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SEC and "vaccination motivation"

Unread post by goapps » Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:44 pm

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-fo ... d3au3vegce

SEC commish may use prospect of forfeiting games to encourage teams to get vaccinated.



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Re: SEC and "vaccination motivation"

Unread post by diehardapp18 » Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:59 pm

Michael Irving said if best: if you don’t get vaccinated you don’t want to win bad enough. It’s that simple.



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Re: SEC and "vaccination motivation"

Unread post by Gonzo » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:30 am

It's simply an enormous competitive liability to have even one unvaccinated player. After what happened to NCSU baseball I don't see why any coach wouldn't have this talk with their players.

Franky, it's the civic duty of every American to get vaccinated, but this is even more clear-cut.



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Re: SEC and "vaccination motivation"

Unread post by mikeyosef » Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:31 pm

Gonzo wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:30 am
It's simply an enormous competitive liability to have even one unvaccinated player. After what happened to NCSU baseball I don't see why any coach wouldn't have this talk with their players.

Franky, it's the civic duty of every American to get vaccinated, but this is even more clear-cut.
I couldn't agree more with either statement. Hopefully the Delta or some other unknown variant won't impact our ability to pack the stadium this season; if it does, it's on the anti-vaxers not the CDC, Public Heath officials or the Governor. Every one of us has the ability to do a simple thing to stop this virus dead in it's tracks.



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Re: SEC and "vaccination motivation"

Unread post by acp » Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:34 pm

I assume that if games aren’t played, ticket holders receive refunds. Is that accurate?

If so, athletic departments will have an incentive to get players vaccinated.



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Re: SEC and "vaccination motivation"

Unread post by mike87 » Tue Jul 20, 2021 7:23 pm

Please stop.



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Re: SEC and "vaccination motivation"

Unread post by Gonzo » Tue Jul 20, 2021 8:08 pm

mike87 wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 7:23 pm
Please stop.
Stop what? This is probably the most important detail of the 2021 football season. We can either listen to the unanimous recommendation of doctors and immunologists around the world and opt-in to 21st century society as a team or we can spiral in uncertainty just like we did 2020, pre-vaccine. It’s a choice. And if we don’t make the right one it’s on the coaches and players.



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Re: SEC and "vaccination motivation"

Unread post by hAPPy4APP » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:19 pm

diehardapp18 wrote:
Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:59 pm
Michael Irving said if best: if you don’t get vaccinated you don’t want to win bad enough. It’s that simple.
Thats an absurd statement and its not that simple. NOONE should be threatened or coerced into getting a vaccine. Its a personal choice about a vaccine that still has many questionmarks. If I had son I would encourage him to leave the university before getting the vaccine under duress.
Getting the vaccine is not a civic duty. Its a personal decision to make up ones own mind ot be one of the sheep. Some things are bigger than football. Forced vaccination is one of them.



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Unread post by Saint3333 » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:16 pm

Imagine wearing a seat belt when you’re walking down the street.



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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:36 am

" If I had son I would encourage him to leave the university before getting the vaccine under duress. Getting the vaccine is not a civic duty. Its a personal decision to make up ones own mind ot be one of the sheep. Some things are bigger than football. Forced vaccination is one of them."

If you a part of a team on the college level, you don't have an absolute right to be on that team, and in the simplest of terms players are "sheep" - Players don't make the rules and if you don't want to adhere to the rules then leave. Simple solution for you and your son (by the way, most parents send their kids to college for many reasons, including "growing up" and making their own decisions) - Yes, you and your son can choose to not get the vaccine - Some schools are requiring for all students (unless there are medical issues) so find a place where a place where no vacs are required and watch good football on tv.


