on the ice cream. Soda is $5.00 though.

Ice cream was free from time to time....

That’s good to know. I honestly never paid attention to it being available.

If I remember correctly, it Snickers ice cream bars... tasty

And Twix.

[AppState89]

And, if they did any kind of clean up after their tailgate, this may not have happened... It costs more to clean the student half of peacock and the student section in the stadium than it does to clean every other tailgate lot and section in the stadium combined...

All day this. Last year was atrocious, and it's gotten out of control, to the point of pure obnoxiousness.

Several years ago about 4 spots in Duncan were given to students. It looked like a damn bomb went off. There were at least 100 smashed beer cans on the ground by their 4 spots. Several in our group told them to clean up their mess as nobody in that lot leaves it like a building was blown up. They got really smartass with us. Guess the beer in those 100+ cans was talking.

[appgrad95&97]

The day will come when we miss students going to games.

[8993]

There is a pretty strange dynamic here and it has me feeling pretty torn.

On one hand, if the students aren't taking care of what options they have, then those options are not always promised or guaranteed. I'm of the belief that you should always leave something better than you found it, even in when you've had one too many to drink. There's always someone sober enough around you to make sure things are handled and that a mess isn't left for the next crew to clean up.

On the other hand, we've all been there. We've all been college students who had one too many. To sit here on a high horse, act like we're better than them now because we have enough disposable income to donate to the Yosef Club, and say that we deserve precious real estate on game day more than them is asinine. Let's be clear: KBS is one of the most difficult places for visiting teams to play because of the students, not because of the Yosef Club members who are sit through the entire game and only cheer when they're reminded to. It's not fair for us to say that this isn't a big deal when we didn't have to deal with it ourselves. We had the spots during our time at Appalachian, but there could soon be a graduating class who can't say the same.

Additionally, we ARE raising the next generation of Yosef Club donors, whether we like it or not. These kids are graduating in thousands of dollars of debt. They can't just work their way through college like you could in 1972. We are VYING for their disposable income that is not anywhere close to us. Turning the other cheek now and saying, "Welcome to the real world" just isn't going to cut it. We have to stop conflating our own experiences to theirs. We live in different times. Hell, I graduated in '16 and can even say that.

As a collective, let's empathize with how these kids are going to deal with this pretty major change that none of us had to endure rather than judging them for the trash they left in the lot or the money they may have to give one day.

[Tru2ASU]

I'll just say that quite a few things will probably be seeing changes over the years, that many have been accustomed to. The security of buildings and facilities is crucial, in the long term, as we have discussed the financial side of this before.

Also, appearance does play a big issue, especially with a whole summer full of tours now. For example, take graffiti in the tunnel area. No biggie. But as it starts to slide from the tunnel and and in around Varsity and Rankin, with Duncan getting ready to get renovated, is that something that is owed to students as a rite of passage?

Also, I will say, one or two fraternities had people stay behind and pick up their area. But I really wish I could attach pictures from throughout last years games that I took, jawdropping to say the least. I'm pretty sure the destruction of campus isn't included in tuition.

[BambooRdApp]

Did not want a new thread...maybe we are upping our team entrance game

https://www.facebook.com/10005400038615 ... tid=9R9pXO

[AppStateNews]

Did not want a new thread...maybe we are upping our team entrance game

https://www.facebook.com/10005400038615 ... tid=9R9pXO

God I hope so. It's about time.

[bcoach]

There is a pretty strange dynamic here and it has me feeling pretty torn.

On one hand, if the students aren't taking care of what options they have, then those options are not always promised or guaranteed. I'm of the belief that you should always leave something better than you found it, even in when you've had one too many to drink. There's always someone sober enough around you to make sure things are handled and that a mess isn't left for the next crew to clean up.

On the other hand, we've all been there. We've all been college students who had one too many. To sit here on a high horse, act like we're better than them now because we have enough disposable income to donate to the Yosef Club, and say that we deserve precious real estate on game day more than them is asinine. Let's be clear: KBS is one of the most difficult places for visiting teams to play because of the students, not because of the Yosef Club members who are sit through the entire game and only cheer when they're reminded to. It's not fair for us to say that this isn't a big deal when we didn't have to deal with it ourselves. We had the spots during our time at Appalachian, but there could soon be a graduating class who can't say the same.

Additionally, we ARE raising the next generation of Yosef Club donors, whether we like it or not. These kids are graduating in thousands of dollars of debt. They can't just work their way through college like you could in 1972. We are VYING for their disposable income that is not anywhere close to us. Turning the other cheek now and saying, "Welcome to the real world" just isn't going to cut it. We have to stop conflating our own experiences to theirs. We live in different times. Hell, I graduated in '16 and can even say that.

As a collective, let's empathize with how these kids are going to deal with this pretty major change that none of us had to endure rather than judging them for the trash they left in the lot or the money they may have to give one day.

'of the Yosef Club members who are sit through the entire game and only cheer when they're reminded to.
What a stupid statement. You need to grow up son.

