Coaches with multiyear deals?

[firemoose]

I heard of this last week but as some know I try not to put anything on here unless 3 different sources say the same thing. Heard Sunday and today that, during the coaches interviews this past Saturday the candidates were told that three coaches are in multiyear deals. Those coaches are Scott Satterfield, Dale Jones, and Scott Slone. The sources didn't say exactly how many years are left on each but it appears that Satterfield has 2 and Jones and Slone might both have at least 1 year left. This was a point of contention with each of the candidates but one. No need to guess which one that was. If true it might be difficult to get a coach not named Satterfield in because obviously coaches would like to bring their own staffs in and this ties their hands since they were told that we can't buy them out. And if true then it doesn't appear that Scott has a problem keeping DJ, as several people on here have wondered. Since Tim Horton has said he would consider keeping Satterfield then it might be possible to buy out Jones' and/or Slones' if that is what he wants to do but, as said, it was a very big discussion point with 4 of the 5 interviewed.

These are very good sources that I have learned to trust but since I wasn't in the room I spent several hours trying to find contract info this afternoon so I could see it for myself and will continue to do so. There are plenty of places that tell the salary but not contract length or end date. One funny thing is that Jones and Slone are listed in the UNC salary database but none of our other coaches are. I thought it might be that the database was old but it shows as updated in Oct. I guess it's stay tuned as usual to see what happens.

[unknown]

I heard of this last week but as some know I try not to put anything on here unless 3 different sources say the same thing. Heard Sunday and today that, during the coaches interviews this past Saturday the candidates were told that three coaches are in multiyear deals. Those coaches are Scott Satterfield, Dale Jones, and Scott Slone. The sources didn't say exactly how many years are left on each but it appears that Satterfield has 2 and Jones and Slone might both have at least 1 year left. This was a point of contention with each of the candidates but one. No need to guess which one that was. If true it might be difficult to get a coach not named Satterfield in because obviously coaches would like to bring their own staffs in and this ties their hands since they were told that we can't buy them out. And if true then it doesn't appear that Scott has a problem keeping DJ, as several people on here have wondered. Since Tim Horton has said he would consider keeping Satterfield then it might be possible to buy out Jones' and/or Slones' if that is what he wants to do but, as said, it was a very big discussion point with 4 of the 5 interviewed.

These are very good sources that I have learned to trust but since I wasn't in the room I spent several hours trying to find contract info this afternoon so I could see it for myself and will continue to do so. There are plenty of places that tell the salary but not contract length or end date. One funny thing is that Jones and Slone are listed in the UNC salary database but none of our other coaches are. I thought it might be that the database was old but it shows as updated in Oct. I guess it's stay tuned as usual to see what happens.

there are 3 coaches with 2 years remaining

[hapapp]

Seems to me that makes it very likely that Satterfield will be named HC.

[MountainMan]

If true, and I certainly have no reason to doubt your information, that makes for a very strange situation for doing coaching interviews. Why in the world would we expect a new coach who's future hinges on what is accomplished in the next few years to have to accept 3 existing coaches? One might not be such a big deal (you move him to special teams coach), but three?

Since we are still sitting around without a coaching announcement, makes me think there may be something to the speculation that we are trying to work out something with Horton (as a 1st choice) rather than Satterfield.

Interesting times.

[firemoose]

there are 3 coaches with 2 years remaining

That's what I heard but also heard 2 with 2 and 1 with 1. I sat on this for several days but felt, after the interviews, that it should be told because it directly affects the search. Interesting times indeed.

[asu66]

It's pretty unusual for assistant coaches to get multi-year deals; but we DO have three. If we want Horton bad enough and it takes it, one or more of those contracts could be bought out. If Jones gets a position at UT-K, he's gone anyway--no prob! Horton would likely keep Satterfield and Sloan.

[t4pizza]

I posted this over on rivals but thought I should repeat my thoughts here.

This really makes little to no sense to me, unless it was always going to be SS's job. Everyone knows that a new coach gets to pick his staff. So why would we put ourselves in the position of having to get a new coach when critical pieces of the staff were still under contract? My only reasonable answer is that we wouldn't do that, unless we knew the new coach would keep those still under contract. This "national search" is proving to be just as big a joke as with our basketball coach but at least this time CC has made it appear we are doing a true search. Everyone in the admin had to know that no other candidates would want to follow a legend and not be able to put their own staff in place. It is now clear to me that CC always intended to give SS the job.