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Re: SEC and "vaccination motivation"

Unread post by Gonzo » Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:39 am

GeTtInG a VaCcInE UnDeR DuReSs

“REQUIRED IMMUNIZATIONS [to attend App State]

Tetanus: 3 doses from anytime in your life. The following also applies:
A dose of a tetanus vaccination containing pertussis is required after age 10.
The usual abbreviation for the adult tetanus, diphtheria and pertussis (whooping cough) vaccine in the US is Tdap.
Brands in the USA: Boostrix and Adacel (Also Revaxis in Europe)
Measles: 2 doses given after the student’s first birthday and at least a month apart.
Mumps: 2 doses given after the student’s first birthday and at least a month apart.
Rubella: 1 dose after the student’s first birthday.
(An official lab report may be substituted for the measles, mumps or rubella requirements.)
This lab report should contain: See above for the requirements on an official lab report
Hepatitis B: 3 doses are required for students born after June 30, 1994.
NC law does not allow a lab report showing immunity to fulfill this requirement.
Dose #3 should be administered after 6 months of age
The preferred schedule for these is at day 0, 1 month and 6 months
Polio: 3 doses. This applies only if the student is younger than 18 years of age.
Tuberculosis: One of the following within 12 months prior to the first day of class is indicated to fulfill this requirement:
A negative tuberculosis skin test (TST), recorded in mm.
official lab report of a negative IGRA(Interferon-Gamma Release Assay)(quanteferon gold)
See above for the requirements on an official lab report
a radiologist report of a Chest X Ray indicating no signs of active or latent tuberculosis.
See above for the requirements on an official lab report”

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Re: SEC and "vaccination motivation"

Unread post by Saint3333 » Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:50 am

Curious where you stand in all ages getting the vaccine? Should 8 year olds get the vaccine?



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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:33 am

Personally, I am not in favor of young kids getting the shot right now - I don't think there has been enough testing and clinical trials at this point - This thread is about COLLEGE athletes ---


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Re: SEC and "vaccination motivation"

Unread post by TheMoody1 » Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:44 am

WVAPPeer wrote:
Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:33 am
I don't think there has been enough testing and clinical trials at this point -
That is how many feel about the FDA emergency use covid vaccines.



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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:54 am

Again - this is supposed to be about COLLEGE ATHLETES -


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Re: SEC and "vaccination motivation"

Unread post by Gonzo » Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:01 am

None of our players are 8.

And full FDA approval is imminent.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/01/opin ... roval.html

The Pfizer and Moderna vaccine roll out has been so vast we have an absolutely enormous data pool at this point. The conclusion is unequivocal.


I understood the trepidation in February to a certain extent. That position is unreasonable at this point. And will be down right nutty once the full FDA approval comes through.



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Re: SEC and "vaccination motivation"

Unread post by Saint3333 » Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:54 am

I’m looking to find common ground. Sounds like we can agree at a certain age the risk of disease doesn’t warrant a vaccine. Where we differ is where is that cut off.

People under 25 without pre-existing conditions are very low risk. I think we can agree there as well.

Some believe in and consistently apply a risk based approach to the vaccine. I’ve applied that for my personal situation.



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Re: SEC and "vaccination motivation"

Unread post by Yosef10 » Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:06 am

Saint3333 wrote:
Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:54 am
I’m looking to find common ground. Sounds like we can agree at a certain age the risk of disease doesn’t warrant a vaccine. Where we differ is where is that cut off.

People under 25 without pre-existing conditions are very low risk. I think we can agree there as well.

Some believe in and consistently apply a risk based approach to the vaccine. I’ve applied that for my personal situation.
You obviously straddle the anti-vax line pretty closely. Your personal feelings aside, no matter how wrong they are, it is in every App football fan and players best interest for the team to have as high a vaccination rate as possible. Nick Saban said Bama is at 90% today. If App wants to operate at a championship level then the rate needs to be similar. I have a feeling it is not.



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Re: SEC and "vaccination motivation"

Unread post by McLeansvilleAppFan » Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:26 am

Gonzo wrote:
Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:01 am
None of our players are 8.

And full FDA approval is imminent.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/01/opin ... roval.html

The Pfizer and Moderna vaccine roll out has been so vast we have an absolutely enormous data pool at this point. The conclusion is unequivocal.


I understood the trepidation in February to a certain extent. That position is unreasonable at this point. And will be down right nutty once the full FDA approval comes through.
Is it too early to place bets on what the next moving target will be for the anti-vaxxers? If we don't get more vaccinated this Delta variant is going to get out of hand and have implications for college sports this coming academic year.


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