[8993]

There is a pretty strange dynamic here and it has me feeling pretty torn.

On one hand, if the students aren't taking care of what options they have, then those options are not always promised or guaranteed. I'm of the belief that you should always leave something better than you found it, even in when you've had one too many to drink. There's always someone sober enough around you to make sure things are handled and that a mess isn't left for the next crew to clean up.

On the other hand, we've all been there. We've all been college students who had one too many. To sit here on a high horse, act like we're better than them now because we have enough disposable income to donate to the Yosef Club, and say that we deserve precious real estate on game day more than them is asinine. Let's be clear: KBS is one of the most difficult places for visiting teams to play because of the students, not because of the Yosef Club members who are sit through the entire game and only cheer when they're reminded to. It's not fair for us to say that this isn't a big deal when we didn't have to deal with it ourselves. We had the spots during our time at Appalachian, but there could soon be a graduating class who can't say the same.

Additionally, we ARE raising the next generation of Yosef Club donors, whether we like it or not. These kids are graduating in thousands of dollars of debt. They can't just work their way through college like you could in 1972. We are VYING for their disposable income that is not anywhere close to us. Turning the other cheek now and saying, "Welcome to the real world" just isn't going to cut it. We have to stop conflating our own experiences to theirs. We live in different times. Hell, I graduated in '16 and can even say that.

As a collective, let's empathize with how these kids are going to deal with this pretty major change that none of us had to endure rather than judging them for the trash they left in the lot or the money they may have to give one day.

'of the Yosef Club members who are sit through the entire game and only cheer when they're reminded to.
What a stupid statement. You need to grow up son.

I will when you do, son.

[appst89]

It may have been the right decision, but yet again, it was poorly communicated and it ends up as a very bad look. That is a common theme in recent years. With the way it got out, there is now no way to make this anything but a net negative.

[Tru2ASU]

Seems like they are finding out a month in advance, after hearing about the possibilities for 2 plus years. And they are looking at alternatives. How is this considered poorly communicated?

[AppinVA]

Bad news is usually seen as being poorly communicated by those who are on the receiving end of the bad news.

[/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09]

Seems like they are finding out a month in advance, after hearing about the possibilities for 2 plus years. And they are looking at alternatives. How is this considered poorly communicated?

I will admit, I'm on a break from social media so forgive me if something was posted on one of those platforms, but outside of seeing the news on here I've not seen or heard anything from the athletic department of these changes.

I believe AppStateNews said the news came from someone internally that should have kept their mouth shut, but still a follow up of confirmation, with maybe a "We're working on alternatives" from the athletic department would be nice. And again I didn't search hardcore to see if such a statement existed.

If there has been no chatter directly from those that ultimately made this decision, then that's poor communication. Regardless of the advanced possibility notice.

[appst89]

Bad news is usually seen as being poorly communicated by those who are on the receiving end of the bad news.

I have no dog in the fight.

It can be the best, most right decision ever; and I have no problem with the decision as the student lots often looked like garbage dumps; but if you lose the PR battle, it's a loss. This is a loss.

[Tru2ASU]

How is it a loss? Will students stop coming to football games? Will they not find other areas on campus to pre-game? Will this all the sudden lead to a decline in enrollment? Will App State not turn into a destination school, like it wants, because student pre-gaming in the parking lots will take a 2-3 year break, due to 350+ million dollars in construction coming to campus? I can't really follow that...

[ArmantiWaterSafety]

I know I tailgated during some of the worst "modern" years of App 10-14, but I'm thinking back to when I tailgated with my group in Raley and I don't remember it being trashed at all. In fact, the only thing people left seemed to be grills.

Do we still have people in that lot walking around with trash and recycling bags and saying put it in the bag and leave it and we'll get it? I get hammered people not making it to a long-distance dumpster but even hammered people can usually throw a can in a bag at their spot.

[Tru2ASU]

I know I tailgated during some of the worst "modern" years of App 10-14, but I'm thinking back to when I tailgated with my group in Raley and I don't remember it being trashed at all. In fact, the only thing people left seemed to be grills.

Do we still have people in that lot walking around with trash and recycling bags and saying put it in the bag and leave it and we'll get it? I get hammered people not making it to a long-distance dumpster but even hammered people can usually throw a can in a bag at their spot.

Yes, they rarely get used, especially when it rains, they just turn into ponchos.

[BoonBandit2006]

Has there been any update or resolve on this situation?

[AppKing21]

I think most people upset right now are only upset for one reason. They think "App State Tailgate" isn't a fan account, but rather an official part of the University. I'd wait to see if the athletic department makes a statement regarding tailgating, then grab pitchforks.

[311neers]

I think most people upset right now are only upset for one reason. They think "App State Tailgate" isn't a fan account, but rather an official part of the University. I'd wait to see if the athletic department makes a statement regarding tailgating, then grab pitchforks.

I’m not certain it’s the Athletic Departments issue. Seems like a University decision to me. But regardless, wait for a statement to get all angry. We jump to conclusions way too early in America without knowing the facts.