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Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Unread post by canes_mj » Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:21 pm

Agree with the posters that said Swofford better hold a hard line on the exit fee. It's not about Maryland, but about Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, and Miami. Those schools will be watching this very carefully. I highly doubt the Big 12 will stay at 10 schools for much longer. If they expand to 12 they get a conference championship game, and the chance to expand their footprint, leading to more tv dollars. The only schools that make sense and add value for the Big 12 are those ACC schools mentioned. The SEC could be a factor too. If Maryland gets out easy, those others may look to leave also.

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Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Unread post by AppinVA » Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:49 pm

bcoach wrote:
AppSt94 wrote:It very likely will be bought out. IMO.
That would be fine with me. We get to keep that very special day. We avoid all the crap we would take from the blonde jerk on ESPN and we get probably a very large part of the money. Looks like a win,win, win, to me.
And we get to call them Chicken. :lol:
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Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Unread post by fjblair » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:17 pm

bcoach wrote:I find it very interesting that an ACC school had such great money problems that they had to drop 7 sports. There is not enough money in their TV contracts to keep them in business at 15 million a year plus their other income. The big 10 dishes out 24 million. The TV contracts just keep getting bigger and bigger and we think it will never stop. Kind of reminds me of the housing market. prices were never going to stop going up......till they did, and things like that never just stop, they start going down. Funny thing about that, is that the mortgage payments don't go down. Just something to think about.

That's a very good post. The astronomical growth in tv revenue is not sustainable. At some point it will implode. Universities like Maryland who are feeding at the trough will take the worst of it. Under this latest arrangement Maryland will be receiving an enormously disproportionate chunk of money relative to the product they put on the field and revenue they generate. I said product because that is what college football has become. At some point those voodoo economics cease to function.

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Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Unread post by GoAppsGo92 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:48 pm

Guys, hold on to your hats. Rumors are flying about big moves from B1G and SEC to get to 16, and the ACC is in the crosshairs. Most of the public schools in the ACC are looking to be picked off. This could be a really, really, interesting bowl season.

I have to believe that these moves will create an opening for us... but it really does look like the SEC, B1G and Big 12 are looking to get to 16 teams this time.

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Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Unread post by appst89 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:51 pm

fjblair wrote:
bcoach wrote:I find it very interesting that an ACC school had such great money problems that they had to drop 7 sports. There is not enough money in their TV contracts to keep them in business at 15 million a year plus their other income. The big 10 dishes out 24 million. The TV contracts just keep getting bigger and bigger and we think it will never stop. Kind of reminds me of the housing market. prices were never going to stop going up......till they did, and things like that never just stop, they start going down. Funny thing about that, is that the mortgage payments don't go down. Just something to think about.

That's a very good post. The astronomical growth in tv revenue is not sustainable. At some point it will implode. Universities like Maryland who are feeding at the trough will take the worst of it. Under this latest arrangement Maryland will be receiving an enormously disproportionate chunk of money relative to the product they put on the field and revenue they generate. I said product because that is what college football has become. At some point those voodoo economics cease to function.
This is going to be just like the housing bubble. When it bursts, and it will because it has to, there are going to be a lot of schools with a huge mess to clean up.

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Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Unread post by appst89 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:53 pm

GoAppsGo92 wrote:Guys, hold on to your hats. Rumors are flying about big moves from B1G and SEC to get to 16, and the ACC is in the crosshairs. Most of the public schools in the ACC are looking to be picked off. This could be a really, really, interesting bowl season.

I have to believe that these moves will create an opening for us... but it really does look like the SEC, B1G and Big 12 are looking to get to 16 teams this time.
Heard Krzyzewski on the radio today. He sounded very worried. He knows the ACC is in a very bad spot if this is, indeed, the next round. We are headed for four sixteen team conferences and the ACC looks to be the odd man out.

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Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Unread post by GoAppsGo92 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:01 pm

This is the ACC right now:

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Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Unread post by rbarthle17 » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:35 am

GoAppsGo92 wrote:Guys, hold on to your hats. Rumors are flying about big moves from B1G and SEC to get to 16, and the ACC is in the crosshairs. Most of the public schools in the ACC are looking to be picked off. This could be a really, really, interesting bowl season.

