UNCC sees recruiting boost

[hapapp]

The fact that so many of our fans rip UNCC at every turn tells me that they are really anxious about Charlotte stealing alot of our thunder and competing for the same athletes. I'm no fan of the 49ers and really don't have much knowledge about the school but I find it a bit unseemly that some persist in trashing them at every turn. Seems jealousy at UNCC's good fortunes is behind some of the vitriol.

FWIW, they look to be on the level of ECU.

http://collegeapps.about.com/od/sat/a/n ... na-sat.htm

I don't engage in ripping UNCC at every turn. But, living in Charlotte, I have met several alums and some of them talk more trash about ASU than what you see App fans doing on this board.

The last time I was on UNCC's campus was when ASU played them in basketball. I was there with my wife and their fans were almost as bad as GSU fans (at least GSU is a rival). We were taunted, yelled and cursed at, and not just in the stands (not in the student section), but on our way to the car in the parking deck. Even had a group gather around my Jeep on the way out yelling about how badly ASU sucks.

I don't necessarily have anything against UNCC as an institution, but because of my personal experiences with their fans, I will pull for them to lose every game they play.

Don't misunderstand me. I'm not defending them in anyway. I just don't think we should obsess over them and put them down at every turn because they have something (FBS) we don't at the moment.

[eggers76]

[quote="ASUPATCH... No matter how much I hate the tar holes yes they can look down on us academically. UNC is in a league of its own...

...especially when it comes to no show, no test, no professor classes that many of their athletes apparently were steered to by academic advisors to keep their eligibility while all the time holding to "the Caroina Way" mantra used to look down at others.

Sorry for the rant. We have a GREAT school and that is enough for me. Now on the playing fields I want to kick them all in the proverbial rear end even if it is tiddly winks.

[3rd]

My question is, if we move up to FBS sooner rather than later and that move happens before UNCC has some winning seasons under its belt and we bring a program that is known for winning to the recruiting table will it be harder for them to recruit over us? Almost a complete reverse of what we have now. This is all hypothetical just throwing it out their

[Gonzo]

We will not see a noticeable impact on recruiting as a result of UNCC unless we take to long to secure FBS status. This is just one more school, people. We recruit against 50 better schools and 50 worse schools every year and we've done so for 80+ years. I refuse to believe that one new program is going to utterly doom Appalachian football as most UNCC fans think. They are a drop in the bucket.

We've historically gotten our players from Georgia and SC. Even this year, after Satterfield voiced his commitment to recruiting heavily in our home state, only 3 of 16 recruits this year are from North Carolina.

Move along people, nothing to see here.

[HeffnerIV]

We will not see a noticeable impact on recruiting as a result of UNCC unless we take to long to secure FBS status. This is just one more school, people. We recruit against 50 better schools and 50 worse schools every year and we've done so for 80+ years. I refuse to believe that one new program is going to utterly doom Appalachian football as most UNCC fans think. They are a drop in the bucket.

We've historically gotten our players from Georgia and SC. Even this year, after Satterfield voiced his commitment to recruiting heavily in our home state, only 3 of 16 recruits this year are from North Carolina.

Move along people, nothing to see here.

I write this with the knowledge that Rivals info is not always 100% accurate, but I checked their commit's offers and They didn't sign one recruit that we offered

[ASUMountaineer]

The fact that so many of our fans rip UNCC at every turn tells me that they are really anxious about Charlotte stealing alot of our thunder and competing for the same athletes. I'm no fan of the 49ers and really don't have much knowledge about the school but I find it a bit unseemly that some persist in trashing them at every turn. Seems jealousy at UNCC's good fortunes is behind some of the vitriol.

FWIW, they look to be on the level of ECU.

http://collegeapps.about.com/od/sat/a/n ... na-sat.htm

I don't engage in ripping UNCC at every turn. But, living in Charlotte, I have met several alums and some of them talk more trash about ASU than what you see App fans doing on this board.

The last time I was on UNCC's campus was when ASU played them in basketball. I was there with my wife and their fans were almost as bad as GSU fans (at least GSU is a rival). We were taunted, yelled and cursed at, and not just in the stands (not in the student section), but on our way to the car in the parking deck. Even had a group gather around my Jeep on the way out yelling about how badly ASU sucks.

I don't necessarily have anything against UNCC as an institution, but because of my personal experiences with their fans, I will pull for them to lose every game they play.

