Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

[AppStFan1]

https://www.dnronline.com/sports/colleg ... 212ba.html

Further evidence that ULM needs to go. Clearly there is no plan to align their interests with the others in the conference. They are going in an opposite direction from the conference. That is not in the spirit of “Rise Together”.

We need schools who help the league as a whole and I agree with you they are just looking out for their own. I am not sure why Gill is proposing them and I am glad our leaders are asking for hard data that proves LT would be a good add. I would much rather add Ohio if we are going to add someone. I would prefer waiting until 2030-2031 before we do anything though.

[spacemonkey]

I mentioned Ohio early. I like that they are a college town. I wish/hope the SBC can keep heading down the college town path. I would love to trade Georgia St for ECU. Georgia State and Charlotte deserve each other. JMU/Marshall/App/ECU/OHIO/Louisiana/Southern Miss/Troy/Georgia Southern. I really like OHIO added for Wrestling.

[Saint3333]

Ohio > LA Tech

[BallantyneApp]

I'd take Ohio over La Tech but I'd prefer to stay at 13 over any current candidate.

Any indication of what our administration is thinking?

[JTApps1]

Ohio > LA Tech

Ohio also > WKU

[BambooRdApp]

When I wake up on GameDay, none of the 3 get me excited about going to see the opponent. Although there is pressure to do something, patience may be best course of action. Who knows, something may come our way that is intriguing to App. St. versus adding to the conference.
Although I like our conference for now given travel not too bad, not moving needle on TV money. Although it may be difficult (at the moment) to get a better team due to conference buyouts, I prefer going upstream to get a better team. If not, hold for now and see how things play out as none of the three are great selections. Just my humble opinion.

[ASUFan4863]

10 of the 13 have to agree and that could be a major issue for ULM and La Tech.

[AppSt94]

When I wake up on GameDay, none of the 3 get me excited about going to see the opponent. Although there is pressure to do something, patience may be best course of action. Who knows, something may come our way that is intriguing to App. St. versus adding to the conference.
Although I like our conference for now given travel not too bad, not moving needle on TV money. Although it may be difficult (at the moment) to get a better team due to conference buyouts, I prefer going upstream to get a better team. If not, hold for now and see how things play out as none of the three are great selections. Just my humble opinion.

Who do you see as a worthy invitee given the geographic footprint of the conference? I honestly don’t know that anyone that’s available is going to move the money needle exponentially.

[AtlAppMan]

When I wake up on GameDay, none of the 3 get me excited about going to see the opponent. Although there is pressure to do something, patience may be best course of action. Who knows, something may come our way that is intriguing to App. St. versus adding to the conference.
Although I like our conference for now given travel not too bad, not moving needle on TV money. Although it may be difficult (at the moment) to get a better team due to conference buyouts, I prefer going upstream to get a better team. If not, hold for now and see how things play out as none of the three are great selections. Just my humble opinion.

Who do you see as a worthy invitee given the geographic footprint of the conference? I honestly don’t know that anyone that’s available is going to move the money needle exponentially.

Ditto! So stay put until we can get schools we want that do move the needle. This is not going to be the last chance IMO. More changes will come in upcoming years due to tv contracts expiring. That will change the schools attitudes towards joining the SBC.

[BambooRdApp]

When I wake up on GameDay, none of the 3 get me excited about going to see the opponent. Although there is pressure to do something, patience may be best course of action. Who knows, something may come our way that is intriguing to App. St. versus adding to the conference.
Although I like our conference for now given travel not too bad, not moving needle on TV money. Although it may be difficult (at the moment) to get a better team due to conference buyouts, I prefer going upstream to get a better team. If not, hold for now and see how things play out as none of the three are great selections. Just my humble opinion.

Who do you see as a worthy invitee given the geographic footprint of the conference? I honestly don’t know that anyone that’s available is going to move the money needle exponentially.

Probably none move the TV needle. Those teams moved to Big 12.
My perfect option is ECU. That is a personal preference. May not move TV ..but keeps regional team. Screws up current East/West current set up. But gets me excited for GameDay.
Similar related to personal preference...army, navy (realize they are probably a package deal), Memphis.
No one in cusa is attractive.

