They can now finish 7th instead of 9th.

Robert Norton wrote:They can now finish 7th instead of 9th.

Elon fans are even more overjoyed. They finally get a shot at the SoCon Championship.

I'm pretty sure those who are saying "good riddance" and such are either jealous/butt-hurt that we are weakening the SoCon, or, they are glad they won't have to lose to us anymore.

This is exactly why they will always be a bunch of losers...they have no aspiration, no drive. They are excited to now play in a weaker conference, because it may mean they win more. That's a losers mentality. Winners want to play the best and strongest competition.

ASU-FTW wrote:I'm pretty sure those who are saying "good riddance" and such are either jealous/butt-hurt that we are weakening the SoCon, or, they are glad they won't have to lose to us anymore.

The latter.

Robert Norton wrote:They can now finish 7th instead of 9th.

They think our leaving will make it easier to reach the top of the SoCon and then become desirable to FBS conferences. They keep forgetting that all the other teams in the conference also finished above them, so they have to pass them too.

BeauFoster wrote:This is exactly why they will always be a bunch of losers...they have no aspiration, no drive. They are excited to now play in a weaker conference, because it may mean they win more. That's a losers mentality. Winners want to play the best and strongest competition.

I don,'t understand the put down of the SoCon. It was a great home for us. I'm excited about the move, but it makes no sense for most of the SoCon schools to pursue FBS status. It doesn't make them losers. They are where they should be.

hapapp wrote:

BeauFoster wrote:This is exactly why they will always be a bunch of losers...they have no aspiration, no drive. They are excited to now play in a weaker conference, because it may mean they win more. That's a losers mentality. Winners want to play the best and strongest competition.

I don,'t understand the put down of the SoCon. It was a great home for us. I'm excited about the move, but it makes no sense for most of the SoCon schools to pursue FBS status. It doesn't make them losers. They are where they should be.

You're missing my point entirely. The can't fans are excited that the conference got weaker - that's a quote from several on their board. They actually want to play in a conference without the two historically strongest teams, because it means they have a better chance of winning. It's akin to saying that we should drop to DII so that we will dominate. I wasn't bashing the SoCon, I'm bashing their fans for being spineless.

Yeah, the cants arent losers because theyre in the Socon, theyre losers cause they lose.

BeauFoster wrote:

hapapp wrote:

BeauFoster wrote:This is exactly why they will always be a bunch of losers...they have no aspiration, no drive. They are excited to now play in a weaker conference, because it may mean they win more. That's a losers mentality. Winners want to play the best and strongest competition.

I don,'t understand the put down of the SoCon. It was a great home for us. I'm excited about the move, but it makes no sense for most of the SoCon schools to pursue FBS status. It doesn't make them losers. They are where they should be.

You're missing my point entirely. The can't fans are excited that the conference got weaker - that's a quote from several on their board. They actually want to play in a conference without the two historically strongest teams, because it means they have a better chance of winning. It's akin to saying that we should drop to DII so that we will dominate. I wasn't bashing the SoCon, I'm bashing their fans for being spineless.

I think the reactions of the WCU fans are the same as what you get when any relationship ends from a one sided decision. The "injured" party defends what's left of their pride by assuming the position that "I'm glad...didn't like you here anyway." Of course, in the case of the App/WCU relationship (a once great rivalry on the gridiron), the relationship had descended into a one sided thing. WCU has endured public struggles while App has climbed to the top. Let's face it, App fans (particularly on these boards) have treated WCU fans like crap in recent years, and some seem to take every opportunity to rub their nose in their misfortune. All I'm saying is that, if the roles were reversed, we would probably react the same. What would you expect....a tears and begging us not to go?

I have been in favor of this move for a long time. I even saw potential in the SBC before some others were willing to consider it an option. Still, the SoCon has been a good home and I'm proud of our history with the conference. I will continue to follow SoCon sports to some degree and yes....I'll even pull for WCU to climb back to the top. They are a sister school and they now boast a coaching staff that is heavy with App influence (football). Just my two cents worth.

Yosef84 wrote:

BeauFoster wrote:

hapapp wrote:

BeauFoster wrote:This is exactly why they will always be a bunch of losers...they have no aspiration, no drive. They are excited to now play in a weaker conference, because it may mean they win more. That's a losers mentality. Winners want to play the best and strongest competition.

I don,'t understand the put down of the SoCon. It was a great home for us. I'm excited about the move, but it makes no sense for most of the SoCon schools to pursue FBS status. It doesn't make them losers. They are where they should be.

You're missing my point entirely. The can't fans are excited that the conference got weaker - that's a quote from several on their board. They actually want to play in a conference without the two historically strongest teams, because it means they have a better chance of winning. It's akin to saying that we should drop to DII so that we will dominate. I wasn't bashing the SoCon, I'm bashing their fans for being spineless.

I think the reactions of the WCU fans are the same as what you get when any relationship ends from a one sided decision. The "injured" party defends what's left of their pride by assuming the position that "I'm glad...didn't like you here anyway." Of course, in the case of the App/WCU relationship (a once great rivalry on the gridiron), the relationship had descended into a one sided thing. WCU has endured public struggles while App has climbed to the top. Let's face it, App fans (particularly on these boards) have treated WCU fans like crap in recent years, and some seem to take every opportunity to rub their nose in their misfortune. All I'm saying is that, if the roles were reversed, we would probably react the same. What would you expect....a tears and begging us not to go?