Don't misunderstand me. I'm not defending them in anyway. I just don't think we should obsess over them and put them down at every turn because they have something (FBS) we don't at the moment.

I agree. My point was to show that not everyone that disses UNCC does so because they will eventually join CUSA. There are multiple reasons to despise UNCC.

[Yosef84]

So, should the folks at NC State, UNC-CH, UNC-A, and UNC-W look down on us?

In reality folks are focusing on Charlotte's lower SAT scores as a veiled effort to discredit whatever they happen to do on the football field. I never thought that most App fans were elitists.

Amen, Hapapp! I don't know when App adopted such an elitest attitude toward sister institutions. I am as proud of my diploma from App as anyone on this board, and I believe the education that I received was second to none (including UNC). That being said, in 1980 Appalachian had exactly the reputation that many on here are denouncing others for. It was a "backup" option for many of the students who chose it. Even then, we were known for having excellent programs in music, education and a few other areas (not intended to be an exhaustive list), but admission standards (SAT & GPA) were well below those for UNC, NCSU and several others. That gap began closing in the 90's and the gap effectively slammed shut with the increase in apps during our football run (2005 - 2007). We really haven't looked back since.

I know that I have hired UNCC alums here at Bank of America and I've never noticed them being deficient in any way. They have a good business program. They also have a good engineering program and a solid nursing school. Those are the undergrad programs that I have some knowledge about. I just don't see the need to trash another university with these overblown generalizations. I personally consider UNCC to be a peer insititution, and I see us benefiting from improving athletic relations with them....not estranging ourselves. Is their recruiting list inflated? Sure it is, but we don't need to be casting stones. Let's enjoy our own success and meet them on the field sometime soon. That's where these debates should be settled.

Just my two cents.

[Gonzo]

So, should the folks at NC State, UNC-CH, UNC-A, and UNC-W look down on us?

Uh, no. Because all but UNC-CH have lower or similar admission standards....

If you don't hate UNCC fans, you haven't interacted with them on AGS/CSNBBS/Appfan. Now THAT is groundless elitism if I've ever seen it.

[newtoasu]

So, should the folks at NC State, UNC-CH, UNC-A, and UNC-W look down on us?

Deleted.

I misread Gonzo's post!

[1ASU78]

If you have not been on UNCC campus in the last 5 years you should go check it out. They are not the step child of the UNC system any longer. With the plan to add a medical school they will turn out even more deep pockets. Say what you want but they are a threat to us in terms of recruiting in the years to come.

Both in the lecture hall and the arena

[bcoach]

Are you kidding?

We could make a horseshoe with seating on the mountain side and keep it below the trees, deck the East side, add lower seats when the filed is lowered and more seating on the open end where the old field house is. We could get to 40to 50k easily without spoiling the views......

WHEN the field is lowered? I think IF the field is lowered. Removing the track does not guarantee the field will be lowered? Lowering the field is a VERY expensive proposition. There are much cheaper ways of adding seats.

[HeffnerIV]

So, should the folks at NC State, UNC-CH, UNC-A, and UNC-W look down on us?

In reality folks are focusing on Charlotte's lower SAT scores as a veiled effort to discredit whatever they happen to do on the football field. I never thought that most App fans were elitists.

Amen, Hapapp! I don't know when App adopted such an elitest attitude toward sister institutions. I am as proud of my diploma from App as anyone on this board, and I believe the education that I received was second to none (including UNC). That being said, in 1980 Appalachian had exactly the reputation that many on here are denouncing others for. It was a "backup" option for many of the students who chose it. Even then, we were known for having excellent programs in music, education and a few other areas (not intended to be an exhaustive list), but admission standards (SAT & GPA) were well below those for UNC, NCSU and several others. That gap began closing in the 90's and the gap effectively slammed shut with the increase in apps during our football run (2005 - 2007). We really haven't looked back since.

I know that I have hired UNCC alums here at Bank of America and I've never noticed them being deficient in any way. They have a good business program. They also have a good engineering program and a solid nursing school. Those are the undergrad programs that I have some knowledge about. I just don't see the need to trash another university with these overblown generalizations. I personally consider UNCC to be a peer insititution, and I see us benefiting from improving athletic relations with them....not estranging ourselves. Is their recruiting list inflated? Sure it is, but we don't need to be casting stones. Let's enjoy our own success and meet them on the field sometime soon. That's where these debates should be settled.

