App vs. Cornell

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Re: App vs. Cornell

Unread post by mtnjax » Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:22 pm

SD feed looks to be up and running smooth so far. Game 2 should be starting soon

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Re: App vs. Cornell

Unread post by TheMoody1 » Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:34 pm

mtnjax wrote:they're making the series free for the weekend because of the issue, so i would suggest taking advantage of that if it works

Paying customers get screwed out of the first game so they make the series free for the non-payers. Makes a lot of sense. :evil:

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Re: App vs. Cornell

Unread post by mtnjax » Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:37 pm

TheMoody1 wrote:
mtnjax wrote:they're making the series free for the weekend because of the issue, so i would suggest taking advantage of that if it works

Paying customers get screwed out of the first game so they make the series free for the non-payers. Makes a lot of sense. :evil:
I believe you can e-mail David Jackson about getting a refund. or at least their twitter feed said you can

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Anyone that wishes for a refund of today's game, please email jacksondm@appstate.edu and we will get it processed..sorry for the trouble
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Re: App vs. Cornell

Unread post by mtnjax » Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:52 pm

no score through 2 innings

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Re: App vs. Cornell

Unread post by mtnjax » Sat Mar 16, 2013 5:38 pm

Ugly 2nd game. 12-3 Cornell going into the 8th :shock:

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Re: App vs. Cornell

Unread post by AppDawg » Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:18 pm

mtnjax wrote:Ugly 2nd game. 12-3 Cornell going into the 8th :shock:
This is unacceptable! A loss to these guys is a HUGE at-large bid negative. Cornell is currently 291 out of 298 teams, and doesnt look to improve much over the course of their remaining schedule as their schedule largely consists of teams with RPI's greater than 160 and mostly over 200.

When are we going to bring 'Cello out of the closers role and plug him into a weekend starting spot? A closer doesn't do you any good if you can't get to the 8th or 9th with a lead!

Very frustrating!!!

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Re: App vs. Cornell

Unread post by Blackandgold » Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:22 pm

AppDawg wrote:
mtnjax wrote:Ugly 2nd game. 12-3 Cornell going into the 8th :shock:
This is unacceptable! A loss to these guys is a HUGE at-large bid negative. Cornell is currently 291 out of 298 teams, and doesnt look to improve much over the course of their remaining schedule as their schedule largely consists of teams with RPI's greater than 160 and mostly over 200.

When are we going to bring 'Cello out of the closers role and plug him into a weekend starting spot? A closer doesn't do you any good if you can't get to the 8th or 9th with a lead!

Very frustrating!!!

He's a completely different animal out of the pen. It suits him better. Look at his numbers last year as a starter

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Re: App vs. Cornell

Unread post by ViewCrew87 » Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:27 pm

AppDawg wrote:
mtnjax wrote:Ugly 2nd game. 12-3 Cornell going into the 8th :shock:
This is unacceptable! A loss to these guys is a HUGE at-large bid negative. Cornell is currently 291 out of 298 teams, and doesnt look to improve much over the course of their remaining schedule as their schedule largely consists of teams with RPI's greater than 160 and mostly over 200.

When are we going to bring 'Cello out of the closers role and plug him into a weekend starting spot? A closer doesn't do you any good if you can't get to the 8th or 9th with a lead!

Very frustrating!!!

We never had the lead. It's like we forgot there was a game 2 today. Very humbling for this young team.

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Re: App vs. Cornell

Unread post by cbarrier90 » Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:04 pm

AppDawg wrote:
mtnjax wrote:Ugly 2nd game. 12-3 Cornell going into the 8th :shock:
This is unacceptable! A loss to these guys is a HUGE at-large bid negative. Cornell is currently 291 out of 298 teams, and doesnt look to improve much over the course of their remaining schedule as their schedule largely consists of teams with RPI's greater than 160 and mostly over 200.

When are we going to bring 'Cello out of the closers role and plug him into a weekend starting spot? A closer doesn't do you any good if you can't get to the 8th or 9th with a lead!

Very frustrating!!!
As long as we take care of business in-conference, bad losses out of conference mean nothing.

This isn't basketball. The SoCon is actually a GOOD thing now! :lol:

How was the SD feed?

