Under a normal circumstance I'd see your point. Vega is the Glenn Beck of the anti-FBS camp. He is among the few that I could make such a comment in good conscious.JCline0429 wrote:
You are lecturing SOMEBODY ELSE about being obnoxious? You have to be kidding?
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Gonzo wrote:Under a normal circumstance I'd see your point. Vega is the Glenn Beck of the anti-FBS camp. He is among the few that I could make such a comment in good conscious.JCline0429 wrote:
You are lecturing SOMEBODY ELSE about being obnoxious? You have to be kidding?
And call my posts typical nonsense. Pot kettle.
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Gonzo wrote:Under a normal circumstance I'd see your point. Vega is the Glenn Beck of the anti-FBS camp. He is among the few that I could make such a comment in good conscious.JCline0429 wrote:
You are lecturing SOMEBODY ELSE about being obnoxious? You have to be kidding?

One game does not a postseason make.
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You're among him also, I was just trying to spare your feelings and not call you out unnecessarily.JCline0429 wrote:Gonzo wrote:Under a normal circumstance I'd see your point. Vega is the Glenn Beck of the anti-FBS camp. He is among the few that I could make such a comment in good conscious.JCline0429 wrote:
You are lecturing SOMEBODY ELSE about being obnoxious? You have to be kidding?
And call my posts typical nonsense. Pot kettle.
The sludge in the spokes of the wheels of progress. Unbriddled pessimism. But hey, at least you don't slander our new home in your signature. That's a plus.

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Slander... wow... That's a big word coming from a want-to-be-lawyer.Gonzo wrote:You're among him also, I was just trying to spare your feelings and not call you out unnecessarily.JCline0429 wrote:Gonzo wrote:Under a normal circumstance I'd see your point. Vega is the Glenn Beck of the anti-FBS camp. He is among the few that I could make such a comment in good conscious.JCline0429 wrote:
You are lecturing SOMEBODY ELSE about being obnoxious? You have to be kidding?
And call my posts typical nonsense. Pot kettle.
The sludge in the spokes of the wheels of progress. Unbriddled pessimism. But hey, at least you don't slander our new home in your signature. That's a plus.
I guess I'll have to wait until I get the cease and desist letter from the Sunbelt to take it down.
I'm certainly not going to do it for a message board troll that wants to impress his new "buddies" in the Sunbelt.
One game does not a postseason make.
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Before Gonz completely derails this thread and makes 89 close it can we get it back on track??
3 more bowls... 6 more postseason teams... 3 more locations to travel/experience... yadda-yadda-yadda..
3 more bowls... 6 more postseason teams... 3 more locations to travel/experience... yadda-yadda-yadda..

One game does not a postseason make.
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Yeah, I derailed it.vegattk wrote:Before Gonz completely derails this thread and makes 89 close it can we get it back on track??
3 more bowls... 6 more postseason teams... 3 more locations to travel/experience... yadda-yadda-yadda..