Just my two cents.

I respect your opinion above, and it's certainly an objective one. However, I hope we operate like we are in competition with every school in the state

[bcoach]

The fact that so many of our fans rip UNCC at every turn tells me that they are really anxious about Charlotte stealing alot of our thunder and competing for the same athletes. I'm no fan of the 49ers and really don't have much knowledge about the school but I find it a bit unseemly that some persist in trashing them at every turn. Seems jealousy at UNCC's good fortunes is behind some of the vitriol.

FWIW, they look to be on the level of ECU.

http://collegeapps.about.com/od/sat/a/n ... na-sat.htm

I don't engage in ripping UNCC at every turn. But, living in Charlotte, I have met several alums and some of them talk more trash about ASU than what you see App fans doing on this board.

The last time I was on UNCC's campus was when ASU played them in basketball. I was there with my wife and their fans were almost as bad as GSU fans (at least GSU is a rival). We were taunted, yelled and cursed at, and not just in the stands (not in the student section), but on our way to the car in the parking deck. Even had a group gather around my Jeep on the way out yelling about how badly ASU sucks.

I don't necessarily have anything against UNCC as an institution, but because of my personal experiences with their fans, I will pull for them to lose every game they play.

And I will tell you that we have had to protect visitors from our fans also.

[Yosef84]

So, should the folks at NC State, UNC-CH, UNC-A, and UNC-W look down on us?

In reality folks are focusing on Charlotte's lower SAT scores as a veiled effort to discredit whatever they happen to do on the football field. I never thought that most App fans were elitists.

Amen, Hapapp! I don't know when App adopted such an elitest attitude toward sister institutions. I am as proud of my diploma from App as anyone on this board, and I believe the education that I received was second to none (including UNC). That being said, in 1980 Appalachian had exactly the reputation that many on here are denouncing others for. It was a "backup" option for many of the students who chose it. Even then, we were known for having excellent programs in music, education and a few other areas (not intended to be an exhaustive list), but admission standards (SAT & GPA) were well below those for UNC, NCSU and several others. That gap began closing in the 90's and the gap effectively slammed shut with the increase in apps during our football run (2005 - 2007). We really haven't looked back since.

I know that I have hired UNCC alums here at Bank of America and I've never noticed them being deficient in any way. They have a good business program. They also have a good engineering program and a solid nursing school. Those are the undergrad programs that I have some knowledge about. I just don't see the need to trash another university with these overblown generalizations. I personally consider UNCC to be a peer insititution, and I see us benefiting from improving athletic relations with them....not estranging ourselves. Is their recruiting list inflated? Sure it is, but we don't need to be casting stones. Let's enjoy our own success and meet them on the field sometime soon. That's where these debates should be settled.

Just my two cents.

I respect your opinions above, and it's certainly an objective one. However, I hope we operate like we are in competition with every school in the state

Of course we are in competition. I completely agree. We compete for students, and in some cases on the athletic field. I just don't think that should include trashing the reputation of the institutions at every opportunity. App can and does compete on the strength of our own programs. There is no need to tear down other institutions.

[HeffnerIV]

So, should the folks at NC State, UNC-CH, UNC-A, and UNC-W look down on us?

In reality folks are focusing on Charlotte's lower SAT scores as a veiled effort to discredit whatever they happen to do on the football field. I never thought that most App fans were elitists.

Amen, Hapapp! I don't know when App adopted such an elitest attitude toward sister institutions. I am as proud of my diploma from App as anyone on this board, and I believe the education that I received was second to none (including UNC). That being said, in 1980 Appalachian had exactly the reputation that many on here are denouncing others for. It was a "backup" option for many of the students who chose it. Even then, we were known for having excellent programs in music, education and a few other areas (not intended to be an exhaustive list), but admission standards (SAT & GPA) were well below those for UNC, NCSU and several others. That gap began closing in the 90's and the gap effectively slammed shut with the increase in apps during our football run (2005 - 2007). We really haven't looked back since.

I know that I have hired UNCC alums here at Bank of America and I've never noticed them being deficient in any way. They have a good business program. They also have a good engineering program and a solid nursing school. Those are the undergrad programs that I have some knowledge about. I just don't see the need to trash another university with these overblown generalizations. I personally consider UNCC to be a peer insititution, and I see us benefiting from improving athletic relations with them....not estranging ourselves. Is their recruiting list inflated? Sure it is, but we don't need to be casting stones. Let's enjoy our own success and meet them on the field sometime soon. That's where these debates should be settled.

