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[BambooRdApp]

He would be a volunteer basically ,not unlike other members of the staff.

That is pretty much what he would be but my point is that he does not need it and can be around his son without doing any work. I just don't see extra value in it for him.

How do you know what he "needs"?

I am referring to the money. The Dolphins will be paying him this season and next season so he does not need to come work at App for money and Loggains will let him see his son without taking a job. Most former GMs don't even rush into NFL jobs while still collecting a check from previous teams so why would he come work for a G6 when we can't pay him more than Dolphins are already paying him?

I know exactly what you are talking about.
Most individuals that are very successful and make it to higher levels of organizations are not driven by money. It is not their "need". Money takes care of itself.

[BambooRdApp]

Sitting at home is nice until you sit at home, from my experience.

THIS is sage wisdom.

My experience was that you cant mow the grass but so many times a week!!

I tend to agree with both statements but “sitting at home” with NFL GM money could be a touch different than what we’re thinking about.

Yeah he can stay home making millions. NFL GM money is very different from what folks on here are thinking.

I think "folks on here" understand the compensation of an NFL GM

[311neers]

Guess Dowell wasn’t the problem at South Carolina…

Shula, OC…Fired.

[AppStFan1]

We have others doing it.

Those people are coaches who were never head coaches in the NFL. We are talking about a NFL GM and those people are just not coming to App to volunteer or make 100k a year. That is an insult to those guys.

[AppStFan1]

The value to him is that he has to remain relevant in the industry. GMs are like coaches in that their number one priority is to remain employed. Sitting out a couple of years and you risk not having a seat at the table.

He has plenty of connections that will allow him to land somewhere in the NFL when his Dolphins money runs out. Most NFL people go to the Senior Bowl or NFL Combine to talk to people if they want to stay in sight and mind of NFL teams so I would imagine he would do that if he wants to stay relevant. I fully expect him to be at our games to support his son and then go to those events or take a job at a P4. We can't pay him enough money to make it worth putting in 30+ hours a week at App in between NFL jobs. I will be curious to see if he decides to go back to the NFL or take a GM job with a P4 team since a lot of NFL people have started going to P4 programs the last few years.

People who get to that level aren’t there for the money. Yes that sounds counter-intuitive, but while they get paid a lot of money for what they do, they don’t do it for the money. The job is the dopamine.

Of course they love football but once most people get to a certain level they aren't going to do the same job for 1/10 the price they were getting paid for it. It is why you don't see a ton of NFL players go to the CFL or UFL once they stop getting NFL calls. Chris Grier has been working a long time and has good money coming in for another year so he just does not need to come work for App. He started in the NFL back in the mid 90s with the Patriots and has been with the Dolphins since either 2000 or 2001 working a very hard job. Unless we are willing to pay him more than he would make from the Dolphins while he sits at home I just don't see any reason to come work at App.

I wasn’t making a case that he could come to App. My point, which you clearly missed is that guys like Chris aren’t going to be content sitting at home while getting paid from a former employer. Players aren't even part of the question so there is no need to try and create relevance with them. CEO’s don’t build a company and retire, they build it and move on to the next challenge.

Many of them are content with it though. Those who are not usually go to a P4, work in the media, or go to events like SB and Combine to network and get back in. They don't volunteer or take insulting pay to work for a G6 program. There are a ton of former NFL GMs who got out of football, went TV route, or retired completely. Jerry Reese won 2 Super Bowls with NYG and you don't see him popping up because he is content with staying at home. Remember Gene Smith from the Jaguars? He also did exactly what you are saying does not happen. Matt Millen is on TV. People like Marc Ross, Scott Pioli, etc are working in the media. I can name countless examples of it.

Show me a former NFL GM volunteering or taking a role with a G6 program.

[AppStFan1]

He would be a volunteer basically ,not unlike other members of the staff.

That is pretty much what he would be but my point is that he does not need it and can be around his son without doing any work. I just don't see extra value in it for him.

How do you know what he "needs"?

I am referring to the money. The Dolphins will be paying him this season and next season so he does not need to come work at App for money and Loggains will let him see his son without taking a job. Most former GMs don't even rush into NFL jobs while still collecting a check from previous teams so why would he come work for a G6 when we can't pay him more than Dolphins are already paying him?

I know exactly what you are talking about.
Most individuals that are very successful and make it to higher levels of organizations are not driven by money. It is not their "need". Money takes care of itself.

For many but not all. The argument here is why Chris Grier would take a job with App State. Former NFL GMs are not volunteering for a G6. If he wants to get back in the NFL his best route is to work at FS1, ESPN, etc or go to a P4 or just go network at the combine and Senior Bowl.

[AppStFan1]

Sitting at home is nice until you sit at home, from my experience.

THIS is sage wisdom.

My experience was that you cant mow the grass but so many times a week!!

I tend to agree with both statements but “sitting at home” with NFL GM money could be a touch different than what we’re thinking about.

Yeah he can stay home making millions. NFL GM money is very different from what folks on here are thinking.

I think "folks on here" understand the compensation of an NFL GM

I'm sure we all do but the argument is that he would come work at App and there is no reason or need for him to do so. You do realize he could land a job on TV for 5-7x what we can pay him, right? That would make him way more relevant than coming to App.

[AppStFan1]

Guess Dowell wasn’t the problem at South Carolina…

Shula, OC…Fired.

Of course he was not the problem. I don't know anyone who truly knows ball at all who thought Shula would do well there. He is awful. Loggains is a good coach.

[Bootsy]

Forget about Shula; let’s get back to the pointless argument about Grier coming to App.

#byeweeklove

[BambooRdApp]

THIS is sage wisdom.

My experience was that you cant mow the grass but so many times a week!!

I tend to agree with both statements but “sitting at home” with NFL GM money could be a touch different than what we’re thinking about.

Yeah he can stay home making millions. NFL GM money is very different from what folks on here are thinking.

I think "folks on here" understand the compensation of an NFL GM

I'm sure we all do but the argument is that he would come work at App and there is no reason or need for him to do so. You do realize he could land a job on TV for 5-7x what we can pay him, right? That would make him way more relevant than coming to App.

He could do many things.
No one is debating money as we know that he has been handsomely compensated.
He could do a myriad of gigs in between gigs.
and one of those things could be to get involved where his kids are located.
Do I think it is promising, no?. .but that is not the point of the conversation...
My reply was solely the point that you stated that "most folks on here" do not understand his compensation while being an NFL GM... That is a ludicrous statement.