[AppSt94]

When I wake up on GameDay, none of the 3 get me excited about going to see the opponent. Although there is pressure to do something, patience may be best course of action. Who knows, something may come our way that is intriguing to App. St. versus adding to the conference.
Although I like our conference for now given travel not too bad, not moving needle on TV money. Although it may be difficult (at the moment) to get a better team due to conference buyouts, I prefer going upstream to get a better team. If not, hold for now and see how things play out as none of the three are great selections. Just my humble opinion.

Who do you see as a worthy invitee given the geographic footprint of the conference? I honestly don’t know that anyone that’s available is going to move the money needle exponentially.

Probably none move the TV needle. Those teams moved to Big 12.
My perfect option is ECU. That is a personal preference. May not move TV ..but keeps regional team. Screws up current East/West current set up. But gets me excited for GameDay.
Similar related to personal preference...army, navy (realize they are probably a package deal), Memphis.
No one in cusa is attractive.

ECU makes sense for selfish reasons but I discount any AAC school at this point simply because the exit fees aren’t worth it to them. Adding an East team isn’t a difficult problem to address. You can slide Gag St to the west. Troy is closer than Statesboro and South Alabama is closer to Atlanta than either App or Conway.

[AppWyo]

When I wake up on GameDay, none of the 3 get me excited about going to see the opponent. Although there is pressure to do something, patience may be best course of action. Who knows, something may come our way that is intriguing to App. St. versus adding to the conference.
Although I like our conference for now given travel not too bad, not moving needle on TV money. Although it may be difficult (at the moment) to get a better team due to conference buyouts, I prefer going upstream to get a better team. If not, hold for now and see how things play out as none of the three are great selections. Just my humble opinion.

Who do you see as a worthy invitee given the geographic footprint of the conference? I honestly don’t know that anyone that’s available is going to move the money needle exponentially.

Probably none move the TV needle. Those teams moved to Big 12.
My perfect option is ECU. That is a personal preference. May not move TV ..but keeps regional team. Screws up current East/West current set up. But gets me excited for GameDay.
Similar related to personal preference...army, navy (realize they are probably a package deal), Memphis.
No one in cusa is attractive.

ECU makes sense for selfish reasons but I discount any AAC school at this point simply because the exit fees aren’t worth it to them. Adding an East team isn’t a difficult problem to address. You can slide Gag St to the west. Troy is closer than Statesboro and South Alabama is closer to Atlanta than either App or Conway.

Originally, USA and Troy were in the SBC East. I would really like for all of the SBC East teams to be in the Eastern Time Zone and all the SBC West teams to be in the Central Time Zone.

Instead of getting one team to replace Texas State, I would like to see the SBC add three teams.

[BambooRdApp]

When I wake up on GameDay, none of the 3 get me excited about going to see the opponent. Although there is pressure to do something, patience may be best course of action. Who knows, something may come our way that is intriguing to App. St. versus adding to the conference.
Although I like our conference for now given travel not too bad, not moving needle on TV money. Although it may be difficult (at the moment) to get a better team due to conference buyouts, I prefer going upstream to get a better team. If not, hold for now and see how things play out as none of the three are great selections. Just my humble opinion.

Who do you see as a worthy invitee given the geographic footprint of the conference? I honestly don’t know that anyone that’s available is going to move the money needle exponentially.

Probably none move the TV needle. Those teams moved to Big 12.
My perfect option is ECU. That is a personal preference. May not move TV ..but keeps regional team. Screws up current East/West current set up. But gets me excited for GameDay.
Similar related to personal preference...army, navy (realize they are probably a package deal), Memphis.
No one in cusa is attractive.

ECU makes sense for selfish reasons but I discount any AAC school at this point simply because the exit fees aren’t worth it to them. Adding an East team isn’t a difficult problem to address. You can slide Gag St to the west. Troy is closer than Statesboro and South Alabama is closer to Atlanta than either App or Conway.

Originally, USA and Troy were in the SBC East. I would really like for all of the SBC East teams to be in the Eastern Time Zone and all the SBC West teams to be in the Central Time Zone.

Instead of getting one team to replace Texas State, I would like to see the SBC add three teams.