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Re: App vs. Cornell

Unread post by AppDawg » Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:14 pm

mtnjax wrote: He's a completely different animal out of the pen. It suits him better. Look at his numbers last year as a starter
I agree on paper he is better suited in a closers role. That said, he would be worth more value to the team as a starter.... The way this team has proven to be this yr, we are either up big late or down big. True save opportunities have been few and far between because our saturday and Sunday starters can't get out of the 4th inning without imploding - not to mention the Saturday Davidson game with a "true save" opportunity presented itself Jones did 't call on 'cello (head scratcher)...

Sure there are errors in the field here and there. Those are going to happen, but numerous walks, hit batsmen and wild pitches are squarely on the starting pitchers and are unaccaptable at the rate they are occurring. Its time to try something different. We need someone that can start a game and give us 6+ solid innings week to week, besides Nunn, to have a chance late in the season. Otherwise our 'pen is going to be overworked and we are going to have a late season fade. It is time to make an adjustment or its going to be a long season once we get to the meat of the SoCon schedule.

Imop, Wilson should be the Saturday starter - he had done great in long relief role. It shouldn't take him long to get stretched out as he has been throwing 4 innings each saturday. My other suggestion is let 'Cello reprise his Sunday starter role from last year. Put Sam and Springs in the 'pen. They have shown they can go a couple innings and be effective.

Jones has shown he has no qualms about moving around the position players and batting order - it is time to allocate some attention to the pitching rotation. Its painfully obvious our current rotation outside of Nunn "isn't working."

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Re: App vs. Cornell

Unread post by hapapp » Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:19 pm

This is a very talented team. It is also very young in many facets of the game. I think to judge this team by last year is unfair and likely to disappoint. Baseball can be a funny game. One game you tear the cover off the ball, the next you can't get it out of the infield. We currently seem to have only consistent starter. It's going to be difficult to get too far without some consistent performances from the staff.

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Re: App vs. Cornell

Unread post by AppDawg » Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:26 pm

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mtnjax wrote:Ugly 2nd game. 12-3 Cornell going into the 8th :shock:
This is unacceptable! A loss to these guys is a HUGE at-large bid negative. Cornell is currently 291 out of 298 teams, and doesnt look to improve much over the course of their remaining schedule as their schedule largely consists of teams with RPI's greater than 160 and mostly over 200.

When are we going to bring 'Cello out of the closers role and plug him into a weekend starting spot? A closer doesn't do you any good if you can't get to the 8th or 9th with a lead!

Very frustrating!!!
As long as we take care of business in-conference, bad losses out of conference mean nothing.

This isn't basketball. The SoCon is actually a GOOD thing now! :lol:

How was the SD feed?

Yes. The SoCon is very good. Currently rated 5th.... So long as we take care of business there we are OK. My concern is our pitching staff. I think we need to change some things up to give us the best shot in conference. Is this loss an at-large bid killer??? Probably not, if we keep winning. What it is though is a seeding killer. A 2 or a 3 seed is much, much better than a 4.

All of that will be an afterthought though if we can't find a pitcher or 2 in addition to Nunn that cam give us some quality starts. Thats my ultimate point.

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Re: App vs. Cornell

Unread post by Blackandgold » Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:09 pm

hapapp wrote:This is a very talented team. It is also very young in many facets of the game. I think to judge this team by last year is unfair and likely to disappoint. Baseball can be a funny game. One game you tear the cover off the ball, the next you can't get it out of the infield. We currently seem to have only consistent starter. It's going to be difficult to get too far without some consistent performances from the staff.
You're exactly right about comparing this team to last year. That comparison is not fair to make. Last year was full of vets that started all four years, and two weekend pitchers that threw 100 innings a piece. Lumps will be taken by the guys this year due to being young and somewhat inexperienced, especially the pitchers. That's what we are seeing now

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Re: App vs. Cornell

Unread post by Blackandgold » Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:15 pm

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mtnjax wrote: He's a completely different animal out of the pen. It suits him better. Look at his numbers last year as a starter
I agree on paper he is better suited in a closers role. That said, he would be worth more value to the team as a starter.... The way this team has proven to be this yr, we are either up big late or down big. True save opportunities have been few and far between because our saturday and Sunday starters can't get out of the 4th inning without imploding - not to mention the Saturday Davidson game with a "true save" opportunity presented itself Jones did 't call on 'cello (head scratcher)...

Sure there are errors in the field here and there. Those are going to happen, but numerous walks, hit batsmen and wild pitches are squarely on the starting pitchers and are unaccaptable at the rate they are occurring. Its time to try something different. We need someone that can start a game and give us 6+ solid innings week to week, besides Nunn, to have a chance late in the season. Otherwise our 'pen is going to be overworked and we are going to have a late season fade. It is time to make an adjustment or its going to be a long season once we get to the meat of the SoCon schedule.