Come on, man. Not even you could believe that one.
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Hey now...I used to be a "want-to-be-lawyer." Today I used a big word in "execute." As in, "we should execute this thread and put it out of its misery."
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"Sounds like 5 games with more national prestige than the FCS National Championship game"Gonzo wrote:Yeah, I derailed it.vegattk wrote:Before Gonz completely derails this thread and makes 89 close it can we get it back on track??
3 more bowls... 6 more postseason teams... 3 more locations to travel/experience... yadda-yadda-yadda..I just sat here and insulted the FCS for no apparent reason.
Come on, man. Not even you could believe that one.
Took you 4 posts to derail it... In a way, and especially for you, it showed some restraint
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Read my post again.WVAPPeer wrote:Well the 4th post in the thread is where it started and I would assume by a pro-FBSer making a negative comment toward the FCS - I would say it initiated exactly opposite from your point ---bcoach wrote:So many discussions on here turn to kindergarten bantering because FBS folks can't let loose of their feelings about the move. Why does a comment about way too many bowls have to be answered by a comment about FCS playoffs? One has nothing to do with the other. Every single time something is said about FBS there has to be a comparison to FCS. I have no doubt that we will not go back to FCS any time soon. You can stop protecting your flank.
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Sounds like 5 games with more national prestige than the FCS National Championship game."
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It was derailed in Cline's post. I was responding.vegattk wrote:"Sounds like 5 games with more national prestige than the FCS National Championship game"Gonzo wrote:Yeah, I derailed it.vegattk wrote:Before Gonz completely derails this thread and makes 89 close it can we get it back on track??
3 more bowls... 6 more postseason teams... 3 more locations to travel/experience... yadda-yadda-yadda..I just sat here and insulted the FCS for no apparent reason.
Come on, man. Not even you could believe that one.
Took you 4 posts to derail it... In a way, and especially for you, it showed some restraint
You're not going to Fox News me, man. You should stop trying.
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Cline's post was talking about adding extra bowl games for teams that will more than likely have .500 or sub .500 seasons... He mentioned nothing about FCS...Gonzo wrote:It was derailed in Cline's post. I was responding.vegattk wrote:"Sounds like 5 games with more national prestige than the FCS National Championship game"Gonzo wrote:Yeah, I derailed it.vegattk wrote:Before Gonz completely derails this thread and makes 89 close it can we get it back on track??
3 more bowls... 6 more postseason teams... 3 more locations to travel/experience... yadda-yadda-yadda..I just sat here and insulted the FCS for no apparent reason.
Come on, man. Not even you could believe that one.
Took you 4 posts to derail it... In a way, and especially for you, it showed some restraint
You're not going to Fox News me, man. You should stop trying.
You're looking for ghosts when there aren't any.
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He is trying to NBC youvegattk wrote:Cline's post was talking about adding extra bowl games for teams that will more than likely have .500 or sub .500 seasons... He mentioned nothing about FCS...Gonzo wrote:It was derailed in Cline's post. I was responding.vegattk wrote:"Sounds like 5 games with more national prestige than the FCS National Championship game"Gonzo wrote:Yeah, I derailed it.vegattk wrote:Before Gonz completely derails this thread and makes 89 close it can we get it back on track??
3 more bowls... 6 more postseason teams... 3 more locations to travel/experience... yadda-yadda-yadda..I just sat here and insulted the FCS for no apparent reason.
Come on, man. Not even you could believe that one.
Took you 4 posts to derail it... In a way, and especially for you, it showed some restraint
You're not going to Fox News me, man. You should stop trying.
You're looking for ghosts when there aren't any.
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It was a gripe about the FBS system and the catalyst of this conversation.vegattk wrote: Cline's post was talking about adding extra bowl games for teams that will more than likely have .500 or sub .500 seasons... He mentioned nothing about FCS...
You're looking for ghosts when there aren't any.
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It was a gripe about bowl games. You were the catalyst of this conversation.Gonzo wrote:It was a gripe about the FBS system and the catalyst of this conversation.vegattk wrote: Cline's post was talking about adding extra bowl games for teams that will more than likely have .500 or sub .500 seasons... He mentioned nothing about FCS...
You're looking for ghosts when there aren't any.
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The inherent flaws in the FBS tem have nothing to do with FCS. Anyone who can look at the FBS system and, with a straight face, claim that it is not FUBAR needs serious professional help. One has nothing to do with the other. Nor does pointing out those flaws automatically make one anti-progress, anti-FBS or anti- anything else.Gonzo wrote:It was a gripe about the FBS system and the catalyst of this conversation.vegattk wrote: Cline's post was talking about adding extra bowl games for teams that will more than likely have .500 or sub .500 seasons... He mentioned nothing about FCS...
You're looking for ghosts when there aren't any.
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FUBAR is correct. The FBS system is ruled by one thing and one thing only. MONEY. And money will determine what the future holds for everyone in the FBS. Split divisions, realignment to more regional G5 conferences, P5 and G5 playoffs, and any other moves, mergers, etc, by anyone will all be determined by the five letter word that controls everything. Only time will tell what and when.appst89 wrote:The inherent flaws in the FBS tem have nothing to do with FCS. Anyone who can look at the FBS system and, with a straight face, claim that it is not FUBAR needs serious professional help. One has nothing to do with the other. Nor does pointing out those flaws automatically make one anti-progress, anti-FBS or anti- anything else.
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In the context of an App football discussion, mentioning the perks of FBS Bowling as opposed FCS playoffs is completely reasonable, especially during this time of transition.
"Where we're going sucks."
"Well, in a lot of ways it is better than from where we came"
Is the second person in the above hypothetical an ass hole? Is that comment irrelevant and troll-like?
Crucify me for looking to the bright side. Geez. I refuse to apologize for not wallowing in misery at the prospect of the highest level of college football. I loved the FCS playoffs. It is all I've known of App State football. I point out the FCS' shortcomings purely as a counter to the relentless bashing of our new subdivision by a select few.
I'm pretty sure that, to a few of you, anything I post is poisoned no matter how reasonable it actually is.
Vega is the biggest troll on the MMB. I don't care how much free time he has to play on Adobe CS6.
"Where we're going sucks."
"Well, in a lot of ways it is better than from where we came"
Is the second person in the above hypothetical an ass hole? Is that comment irrelevant and troll-like?
Crucify me for looking to the bright side. Geez. I refuse to apologize for not wallowing in misery at the prospect of the highest level of college football. I loved the FCS playoffs. It is all I've known of App State football. I point out the FCS' shortcomings purely as a counter to the relentless bashing of our new subdivision by a select few.
I'm pretty sure that, to a few of you, anything I post is poisoned no matter how reasonable it actually is.
Vega is the biggest troll on the MMB. I don't care how much free time he has to play on Adobe CS6.
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Gonzo wrote:In the context of an App football discussion, mentioning the perks of FBS Bowling as opposed FCS playoffs is completely reasonable, especially during this time of transition.
"Where we're going sucks."
"Well, in a lot of ways it is better than from where we came"
Is the second person in the above hypothetical an ass hole? Is that comment irrelevant and troll-like?
Crucify me for looking to the bright side. Geez. I refuse to apologize for not wallowing in misery at the prospect of the highest level of college football. I loved the FCS playoffs. It is all I've known of App State football. I point out the FCS' shortcomings purely as a counter to the relentless bashing of our new subdivision by a select few.
I'm pretty sure that, to a few of you, anything I post is poisoned no matter how reasonable it actually is.
Vega is the biggest troll on the MMB. I don't care how much free time he has to play on Adobe CS6.
Pointing out the inherent flaws in the FBS is not wallowing in misery, at least not by my definition. I am happy that we are joining the Sun Belt. I am glad we will get the opportunity to play games against teams we have felt we should be playing. I will watch however many games we are fortunate enough to play in a season. I realize that FCS was/is a dying breed. I also realize that the FBS model is broken. It is ruled by the very few who have the most and will continue to be so. The current bowl system is ridiculous. Pointing that out does not make me any less excited, much less miserable. It isn't either/or, it isn't all or nothing. That point seems to elude a lot of people on both sides of this conversation.