I have to believe that these moves will create an opening for us... but it really does look like the SEC, B1G and Big 12 are looking to get to 16 teams this time.
Unless they pick off schools from mid majors, this does nothing for us. If these conferences are just targeting the ACC, would it not be plausible that the leftovers from the ACC merge with the leftovers of the Big East? I think the numbers add up there, and that would mean nothing for us - and possibly be the nail in the coffin.

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Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Unread post by GoAppsGo92 » Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:38 am

There is a lot to be decided, but the odds are slim that CUSA and Sunbelt will be unaffected by all of this. If there are no more ACC raids, the big east has to replace Rutgers and either UCONN or Louisville and will look for MAC and CUSA schools to fill that void, plus possibly another western team to keep the western contingent happy. The schools most likely affected to fill vacancies in CUSA/BE I guess would be UMASS, ECU, WKU and MTSU on the east coast.

If the western part of the BE breaks away... and possibly rejoins the MW, the BE could very well be in serious trouble as a football conference... All of us will be watching to see how this develops. The big guys clearly have the large public schools of the ACC in the sights. The ACC will have to rob from BE and CUSA to replace as many as 4-6 teams. That may leave BE football dead, but CUSA will have to replace as well.

We will see, but I think its unlikely that this doesn't make its way to ASU... even if expansion stops with Maryland and Rutgers.

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Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Unread post by rbarthle17 » Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:07 pm

If this makes it down to the mid majors, I agree that I think it's finally time for us to get the call. Although the fans from Liberty still seem to think they are first in line. I actually see the west cost Big East teams going back to MWC as a really bad sign for us if that happens. The fewer teams the Big East has, the more I really see the end result being a merger of the ACC and Big East into one superconference. We need that not to happen in order to have any hopes.

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Unread post by TheMoody1 » Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:22 pm

No matter what happens with the big boys, I think the Sun Belt will be expanding to 14 or 16 sooner rather than later.

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Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Unread post by ASUMountaineer » Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:33 pm

I have given up trying to figure this realignment mess out. I am just ready for ASU to either make a move or be done with it. It was interesting for the first couple of off-seasons, but now it's just annoying.
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Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Unread post by Rekdiver » Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:39 pm

College sports and traditional rivalries have been ruined..........All of this makes me sick.

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Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Unread post by moehler » Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:51 pm

I dont have any sympathy for the ACC/Big East. When the BCS was created its sole purpose was to make any much money possible for a select few. The ACC/BE made the deal with the devil when they believed the Big Ten would always be on their side and would take care of them. Now, its every man for himself, it looks like the ACC/Big East are getting what they deserve......I love Karma!!!

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Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Unread post by YesAppCan » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:19 pm

TheMoody1 wrote:No matter what happens with the big boys, I think the Sun Belt will be expanding to 14 or 16 sooner rather than later.
I agree and also think C-USA will eventually add a couple more teams. I really think our time in FCS is growing shorter.

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Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Unread post by moehler » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:25 pm

ya know, common sense says your right about our time in the FCS is over, but after UNCC got into conference USA, I've learned anything is possible, and I'll believe we are moving up when Peacock holds a press conference.

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Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Unread post by T-Dog » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:29 pm

moehler wrote:ya know, common sense says your right about our time in the FCS is over, but after UNCC got into conference USA, I've learned anything is possible, and I'll believe we are moving up when Peacock holds a press conference.
I'll believe it when the logo is painted on the field.

I also won't bother discussing it until after the season is over.

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Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Unread post by YesAppCan » Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:07 pm

I just enjoy riding the roller coaster once in a while. ;)

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Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Unread post by GoAppsGo92 » Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:16 pm

YesAppCan wrote:I just enjoy riding the roller coaster once in a while. ;)
Yep, me too. I think all of this is quite interesting. Who knew UM and Rutgers would be B1G bound, and the ACC would possibly be in serious trouble... even after kinda sorta landing Notre Dame?

Just when it seemed as if we were settling in, we have another group of major moves. I think our chances now are better than before B1G's moves were revealed. A lot better.

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