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Re: Sun Belt presidents to vote Monday on Louisiana Tech

Unread post by AppWyo » Sat Jul 12, 2025 10:18 pm

La Tech has listed their rivals as: Louisiana, Louisiana Monroe, Northwestern State, and USM.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana ... ll_rivalry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana ... ll_rivalry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana ... ll_rivalry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivalry_in_Dixie

I think that ULM, USM, and Louisiana want them in the conference, so they have no excuse not to play them every year and exact some vengeance on them. I really do believe that La Tech is one of those schools that everyone loves to hate. Why? I would like to know.

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Re: Sun Belt presidents to vote Monday on Louisiana Tech

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:03 am

AppWyo wrote:
Sat Jul 12, 2025 10:18 pm
La Tech has listed their rivals as: Louisiana, Louisiana Monroe, Northwestern State, and USM.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana ... ll_rivalry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana ... ll_rivalry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana ... ll_rivalry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivalry_in_Dixie

I think that ULM, USM, and Louisiana want them in the conference, so they have no excuse not to play them every year and exact some vengeance on them. I really do believe that La Tech is one of those schools that everyone loves to hate. Why? I would like to know.
This is why they hate them. Tech thought they were better than the SBC
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Re: Sun Belt presidents to vote Monday on Louisiana Tech

Unread post by hapapp » Sun Jul 13, 2025 5:42 am

BambooRdApp wrote:
Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:03 am
AppWyo wrote:
Sat Jul 12, 2025 10:18 pm
La Tech has listed their rivals as: Louisiana, Louisiana Monroe, Northwestern State, and USM.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana ... ll_rivalry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana ... ll_rivalry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana ... ll_rivalry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivalry_in_Dixie

I think that ULM, USM, and Louisiana want them in the conference, so they have no excuse not to play them every year and exact some vengeance on them. I really do believe that La Tech is one of those schools that everyone loves to hate. Why? I would like to know.
This is why they hate them. Tech thought they were better than the SBC
Previous Sun Belt Experience: Louisiana Tech was previously a Sun Belt member from 1991 to 2001.
We did too at one time.

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Re: Sun Belt presidents to vote Monday on Louisiana Tech

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:17 am

hapapp wrote:
Sun Jul 13, 2025 5:42 am
BambooRdApp wrote:
Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:03 am
AppWyo wrote:
Sat Jul 12, 2025 10:18 pm
La Tech has listed their rivals as: Louisiana, Louisiana Monroe, Northwestern State, and USM.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana ... ll_rivalry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana ... ll_rivalry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana ... ll_rivalry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivalry_in_Dixie

I think that ULM, USM, and Louisiana want them in the conference, so they have no excuse not to play them every year and exact some vengeance on them. I really do believe that La Tech is one of those schools that everyone loves to hate. Why? I would like to know.
This is why they hate them. Tech thought they were better than the SBC
Previous Sun Belt Experience: Louisiana Tech was previously a Sun Belt member from 1991 to 2001.
We did too at one time.
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Big difference. We did not divorce from SBC.
I do not have positive or negative thoughts... other than it seems a drop from Texas st. We already have La market. Lost any of Texas market we may have had
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Re: Sun Belt presidents to vote Monday on Louisiana Tech

Unread post by JTApps1 » Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:12 am

I just don't think Texas State was all that valuable either. I think it's basically a wash except we lost an outlier.

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Re: Sun Belt presidents to vote Monday on Louisiana Tech

Unread post by AppWyo » Sun Jul 13, 2025 12:04 pm

JTApps1 wrote:
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I just don't think Texas State was all that valuable either. I think it's basically a wash except we lost an outlier.
I think the new PAC got a pig in the poke.

I really do not think Texas State has been relevant since 2005. The last two years were good, but that all may change once their coach moves to another school or some scandal rocks their program.

However, the competition in the new PAC may not compare to that of the SBC and Texas State dominates the PAC. That would be awesome!

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Re: Sun Belt presidents to vote Monday on Louisiana Tech

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Sun Jul 13, 2025 12:31 pm

AppWyo wrote:
Sun Jul 13, 2025 12:04 pm
JTApps1 wrote:
Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:12 am
I just don't think Texas State was all that valuable either. I think it's basically a wash except we lost an outlier.
I think the new PAC got a pig in the poke.

I really do not think Texas State has been relevant since 2005. The last two years were good, but that all may change once their coach moves to another school or some scandal rocks their program.

However, the competition in the new PAC may not compare to that of the SBC and Texas State dominates the PAC. That would be awesome!
If Texas St does well in PAC conference, it is due to coaching and nil. The current coach has done a good job and they have been active in the portal.
The PAC will be comparable to the SBC in my opinion.
It will be interesting to see how the state of the athletic programs evolve at Washington St and Oregon St as more distance from a Power conference is in the rearview mirror.
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Re: Sun Belt presidents to vote Monday on Louisiana Tech

Unread post by T-Dog » Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:24 pm

Idaho has more 9 win season while in the Sun Belt than Texas State. In fact, Texas State needs to win 9 games this fall, more than they've ever won in a single Sun Belt season, to leave with a better winning percentage than Idaho.

Texas State has won a couple basketball regular season titles, baseball has been up and down, softball has mostly been good, but overall is still that "sleeping giant" that everyone claims them to be.