Agree 100%
Championship game has two teams that have not played each other in regular season.
If I recall, one year we played troy or la-la and a couple of weeks later played them again in championship game

[Stonewall]

The more schools the less the share of revenue each one receives. We need fewer, not more. Nine schools. Eight conference games in football, four and four. Sixteen basketball, eight and eight. Twenty four baseball, twelve and twelve.Down the line. Easy tournament brackets. In the most compact geographic area possible. When the current TV contract ends . The current Sunbelt East Division plus the two best available. The West can do the same. Save money and make money.

[AppWyo]

The more schools the less the share of revenue each one receives. We need fewer, not more. Nine schools. Eight conference games in football, four and four. Sixteen basketball, eight and eight. Twenty four baseball, twelve and twelve.Down the line. Easy tournament brackets. In the most compact geographic area possible. When the current TV contract ends . The current Sunbelt East Division plus the two best available. The West can do the same. Save money and make money.

It is all part of the master plan, when the SBC becomes eighteen teams, then the EAST and WEST break off and form two conferences with their own tv deals. They still play a championship game against each other in football. The SBC East West Twins become the most popular conference in the world and each team playing in the championship game gets an automatic berth in the CFP on opposite sides of the bracket.

So, I guess the SBC needs to add a total of five teams...

[JTApps1]

The more schools the less the share of revenue each one receives. We need fewer, not more. Nine schools. Eight conference games in football, four and four. Sixteen basketball, eight and eight. Twenty four baseball, twelve and twelve.Down the line. Easy tournament brackets. In the most compact geographic area possible. When the current TV contract ends . The current Sunbelt East Division plus the two best available. The West can do the same. Save money and make money.

Why not add LT now knowing a split could take place in four or five years? Our distributions will stay the same compared to Texas State still being here, and it won't prevent us from more moves in the future. The only other scenario I see is adding someone closer to the East that would eventually split off with us. Not sure the West would agree to a solo add like Ohio though since they don't really want WKU who is much closer.

[T-Dog]

I'm perfectly fine with LaTech. The west members did the east a solid in adding ODU, JMU and Marshall in exchange for SoMiss. If this helps them sell some tickets out of pure hatred, go for it. Worked for the east.

IMO, trading Sun Belt Texas State for LaTech isn't a downgrade. Outside of track and such, Texas State was never a needle mover in the Sun Belt. Maybe the Pac-12 move can wake up the sleeping giant they claim to be but never have been.

[moonshine]

If the SBC is hellbent on adding now, let the west pick latech as the bulldogs immediately bring bad blood rivalries of which the SBC is now built.

Personally, I prefer to stay at 13 and see how things unfold with the AAC media deal. If they lose some combination of Memphis, Tulane, USF or UTSA, I would assume this triggers a renegotiation that could see the legacy members’ shares cut in half equaling CUSA6’s current payout. The AAC media deal could crater further if the academies go back to being Independent due to the American losing its remaining top brands. These dominos could find the Shockers’ bball program searching for an escape hatch as well.

Throw in a modest increase to the SBC media deal and a situation like this would have to make ECU really think about swallowing their pride to slum with us. I read on boneyard (so take this for what it’s worth) a few weeks back that the Pirates spend ~$4m more annually on travel compared to App. And for what? A 1 bid bball league moving forward especially once Memphis, and potentially WSU, depart.

I guess everyone on the east coast is hoping they get a call from the ACC after they lose their top teams to the P2.

[Bootsy]

Back to ULM…is there any reasonable way to get them out of the SBC? Or would that take an alignment of the moon and stars to happen?

[t4pizza]

I'm perfectly fine with LaTech. The west members did the east a solid in adding ODU, JMU and Marshall in exchange for SoMiss. If this helps them sell some tickets out of pure hatred, go for it. Worked for the east.

IMO, trading Sun Belt Texas State for LaTech isn't a downgrade. Outside of track and such, Texas State was never a needle mover in the Sun Belt. Maybe the Pac-12 move can wake up the sleeping giant they claim to be but never have been.

I was against the idea of La Tech but this post has changed my mind. You make some really valid points, thanks for ideas. We should add La Tech, they are no worse than what we are losing and the proximity to other west schools may increase attendance, good logic. I am now on board with adding La Tech.