[unknown]

"It is now clear to me that CC always intended to give SS the job"

No

[Saint3333]

It's pretty unusual for assistant coaches to get multi-year deals; but we DO have three. If we want Horton bad enough and it takes it, one or more of those contracts could be bought out. If Jones gets a position at UT-K, he's gone anyway--no prob! Horton would likely keep Satterfield and Sloan.

Preach Chuck.

[asu66]

"Preach Chuck."


OK...a little more. With KP just getting back on campus from a meeting tomorrow and with an all-day Trustees meeting on Friday, I think the presser to introduce our new HC will be held either on Thursday AM or Saturday AM. (That, of course, assumes it's going down this week. That's a risky assumption under the circumstances--but I'll stick my neck out that far!

[firemoose]

It's pretty unusual for assistant coaches to get multi-year deals; but we DO have three. If we want Horton bad enough and it takes it, one or more of those contracts could be bought out. If Jones gets a position at UT-K, he's gone anyway--no prob! Horton would likely keep Satterfield and Sloan.

Your post on Rivals got a little messed up Chuck but I figured it out before I came over here. I agree with both of your posts. I've been watching the Vols situation closely to see if Jones does indeed get the offer. That could make the situation a little easier. Based on conversations I felt that, if Tim got the job, that he would be very open to keeping SS1 on. Wasn't sure about SS2 but mainly because I didn't ask.

Also, really hope the meeting went well.

[Kgfish]

I heard of this last week but as some know I try not to put anything on here unless 3 different sources say the same thing. Heard Sunday and today that, during the coaches interviews this past Saturday the candidates were told that three coaches are in multiyear deals. Those coaches are Scott Satterfield, Dale Jones, and Scott Slone. The sources didn't say exactly how many years are left on each but it appears that Satterfield has 2 and Jones and Slone might both have at least 1 year left. This was a point of contention with each of the candidates but one. No need to guess which one that was. If true it might be difficult to get a coach not named Satterfield in because obviously coaches would like to bring their own staffs in and this ties their hands since they were told that we can't buy them out. And if true then it doesn't appear that Scott has a problem keeping DJ, as several people on here have wondered. Since Tim Horton has said he would consider keeping Satterfield then it might be possible to buy out Jones' and/or Slones' if that is what he wants to do but, as said, it was a very big discussion point with 4 of the 5 interviewed.

These are very good sources that I have learned to trust but since I wasn't in the room I spent several hours trying to find contract info this afternoon so I could see it for myself and will continue to do so. There are plenty of places that tell the salary but not contract length or end date. One funny thing is that Jones and Slone are listed in the UNC salary database but none of our other coaches are. I thought it might be that the database was old but it shows as updated in Oct. I guess it's stay tuned as usual to see what happens.

Why Cobb would agree to one multiple contract is odd, but three? It is unheard of to give assistant coaches multi year deals. Him knowing this would be Coach Moore's last year makes it all the more suspect. Cobb is no novice. He knew only one of the finalist's would be agreeable keeping leftovers from the previous staff. Hate to say this but it is looking more like a probablility and less like a possibility the fix is in for Satterfield. Why go through the scam of a national search which cost the university even more money? Was it simply to hide the true agenda? Something doesn't smell right with this situation.

[WVAPPeer]

"This aggression will not stand, man" ---

I actually have a hard time believing all you guys are as hard-hearted as it seems - in fact, I'm sure most are not - we are talking the careers of other men - men with wives, children, mortgages, bills --- when the other coaches are moving on either voluntarily or not and if you are part of the remaining core knowing what is happening and what the future holds would you not go to your boss and ask for some security??? - sure you would !!! - and if you were the boss trying to hold it together with all the changes coming down the road, wouldn't you do what you could to keep that core on board to weather the storm and begin the transition? - If you were smart you would !!! ---

Some of you seem to only care about wins and losses - Fire Jones!!! - man that is easy to say - This is a man who has devoted years to ASU football - a man with a family - Yeah, it is so easy to say "Fire him" - some are lucky there aren't message boards where you work !!!
THE DUDE ABIDES!!!

