ECU vs APP

[TheMoody1]

I am saying that ECU on the schedule for 4 years, no matter what incarnation of scheduling, is more appealing to our fans than home and homes with Wyoming, Akron, UNCC, ODU, or UMASS.

I get a lot of what you are saying, but would you really be happier with four games @ ECU over the other home and homes?

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

I think for recruiting as some have mentioned, it will be huge. Not just for having a game in Charlotte, but for playing twice out in podunk land and getting more exposure on the east coast. That we will have a game in an NFL stadium is somewhat significant, too and should be considered a milestone, similar to the excitement that Miami coming to Boone provides. I think it is great that we would get ECU scheduled for 4 games and it is a good compromise. They weren't going to agree to a single home and home series, even if they're perception of themselves is greatly flawed. That we get them once in Boone and have 2 commutable away games is huge. Charlotte is a huge App hub and the Triangle has a lot of App fans that would make the trip to both Charlotte and podunk land. The only concern I have is how they will price out the tickets in Charlotte. They overreached on the UNC USC game last year with pricing.

[appst89]

I am saying we should not take an uneven deal with another G5 school, especially when they have done even deals with other G5 schools. That's it. All those other words are yours, not mine.

[MtnMan09]

I am saying that ECU on the schedule for 4 years, no matter what incarnation of scheduling, is more appealing to our fans than home and homes with Wyoming, Akron, UNCC, ODU, or UMASS.

I get a lot of what you are saying, but would you really be happier with four games @ ECU over the other home and homes?

Yeah been on this board too long, I should have chosen my words more carefully. The deal as proposed vs. a home and home or nothing is what I meant. I agree with you, I don't think we should give them a 4 game road series or a 3 for 1. But I have to say I wouldn't necessarily be against going back to G-ville for a one-off to play them. I think we are better situated to compete now than ever before and I think a win anywhere against them helps in-state recruiting.

[MtnMan09]

I am saying we should not take an uneven deal with another G5 school, especially when they have done even deals with other G5 schools. That's it. All those other words are yours, not mine.

I understand the words were mine. But I was seeking was clarification on your reasoning as to why we shouldn't take an uneven deal with ECU, not just any and all G5 programs.

[appst89]

I am saying we should not take an uneven deal with another G5 school, especially when they have done even deals with other G5 schools. That's it. All those other words are yours, not mine.

I understand the words were mine. But I was seeking was clarification on your reasoning as to why we shouldn't take an uneven deal with ECU, not just any and all G5 programs.

Because it hasn't been done before and it would set a very bad precedent. Because ECU has already done even deals with other G5 schools.

[EastHallApp]

Youre telling me that instead of taking a FOUR year series with ECU (App-ECU-Neutral-ECU) you think a home and home with UMASS, Wyoming, or Akron is more appealing?

Very tough to argue with that IMO.

As far as setting a negative precedent, I'm not sure how much truth there is to that. But really, it's only a precedent if we allow it to be. Situations change. We won't be in the same position two, three, four years from now. We'll be more established and hopefully more prominent and successful.

[AtlAppMan]

If we do a deal with ECU that is 2-1-1 that will not set a precedent. Why? That is like saying now that Miami comes to Boone they will never be able to do a different deal in the future. Each deal stands on its own.

[JTApps1]

I just don't see playing a game in Charlotte instead of Boone as some terrible sacrifice especially if we have 6 home games. We will likely have more App fans in Charlotte than we would in Boone for the home game.

[appst89]

I just don't see playing a game in Charlotte instead of Boone as some terrible sacrifice especially if we have 6 home games. We will likely have more App fans in Charlotte than we would in Boone for the home game.

The neutral site game is fine. Just do 1-1-1.

[bigCasu]

Just this week, ECU issued a BIG XII statement. This speaks to how they regard themselves in the landscape of scheduling. Is a 2-1-1 perfect? Naw, but we have 4 chances to beat them twice and make some noise. If we were to bear them in CLT, it would go much further (media wise) than beating them in Greenville or Boone.


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Listened to several experts all last week on Sirius/XM College Sports channel and never heard ECU mentioned once as a legitimate candidate for the Big 12.

We should not take a deal that subordinates us to them in any way.

I am waiting and will be patient once we find out the structure of a deal. It's possible that playing in CLT was all our idea and we wanted to allow as many fans as possible a chance to see the game. At this point, that's not possible in Boone.