Just my two cents.

I respect your opinions above, and it's certainly an objective one. However, I hope we operate like we are in competition with every school in the state

Of course we are in competition. I completely agree. We compete for students, and in some cases on the athletic field. I just don't think that should include trashing the reputation of the institutions at every opportunity. App can and does compete on the strength of our own programs. There is no need to tear down other institutions.

Agreed. We'll do our talking with our performance. I'll say one thing though, and anyone who knows me can attest to my feelings on this, we better start thinking about ways we can help young Apps professionally. In other words, 'keep it in the family' as much as possible!

[JTApps1]

I met a girl that is an English professor at UNCC and App State grad. When I asked about the academics there she laughed and said the curriculum at UNCC is a joke, and she was almost embarrassed that she had to teach such easy classes. She even went as far as to say the courses she taught at CPCC were more demanding than UNCC. To be fair she did say some of the professional college's such as engineering were very good but that’s about it.

At the very least this means they will be able to get some guys in school that we would have no chance of getting through admissions.

[bcoach]

I met a girl that is an English professor at UNCC and App State grad. When I asked about the academics there she laughed and said the curriculum at UNCC is a joke, and she was almost embarrassed that she had to teach such easy classes. She even went as far as to say the courses she taught at CPCC were more demanding than UNCC. To be fair she did say some of the professional college's such as engineering were very good but that’s about it.

At the very least this means they will be able to get some guys in school that we would have no chance of getting through admissions.

It also means she should be fired for the comments she makes about her employer or at the very least have the balls not to cah her paycheck.

[bcoach]

The fact that so many of our fans rip UNCC at every turn tells me that they are really anxious about Charlotte stealing alot of our thunder and competing for the same athletes. I'm no fan of the 49ers and really don't have much knowledge about the school but I find it a bit unseemly that some persist in trashing them at every turn. Seems jealousy at UNCC's good fortunes is behind some of the vitriol.

FWIW, they look to be on the level of ECU.

http://collegeapps.about.com/od/sat/a/n ... na-sat.htm

I don't engage in ripping UNCC at every turn. But, living in Charlotte, I have met several alums and some of them talk more trash about ASU than what you see App fans doing on this board.

The last time I was on UNCC's campus was when ASU played them in basketball. I was there with my wife and their fans were almost as bad as GSU fans (at least GSU is a rival). We were taunted, yelled and cursed at, and not just in the stands (not in the student section), but on our way to the car in the parking deck. Even had a group gather around my Jeep on the way out yelling about how badly ASU sucks.

I don't necessarily have anything against UNCC as an institution, but because of my personal experiences with their fans, I will pull for them to lose every game they play.

Don't misunderstand me. I'm not defending them in anyway. I just don't think we should obsess over them and put them down at every turn because they have something (FBS) we don't at the moment.

Well said. Trying to make them look bad does nothing to make us look better, in fact it does just the opposite.

[goapps93]

I met a girl that is an English professor at UNCC and App State grad. When I asked about the academics there she laughed and said the curriculum at UNCC is a joke, and she was almost embarrassed that she had to teach such easy classes. She even went as far as to say the courses she taught at CPCC were more demanding than UNCC. To be fair she did say some of the professional college's such as engineering were very good but that’s about it.

At the very least this means they will be able to get some guys in school that we would have no chance of getting through admissions.

It also means she should be fired for the comments she makes about her employer or at the very least have the balls not to cah her paycheck.

I think she would be upset with the curriculum in the lower level English classes(should there be such a thing in college?) of many Universities. This country is being dumbed down across the board.

[Gonzo]

I met a girl that is an English professor at UNCC and App State grad. When I asked about the academics there she laughed and said the curriculum at UNCC is a joke, and she was almost embarrassed that she had to teach such easy classes. She even went as far as to say the courses she taught at CPCC were more demanding than UNCC. To be fair she did say some of the professional college's such as engineering were very good but that’s about it.

At the very least this means they will be able to get some guys in school that we would have no chance of getting through admissions.

It also means she should be fired for the comments she makes about her employer or at the very least have the balls not to cah her paycheck.

Utterly ridiculous.