[ASUTodd]

"This aggression will not stand, man" ---

I actually have a hard time believing all you guys are as hard-hearted as it seems - in fact, I'm sure most are not - we are talking the careers of other men - men with wives, children, mortgages, bills --- when the other coaches are moving on either voluntarily or not and if you are part of the remaining core knowing what is happening and what the future holds would you not go to your boss and ask for some security??? - sure you would !!! - and if you were the boss trying to hold it together with all the changes coming down the road, wouldn't you do what you could to keep that core on board to weather the storm and begin the transition? - If you were smart you would !!! ---

Some of you seem to only care about wins and losses - Fire Jones!!! - man that is easy to say - This is a man who has devoted years to ASU football - a man with a family - Yeah, it is so easy to say "Fire him" - some are lucky there aren't message boards where you work !!!
THE DUDE ABIDES!!!

And a man that continued to put Blaylock on the field every week... I have a three year old that could have played better coverage. Jones should make like a tree and leave.

[JTApps1]

It seems like Horton wants Satterfield as OC so that shouldn't be an issue. Maybe the best fix would be to keep Jones on but demote him to special teams coach for the remainder of his contract. Then it's up to Jones to decide if his ego can handle that. If not the problem is solved. Sloan has proved to be a very good recruiter so keeping him may not be as hard to swallow.

[AppinVA]

I'm not opposed to giving Jones another year under new leadership and with another year to build the defense. If things improve, great. If they don't, we should still be good enough offensively to win the most games in the SoCon (as I hope we will be intelligible for the official title next season), and we can make any adjustments accordingly. It's not a big gamble, really.

[ASU_MBA]

"This aggression will not stand, man" ---

I actually have a hard time believing all you guys are as hard-hearted as it seems - in fact, I'm sure most are not - we are talking the careers of other men - men with wives, children, mortgages, bills --- when the other coaches are moving on either voluntarily or not and if you are part of the remaining core knowing what is happening and what the future holds would you not go to your boss and ask for some security??? - sure you would !!! - and if you were the boss trying to hold it together with all the changes coming down the road, wouldn't you do what you could to keep that core on board to weather the storm and begin the transition? - If you were smart you would !!! ---

Some of you seem to only care about wins and losses - Fire Jones!!! - man that is easy to say - This is a man who has devoted years to ASU football - a man with a family - Yeah, it is so easy to say "Fire him" - some are lucky there aren't message boards where you work !!!
THE DUDE ABIDES!!!

It is a business and he is not getting it done. I sent an email to Cobb with the defensive stats since Stale Dale took over and said we need a change at the D Coord. position. Doubt he listens but voiced my opinion. I don't care if Dale Jones walked an old lady to work everyday since he has been at ASU, his defenses have been horrible. Take your rose colored glasses off and look at the stats.

He is in waaay over his heard.

[ASU_MBA]

Saw this posted on another board....Dale needs to Go!

2011 Stats
--total defense 53rd
--scoring defense 41st
--rush defense 56th, passing 54th

2010 stats
--Total defense 51st
--scoring defense 53rd
--rush defense 82nd, passing 34th

2009 Stats
--Total Defense 36th
--scoring defense 51st
--rush defense 47th, passing 39th

This year we ranked 92nd in FCS in total defense, with two all Americans.

[GlassOnion]

"This aggression will not stand, man" ---

I actually have a hard time believing all you guys are as hard-hearted as it seems - in fact, I'm sure most are not - we are talking the careers of other men - men with wives, children, mortgages, bills --- when the other coaches are moving on either voluntarily or not and if you are part of the remaining core knowing what is happening and what the future holds would you not go to your boss and ask for some security??? - sure you would !!! - and if you were the boss trying to hold it together with all the changes coming down the road, wouldn't you do what you could to keep that core on board to weather the storm and begin the transition? - If you were smart you would !!! ---

Some of you seem to only care about wins and losses - Fire Jones!!! - man that is easy to say - This is a man who has devoted years to ASU football - a man with a family - Yeah, it is so easy to say "Fire him" - some are lucky there aren't message boards where you work !!!
THE DUDE ABIDES!!!

Youve finally convinced me.

Fire the guy.

[asumike83]

I have no problem keeping Scot Sloan on, he did a GREAT job pulling a class together last year after Speir left for Western. Based on what we've seen so far, the 2013 class looks like it will be another good one for us.

I'm not typically a "Fire Him!" type of fan but Dale Jones' defenses have seen a disturbing trend. This was year three for him as DC and it has been a steady decline. Relieving him of his duties as DC would not be a rash decision, IMO.

I will say that he's done a great job as position coach for the linebackers and if he'd be willing to stay on in that capacity while someone else calls the shots, I'd be all for it.