[appfanjj]

I would like a 1-1-1 deal better but I am OK with what we did. You have to put your trust in your AD and he is doing a great job. There may be reasons we don't know about yet as to why the series was scheduled this way. Great that we are playing an in state rival with minimal travel costs to the schools and fans. Get behind it please. No whining. GO APP!

[APPdiesel]

I would like a 1-1-1 deal better but I am OK with what we did. You have to put your trust in your AD and he is doing a great job. There may be reasons we don't know about yet as to why the series was scheduled this way. Great that we are playing an in state rival with minimal travel costs to the schools and fans. Get behind it please. No whining. GO APP!

There is no "what we did" yet. This entire 12 page thread is still based on a rumor...no one has any idea what the terms are.

(If it is what we think it is) one lopsided deal does not set set a precedent. If that were the case the true H&H series with Wake, Marshall, ODU, Miami, Akron and Southern Miss would *GASP FOR DRAMATIC EFFECT* magically disallow us from scheduling a 2-1-1 with ECU. So see, that argument doesn't hold water.

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[Appsolutely]

Which really means more...having a G5 beside your name, or selling thousands more season tickets, raising millions more athletic dollars and having a stadium which can seat twice as many fans? Some of our fans need to do a reality check. ECU has a 40-year head start on us, and that advantage can't just be erased overnight. We'll get there, but it won't happen because we play in a G5 conference. If you want to be pissed off about the situation, direct it towards the leadership in Boone in 1975 who failed to see the possibilities...the ones who didn't listen when Pat Dye called Appalachian "the sleeping giant."

[appst89]

Which really means more...having a G5 beside your name, or selling thousands more season tickets, raising millions more athletic dollars and having a stadium which can seat twice as many fans? Some of our fans need to do a reality check. ECU has a 40-year head start on us, and that advantage can't just be erased overnight. We'll get there, but it won't happen because we play in a G5 conference.

We also won't get there by acting as if them giving us a lesser deal than they've already given other G5 programs, with less pedigree than we currently have, is somehow doing us a favor.

[Black Saturday]

Which really means more...having a G5 beside your name, or selling thousands more season tickets, raising millions more athletic dollars and having a stadium which can seat twice as many fans? Some of our fans need to do a reality check. ECU has a 40-year head start on us, and that advantage can't just be erased overnight. We'll get there, but it won't happen because we play in a G5 conference. If you want to be pissed off about the situation, direct it towards the leadership in Boone in 1975 who failed to see the possibilities...the ones who didn't listen when Pat Dye called Appalachian "the sleeping giant."

We beat ECU in 1974, both of us being members of the SoCon. APPs possibilities are just now becoming possible over the last decade. The best step was leaving the SoCon. The next best step will be graduating from the SunBelt.

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[AppDawg]

Easy solution. Make it a 3 yr series. 1 home, 1 away, 1 clt.

[APPRIDE]

There is no "what we did" yet. This entire 12 page thread is still based on a rumor...no one has any idea what the terms are.

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Well there are some goods points made in this thread.

(If only the App marketing department had "floated the rumor"about the white out, they could've gauged reaction and not been boxed in by their own spin after the fact)

As much an App homer as I am, and am proud of ALL aspects of what App Football has done over the years, I can also admit ECU Football has done a lot of scratching, clawing, hard work and won some big games in its time. The peach bowl 25 years ago is still one of the most exciting games I have ever been to...(and I have been to many of the App biggies over the last 30+years)...the whole damn state was down there...and that's what we could have a taste of playing them in Charlotte...

I have respect for ECU Football because their part of the state is passionate about them, they have a chip on their shoulder and they get 40,000+ on a regular basis. I want that for us, not just the 10 or 12,000 that really support App Football (as evidenced by only 3500 Yosef members and only 7500 season ticket holders and only 15,000 non students at most games???). What we need to do is play them and beat them. And beating them at their place can have its rewards also, as well as in Charlotte. I do think attendance at Charlotte would be about 40,000 for this game which to casual viewers it would appear the NFL stadium is mostly empty but to the 2 fan bases its the game that would be important.
So I would be ok with the 1-2-N scenario, as long as we are the home team and get the gate at BOA (unless the rent is so high we need for both schools to cover it).

[T-Dog]

When the Panthers worked out the deal to get BoA upgrades in effort to get a Super Bowl, the city of Charlotte got a certain number of free uses of the stadium a year. I don't know if that would apply here, but it would help.

Gillin needs to upfront about the financials of the BoA game if/when this is announced.

[WVAppsfan]

So this is a "trusted" source? So who is it? When can we hear the announcement for this proposed series?