App State to the Sun Belt

[bcoach]

If everybody is so innovative and thinks that App State is copying what other universities have already done, then come up with something on your own. Yes, we may (or may not) be getting grey uniforms, but what's so wrong with that? Just because another school has black uniforms, does that mean we cannot? We are evolving to fit the times, and to draw in the recruits and crowds, so that's a good thing to me. Anyways, the grey uniforms usually look really great, and none of them look the same, so I believe that App State can pull them off, while also reinventing them next year while we are doing away with ASU and going solely to App State and Appalachian State.

Something I think should be brought up that is off topic, but does anybody think the MAC is considering inviting App State to join? I'm all for the Sun Belt, but geographically, the MAC would make more sense. I could see App and JMU going in together, if JMU was ready, which I don't think they are.

Well there is no need to come up with something. We have something. We didn't wear jeans and tee shirts last year. As far as grey goes, what the heck does that have to do with our school colors? Maybe we shouldn't have school colors any more. Maybe we could have a different color uni each week. Then we could have both teams come out of the same place and have a contest. See who can guess which team is ours.

Yes, we may have something, but we are rebranding. What's wrong with using something different that what we have? I understand the tradition argument, but we can't always wait for tradition. Just because we are possibly using grey uniforms does not mean that we are ripping off every other school that has had a grey uniform. Having a grey uniform is not like using a blue uniform, or a red uniform. Grey is a neutral color, a mix between black and white. What's so bad about grey? I don't get it. If you think we're losing our identity because of grey uniforms, then you should probably petition Appalachian State for getting rid of the retro Yosef at the end of the year too.

You don't have to wait for tradition as it is already there or it would not be tradition. What's so bad about grey? Well for one thing it just does not have anything to do with us.

[8993]

You don't have to wait for tradition as it is already there or it would not be tradition. What's so bad about grey? Well for one thing it just does not have anything to do with us.[/quote]

And what does it have to do with West Virginia's blue and yellow? Or South Carolina's red and black? Or Wyoming's brown and gold? Nothing, but they still pull it off. I know that tradition is there, but if you stick with the same uniforms year after year, people will get bored. They're switching it up, and that's a good thing. Grey might not be one of our colors, but it definitely isn't from left field either. If we had red uniforms, or green uniforms, I'd be totally lost, but grey, not so much. I would also like to point out the the current Appalachian Mountaineers logo and the Mountaineer head both contain grey elements. If I'm not mistaken, Yosef's pants are also grey.

[GlassOnion]

Havent heard this argument before: "Everyone else is doing it."

[ASUGoose]

As long as it helps with recruiting, I could care less what colors are on the jersey. This definitely has to be a Satterfield call here and as we all know Jerry wouldn't do this if he was still coaching. We have to adapt with times and apparently the kids like these new uniforms.

The argument about Michigan, ND, OSU having established brands does not apply to App State. We are not even in the same league as these schools. To set expectations that we should establish a brand similar to these schools by not changing our approach is setting ourselves up for failure. I'm glad to see Satt taking chances and thinking outside the box here as we need every advantage we can get especially with the pending move to FBS.

[bcoach]

PLEASE tell me we are all screwing with each other. PLEASE tell me each of us is just trying to pull each others chains a little harder each time. PLEASE tell me these big brave football players are not picking schools based on the color of their uniforms. PLEASE tell me we didn't lose a 325 lb defensive lineman because the color of our jerseys didn't go with his eyes.

[hapapp]

PLEASE tell me we are all screwing with each other. PLEASE tell me each of us is just trying to pull each others chains a little harder each time. PLEASE tell me these big brave football players are not picking schools based on the color of their uniforms. PLEASE tell me we didn't lose a 325 lb defensive lineman because the color of our jerseys didn't go with his eyes.

I guess I should throw away my grey sweatshirts with ASU on them.

I despise those new Adidas basketball uniforms. But the players love them. Every year when break out the alternate jersey the players apparently really like them. If we wear them once or twice I hardly believe Yosef would commit suicide.

[appbio91]

I hate doing things like this that have already been done. Like Boise's smurf turf, then came a bunch of posers.

We need to separate App from the others, not follow them. We need our own brand.

I don't know dude, put a matte black helmet on the WV uni and that would look pretty damn good.

[bcoach]

PLEASE tell me we are all screwing with each other. PLEASE tell me each of us is just trying to pull each others chains a little harder each time. PLEASE tell me these big brave football players are not picking schools based on the color of their uniforms. PLEASE tell me we didn't lose a 325 lb defensive lineman because the color of our jerseys didn't go with his eyes.