I have been in favor of this move for a long time. I even saw potential in the SBC before some others were willing to consider it an option. Still, the SoCon has been a good home and I'm proud of our history with the conference. I will continue to follow SoCon sports to some degree and yes....I'll even pull for WCU to climb back to the top. They are a sister school and they now boast a coaching staff that is heavy with App influence (football). Just my two cents worth.

I'm definitely guilty of the first part and I totally agree on the second one.

Their fans talk just as much crap about App at every opportunity they get. I personally don't care if they never win another game.

Currently one of their posters is trying to get a 'boycott ASU' movement going.

Frankly, I hope they don't come to Boone this year, or ever again, for that matter. Their fans are pathetic, both in person and on message boards, from my experience. Other than 1500 WCU brought (and GSU who is moving with us), no SoCon team ever brought more than a couple of hundred fans anyway. Our attendance is not dependent upon our opponents.

So, I hope his boycott is successful. I may even donate to it myself. The fewer of them that come to Boone, the better I'll like it.

Wouldn't bother me a bit if we never played them in anything again. We can find better regional OOC games in every sport.

Those that are glad we are gone are stupid.
Those that didn't want us to leave are stupid.
I guess those that have no opinion are the only ones with a brain. Well there is us also. Everyone knows we are smarter than the rest of the world.

ASU-FTW wrote:Their fans talk just as much crap about App at every opportunity they get. I personally don't care if they never win another game.

Currently one of their posters is trying to get a 'boycott ASU' movement going.

Their derision of us by the Catamounts doesn't come any where near the magnitude of what MANY Apps pile on them. Some of the App fans make us look like the lowest class fans in the country. App fans used to seem as classy as any other fandom in the country, but the actions of a FEW have tarnished our image in serious way.. I fear we may get our come uppance at least temporarily in FBS.

kiddbrewer wrote:

Yosef84 wrote:

BeauFoster wrote:

hapapp wrote:

BeauFoster wrote:This is exactly why they will always be a bunch of losers...they have no aspiration, no drive. They are excited to now play in a weaker conference, because it may mean they win more. That's a losers mentality. Winners want to play the best and strongest competition.

I don,'t understand the put down of the SoCon. It was a great home for us. I'm excited about the move, but it makes no sense for most of the SoCon schools to pursue FBS status. It doesn't make them losers. They are where they should be.

You're missing my point entirely. The can't fans are excited that the conference got weaker - that's a quote from several on their board. They actually want to play in a conference without the two historically strongest teams, because it means they have a better chance of winning. It's akin to saying that we should drop to DII so that we will dominate. I wasn't bashing the SoCon, I'm bashing their fans for being spineless.

I think the reactions of the WCU fans are the same as what you get when any relationship ends from a one sided decision. The "injured" party defends what's left of their pride by assuming the position that "I'm glad...didn't like you here anyway." Of course, in the case of the App/WCU relationship (a once great rivalry on the gridiron), the relationship had descended into a one sided thing. WCU has endured public struggles while App has climbed to the top. Let's face it, App fans (particularly on these boards) have treated WCU fans like crap in recent years, and some seem to take every opportunity to rub their nose in their misfortune. All I'm saying is that, if the roles were reversed, we would probably react the same. What would you expect....a tears and begging us not to go?

I have been in favor of this move for a long time. I even saw potential in the SBC before some others were willing to consider it an option. Still, the SoCon has been a good home and I'm proud of our history with the conference. I will continue to follow SoCon sports to some degree and yes....I'll even pull for WCU to climb back to the top. They are a sister school and they now boast a coaching staff that is heavy with App influence (football). Just my two cents worth.

I'm definitely guilty of the first part and I totally agree on the second one.

Kudos to you for being one of the few of us who admits it. I've never dissesd WCU. I save my venom for the Phoenix lol

JCline0429 wrote:

ASU-FTW wrote:Their fans talk just as much crap about App at every opportunity they get. I personally don't care if they never win another game.

Currently one of their posters is trying to get a 'boycott ASU' movement going.

Their derision of us by the Catamounts doesn't come any where near the magnitude of what MANY Apps pile on them. Some of the App fans make us look like the lowest class fans in the country. App fans used to seem as classy as any other fandom in the country, but the actions of a FEW have tarnished our image in serious way.. I fear we may get our come uppance at least temporarily in FBS.

You're letting your love of purple cloud your vision. The only reason that it appears that we pile on them is that there are 2000x more App fans active on Internet message boards than wcu fans. TheCats and madhatter (or whatever his name is on AGS) come to mind as two of the biggest App haters (though they could be one in the same).

ASU-FTW wrote:Their fans talk just as much crap about App at every opportunity they get. I personally don't care if they never win another game.

Currently one of their posters is trying to get a 'boycott ASU' movement going.

Boycott, ha. That has nothing but envy written all over it. If it wasn't green envy he would have included Georgia Southern as well. Anyway, I agree I hope they dwell in the cellar for all eternity.

I feel kind of bad for WCU but not the SoCon. I'm proud that we were members of what the SoCon used to represent. The SoCon is going to be gutted and it deserves it. See ya Samford, Elon, Wofford etc. We never really knew ya. Good riddance.

fjblair wrote:I feel kind of bad for WCU but not the SoCon. I'm proud that we were members of what the SoCon used to represent. The SoCon is going to be gutted and it deserves it. See ya Samford, Elon, Wofford etc. We never really knew ya. Good riddance.

Why do you wish the SoCon evil? It did as much for us as we did for them.