I'm fine with LaTech. Not overjoyed, not mad.

One positive is that App State doesn't lose a bus trip starting in 2026-27, because scheduling with 13 teams is a lot more difficult. And the Georgia schools were adamant about staying in the East scheduling bloc.

WKU wasn't happening. Ohio was more of a tire kicking for the future.

People who are making arguments against LaTech, especially in the East, are projecting the thought that they're better than the Sun Belt. and their school (whether it be App, Marshall, JMU, etc) should move up to whatever that is.

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Re: Sun Belt presidents to vote Monday on Louisiana Tech

Unread post by Saint3333 » Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:28 pm

Better than the SBC west and I think you’re correct.

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Re: Sun Belt presidents to vote Monday on Louisiana Tech

Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:42 pm

The west has their Coastal type school now.

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Re: Sun Belt presidents to vote Monday on Louisiana Tech

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sun Jul 13, 2025 3:19 pm

T-Dog wrote:
Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:24 pm
Idaho has more 9 win season while in the Sun Belt than Texas State. In fact, Texas State needs to win 9 games this fall, more than they've ever won in a single Sun Belt season, to leave with a better winning percentage than Idaho.

Texas State has won a couple basketball regular season titles, baseball has been up and down, softball has mostly been good, but overall is still that "sleeping giant" that everyone claims them to be.

I'm fine with LaTech. Not overjoyed, not mad.

One positive is that App State doesn't lose a bus trip starting in 2026-27, because scheduling with 13 teams is a lot more difficult. And the Georgia schools were adamant about staying in the East scheduling bloc.

WKU wasn't happening. Ohio was more of a tire kicking for the future.

People who are making arguments against LaTech, especially in the East, are projecting the thought that they're better than the Sun Belt. and their school (whether it be App, Marshall, JMU, etc) should move up to whatever that is.
I think you are right about why some are projecting their school is better than Sun Belt but are they wrong? Look at the SBC history. The schools with the longest tenure were part of the league when it was considered the worst in FBS. The league added Troy because it was a powerhouse and they thought it would raise the SBC a little. They helped at times but did not really put them over. South Alabama and Georgia State were added and the SBC schools at the time really thought those programs were better than App, Georgia Southern, and JMU. If not for App State the league does not have Marshall, ODU, JMU, and Southern Miss and without those schools I don't see La Tech having any interest in coming back. The top 6 attendance averages in the SBC in 2024 was App State, James Madison, Troy, Texas State, Marshall, and Georgia Southern. Texas State has now left and so the east is better.

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Re: Sun Belt presidents to vote Monday on Louisiana Tech

Unread post by JTApps1 » Sun Jul 13, 2025 4:33 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Jul 13, 2025 3:19 pm
T-Dog wrote:
Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:24 pm
Idaho has more 9 win season while in the Sun Belt than Texas State. In fact, Texas State needs to win 9 games this fall, more than they've ever won in a single Sun Belt season, to leave with a better winning percentage than Idaho.

Texas State has won a couple basketball regular season titles, baseball has been up and down, softball has mostly been good, but overall is still that "sleeping giant" that everyone claims them to be.

I'm fine with LaTech. Not overjoyed, not mad.

One positive is that App State doesn't lose a bus trip starting in 2026-27, because scheduling with 13 teams is a lot more difficult. And the Georgia schools were adamant about staying in the East scheduling bloc.

WKU wasn't happening. Ohio was more of a tire kicking for the future.

People who are making arguments against LaTech, especially in the East, are projecting the thought that they're better than the Sun Belt. and their school (whether it be App, Marshall, JMU, etc) should move up to whatever that is.
I think you are right about why some are projecting their school is better than Sun Belt but are they wrong? Look at the SBC history. The schools with the longest tenure were part of the league when it was considered the worst in FBS. The league added Troy because it was a powerhouse and they thought it would raise the SBC a little. They helped at times but did not really put them over. South Alabama and Georgia State were added and the SBC schools at the time really thought those programs were better than App, Georgia Southern, and JMU. If not for App State the league does not have Marshall, ODU, JMU, and Southern Miss and without those schools I don't see La Tech having any interest in coming back. The top 6 attendance averages in the SBC in 2024 was App State, James Madison, Troy, Texas State, Marshall, and Georgia Southern. Texas State has now left and so the east is better.
I do hope Troy would consider moving with the East schools if a breakaway or split ever happens. They might be too far away depending on how things unfold, but they've been one of my favorite SBC teams since joining.

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Re: Sun Belt presidents to vote Monday on Louisiana Tech

Unread post by Saint3333 » Sun Jul 13, 2025 4:56 pm

NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:42 pm
The west has their Coastal type school now.
The west has their second ULL program at best. CCU is growing, LA Tech is stagnant.

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Re: Sun Belt presidents to vote Monday on Louisiana Tech

Unread post by APPdiesel » Sun Jul 13, 2025 5:27 pm

Saint3333 wrote:
Sun Jul 13, 2025 4:56 pm
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:42 pm
The west has their Coastal type school now.
The west has their second ULL program at best. CCU is growing, LA Tech is stagnant.
Couldn’t you argue Coastal has made its improvements at least partly because of being in the Sun Belt. Are we too naive to believe La Tech can’t improve by being in the Sun Belt too?
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