I guess I should throw away my grey sweatshirts with ASU on them.

I despise those new Adidas basketball uniforms. But the players love them. Every year when break out the alternate jersey the players apparently really like them. If we wear them once or twice I hardly believe Yosef would commit suicide.

"I guess I should throw away my grey sweatshirts with ASU on them." I don't know, what color are your eyes?

[GlassOnion]

I don't know dude, put a matte black helmet on the WV uni and that would look pretty damn good.

Duuude.

[fjblair]

PLEASE tell me we are all screwing with each other. PLEASE tell me each of us is just trying to pull each others chains a little harder each time. PLEASE tell me these big brave football players are not picking schools based on the color of their uniforms. PLEASE tell me we didn't lose a 325 lb defensive lineman because the color of our jerseys didn't go with his eyes.

I know. This is un-******* real. Talk about jumping the shark.

[mtnjax]

Screw the Grey unis...WHEN ARE WE GETTING ALL YELLOW!!!

[AppAttack]

This should have been a separate thread. Thanks to whomever hijacked it.

[8993]

Back to what I said a while ago:

App State to the MAC... would that be a better fit for us? I know that the Sun Belt move is nearly done, if not already done, but the MAC would be interesting.

[appst89]

Back to what I said a while ago:

App State to the MAC... would that be a better fit for us? I know that the Sun Belt move is nearly done, if not already done, but the MAC would be interesting.

If it were an option, the MAC would be my choice because those schools are more like us academically, but I don't think it is an option.

[bcoach]

Back to what I said a while ago:

App State to the MAC... would that be a better fit for us? I know that the Sun Belt move is nearly done, if not already done, but the MAC would be interesting.

If it were an option, the MAC would be my choice because those schools are more like us academically, but I don't think it is an option.

Honest question. What does academics have to do with an athletic conference. I hear that over and over and don't understand it.

[appst89]

Back to what I said a while ago:

App State to the MAC... would that be a better fit for us? I know that the Sun Belt move is nearly done, if not already done, but the MAC would be interesting.

If it were an option, the MAC would be my choice because those schools are more like us academically, but I don't think it is an option.

Honest question. What does academics have to do with an athletic conference. I hear that over and over and don't understand it.

The schhols we associate with define us to a large extent. The MAC contains several schools against which we measure ourselves on a regular basis. If we know the schools are more like us then we know we are playing on a level field when it comes to athletics. That's the gist of it for me. Others may have different opinions.

[wb247]

Honest question. What does academics have to do with an athletic conference. I hear that over and over and don't understand it.

You can also take a look at the situation in the Big 10, where they have what they call a research consortium that may share more grants and other money between the schools than the athletics contracts. That's in addition to opportunities for joint research and for students/professors to seamlessly visit other campuses to further learning and/or teaching.

[JCline0429]

Back to what I said a while ago:

App State to the MAC... would that be a better fit for us? I know that the Sun Belt move is nearly done, if not already done, but the MAC would be interesting.

If it were an option, the MAC would be my choice because those schools are more like us academically, but I don't think it is an option.

Honest question. What does academics have to do with an athletic conference. I hear that over and over and don't understand it.

One reason, bcoach is that we want to be on a level playing field when competing with other schools academically. If their admissions requirements are more lenient than ours, then they can recruit players we would not be able to admit.

[asutrnr81]

Back to what I said a while ago:

App State to the MAC... would that be a better fit for us? I know that the Sun Belt move is nearly done, if not already done, but the MAC would be interesting.

If it were an option, the MAC would be my choice because those schools are more like us academically, but I don't think it is an option.

Honest question. What does academics have to do with an athletic conference. I hear that over and over and don't understand it.

One reason, bcoach is that we want to be on a level playing field when competing with other schools academically. If their admissions requirements are more lenient than ours, then they can recruit players we would not be able to admit.

REally JC? The real reason the MAC would be a better fit is: (drum roll please)....

The Grey Uniforms would blend in with their gray weather for most of the season and obviously make us more potent offensively because we would be harder to see.

The real reason the SB would NOT be a better fit is: (drum roll please).....

We do not have the professional schools that many of them have.....just from lack of numbers of state universities in their states. The law schools, and med schools can't be too spread out in...and we do not have either!

[Saint3333]

Academically App is more like MAC schools, culturally we are more like Belt schools.

The Belt with the two GSU's and WkU (for now) makes more sense financially.