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Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:09 pm
by WVAPPeer

Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:21 pm
by AppSt94
It would be interesting to see how a fiscally strapped program can come up with $50 million exit fee. Donors are possible, but I don't know that the old guard wants to leave the ACC.

Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:59 pm
by HeffnerIV
Makes sense for Maryland. They've been feeling unappreciated for years.

Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:44 pm
by ZTABabyMtnr
A Penn State friend of mine just posted this and I wondered if y'all had seen it. He thinks this makes sense geographically and academically, but the argument becomes whether or not this actually strengthens the conference.

Maryland just axed 7 varsity sports for financial reasons and Rutgers apparently has some hefty athletic debt. Not sure either of them could handle the out fee.

But, as always, interesting speculation... The carousel keeps turning.

Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:01 pm
by sixtoes9134

Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:56 pm
by rbarthle17
ZTABabyMtnr wrote:A Penn State friend of mine just posted this and I wondered if y'all had seen it. He thinks this makes sense geographically and academically, but the argument becomes whether or not this actually strengthens the conference.

Maryland just axed 7 varsity sports for financial reasons and Rutgers apparently has some hefty athletic debt. Not sure either of them could handle the out fee.

But, as always, interesting speculation... The carousel keeps turning.
The MD president just had a press conference and stated explicitly that they WOULD reinstate at least some of the sports they axed, possibly all of them. And they'll have no problem handling the fee. Between the new TV contract and their heavy ties to Under Armour, the cash will be there. Plus word is they plan to try and get the fees dropped some if they can.

Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:43 pm
by AppSt94
If I am in Swoffords shoes, I don't budge off of the exit fee. If you reduce it for the first team out the door, it will allow Fla State to rethink leaving.

Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:50 pm
by appst89
AppSt94 wrote:If I am in Swoffords shoes, I don't budge off of the exit fee. If you reduce it for the first team out the door, it will allow Fla State to rethink leaving.
Yep, the ACC needs to stand its ground. This is the next step toward four sixteen team conferences. I doubt the Big East survives this round, and if the ACC makes it easy for Maryland to leave, then they are going to end up as the weak sister of the remaining four superconferences. They may be destined for that fate anyway, but they really shouldn't make it easy.

Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:24 pm
by Black Saturday
"As The World Turns" in the Country Club. :?

Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:57 pm
by MountainMan
Maryland will try to negotiate first and go to court second. I wouldn't be spending the entire $50 million yet if I'm the ACC.

Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:43 pm
by AppSt94
Yea, I'm sure the lawyers are lining up to argue this but I don't see the legal leg to stand on. There is no precedence to base the argument for a reduction.

Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:51 pm
by MountainMan
I think Maryland's legal position may be somewhat helped since they voted against the increased exit fee, and have now sought to exit the conference in a relatively short time frame. They will start throwing around a laundry list of legal arguments -- restraint of trade, unconscionability, contract of adhesion, blah, blah, blah... and shopping around for a judge that will listen to them, and the ACC may decide that trying to get a portion of the exit fee and moving on is better than getting bogged down in a court case and negative media that could go on for a long time. Plus, the ACC will probably be immediately looking to get someone else to jump ship to join the ACC and may want to help that team avoid/minimize a different exit fee. Should be interesting.

Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:38 am
by AppSt94
I must admit that my legal expertise is limited to Law and Order reruns but this is why I have diminished faith in the legal system. What is the point of comtracts and rules if one can simply argue their way out of it?

Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:27 am
by ASUMountaineer
AppSt94 wrote:I must admit that my legal expertise is limited to Law and Order reruns but this is why I have diminished faith in the legal system. What is the point of comtracts and rules if one can simply argue their way out of it?
I'm not sure they'd find a judge that would rule in favor of Maryland, but a settlement is probably likely. The ACC surely doesn't want to waste time and resources in a legal battle with a school that is leaving, while the ACC wants to add a team quickly. I would suspect Maryland and the ACC to come to some settlement that is close to splitting the difference. That would help Maryland and the ACC, and probably give FSU something to think about.

Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:12 am
by TheMoody1
These conference buyouts sort of remind me of the national debt ceiling. Just words on paper. :twisted:

Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:10 am
by Black Saturday
With APP being small potatoes and not members of the "country club", I wonder if our game with Michigan will get bought out when taking in consideration the Big 10 or whatever their name will have to schedule conference games for 2 more teams :?:

Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:47 pm
by AppSt94
It very likely will be bought out. IMO.

Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:13 pm
by firemoose
http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... ources-say

The thunder in the distance grows a little louder. Not saying this is going to happen but moves are beginning to be made and talked about and schools are starting to position themselves. I posted that the realignment moves could start around now about three months ago, based on talks with some pretty good sources. The timing is almost dead on. Going to get a big bowl of popcorn, sit back, and see where this ride takes us.

Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:46 pm
by bcoach
I find it very interesting that an ACC school had such great money problems that they had to drop 7 sports. There is not enough money in their TV contracts to keep them in business at 15 million a year plus their other income. The big 10 dishes out 24 million. The TV contracts just keep getting bigger and bigger and we think it will never stop. Kind of reminds me of the housing market. prices were never going to stop going up......till they did, and things like that never just stop, they start going down. Funny thing about that, is that the mortgage payments don't go down. Just something to think about.

Re: Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:48 pm
by bcoach
AppSt94 wrote:It very likely will be bought out. IMO.
That would be fine with me. We get to keep that very special day. We avoid all the crap we would take from the blonde jerk on ESPN and we get probably a very large part of the money. Looks like a win,win, win, to me.