Imop, Wilson should be the Saturday starter - he had done great in long relief role. It shouldn't take him long to get stretched out as he has been throwing 4 innings each saturday. My other suggestion is let 'Cello reprise his Sunday starter role from last year. Put Sam and Springs in the 'pen. They have shown they can go a couple innings and be effective.

Jones has shown he has no qualms about moving around the position players and batting order - it is time to allocate some attention to the pitching rotation. Its painfully obvious our current rotation outside of Nunn "isn't working."

But his velocity would drop back down into the 80s. He'd prob lose 5 mph if he moved back into the rotation. And he was very inconsistent as a starter last year. Kinda like what we are getting on Saturday and Sunday this year. He just a way better pitcher for one inning outta the pen.

This pitching struggle was somewhat expected, considering we lost 2 100 inning starters that both got drafted. You can't just replace that experience. The young guys will struggle, but will develop over time. A lot of innings had to be replaced this year, and we are seeing the difficulty in replacing that.

I agree some changes might need to be made. But I don't think moving Marcello back into the rotation is the answer. Also think we need to be realistic and realize we have good young arms, that will be up and down this year. Not comparable to the horses we had on the weekends last year.

Nunn on the other hand hasn't missed a beat. Pitching great.

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Re: App vs. Cornell

Unread post by Robert Norton » Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:06 pm

Marcello has had a bad case of the flu. Leach has a concussion from running into Zumbrook the other day. Should be back by next weekend. Shermer found out today that Frankoff is gone for the season. Has to have the screws in his elbow from after his high school jr. year repaired. Nunn took about 3-4 innings to get into the groove. I only stayed for the first game today. Good choice by me. With Davis, Leach and the other young players and the recruits we have coming in we will be a major player in the SmallCon. Hopefully somewhere else. The pitcher from Ill. is said to be hitting the mid 90's and the catcher coming in would probably start for us as a HS sr. Both very well may start as frosh, the pitcher as a weekend guy.

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Re: App vs. Cornell

Unread post by T-Dog » Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:31 pm

That explains Nunn going 8 IP today and throwing 120 pitches.

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Re: App vs. Cornell

Unread post by WataugaMan » Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:48 am

hapapp wrote:This is a very talented team. It is also very young in many facets of the game.
Agreed, they are talented. Also, like you state they're young. What they should have learned yesterday is, regardless of the opponent you had better bring your "A game" every time. Defeating teams from the SEC and ACC does not automatically guarantee victories over the "Cornells of the world", they play to win as well. We'll see how The Apps respond, hopefully we'll see better effort today.

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Re: App vs. Cornell

Unread post by cbarrier90 » Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:30 am

WataugaMan wrote:
hapapp wrote:This is a very talented team. It is also very young in many facets of the game.
Agreed, they are talented. Also, like you state they're young. What they should have learned yesterday is, regardless of the opponent you had better bring your "A game" every time. Defeating teams from the SEC and ACC does not automatically guarantee victories over the "Cornells of the world", they play to win as well. We'll see how The Apps respond, hopefully we'll see better effort today.
The "Cornells of the World" went to a regional last year and are favored to win the Ivy League again. Apparently, it's not just the players who are taking this team lightly... :lol:

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Re: App vs. Cornell

Unread post by mtnjax » Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:22 pm

Apps up 2-1 after 1 inning

Cornell playing dirty already, running Dobson over at 1st on a pickoff play to end the inning. good to see Coach Jones get out there and get on the umps. dude should have been ejected

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Re: App vs. Cornell

Unread post by WataugaMan » Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:47 pm

cbarrier90 wrote:
WataugaMan wrote:
hapapp wrote:This is a very talented team. It is also very young in many facets of the game.
Agreed, they are talented. Also, like you state they're young. What they should have learned yesterday is, regardless of the opponent you had better bring your "A game" every time. Defeating teams from the SEC and ACC does not automatically guarantee victories over the "Cornells of the world", they play to win as well. We'll see how The Apps respond, hopefully we'll see better effort today.
The "Cornells of the World" went to a regional last year and are favored to win the Ivy League again. Apparently, it's not just the players who are taking this team lightly... :lol:
I was not aware of that, that does change the perspective. I stand corrected. :oops:

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