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Re: Sunbelt Addition Dark Horse

Unread post by ASUMountaineer » Fri May 17, 2013 12:27 pm

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GoApps70 wrote:What about Eastern Kentucky?
20,000 seat stadium, 2nd highest number of FCS playoff appearances.
Not good football attendance recently though, and only 20 miles from UK.
That 20,000 seat stadium is an eyesore.
And it is paid for.
May very well be. But on the flip side of that, how much did it take to get this abomination paid for?

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They may a history of quality football, but the sights of that stadium tell me they have no vision on the future of their football team.
So does that mean that the stacked stone in the locker room is more important than the play on the field? Are we starting to be more concerned with the carton than we are with the ice cream?
Not at all, we're considering if they have any desire to grow the program to the FBS level. GoApps70 has been going on about EKU here and on the Sun Belt board, and no one knows why. They have made no mention of even entertaining the thought of going FBS, yet he acts as if they're a likely choice. EKU appears to be very happy in their current situation, and part of that is shown in the quality of their facility.
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Re: Sunbelt Addition Dark Horse

Unread post by asumike83 » Fri May 17, 2013 12:29 pm

EKU has solid athletics but the fan support, facilities and funding just don't seem to be there. Moot point.

JMU, MO State, Jax State, nobody. Those would be my choices, in that order.

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Re: Sunbelt Addition Dark Horse

Unread post by vegattk » Fri May 17, 2013 12:36 pm

AppAttack wrote:
kiddbrewer wrote:
bcoach wrote:
kiddbrewer wrote:
GoApps70 wrote:What about Eastern Kentucky?
20,000 seat stadium, 2nd highest number of FCS playoff appearances.
Not good football attendance recently though, and only 20 miles from UK.
That 20,000 seat stadium is an eyesore.
And it is paid for.
May very well be. But on the flip side of that, how much did it take to get this abomination paid for?

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They may a history of quality football, but the sights of that stadium tell me they have no vision on the future of their football team.
I agree. What a dump. That's just ugly. Wow.
Once upon a time Kidd Brewer wasn't much of a looker either....

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Re: Sunbelt Addition Dark Horse

Unread post by bcoach » Fri May 17, 2013 12:46 pm

Not at all, we're considering if they have any desire to grow the program to the FBS level. GoApps70 has been going on about EKU here and on the Sun Belt board, and no one knows why. They have made no mention of even entertaining the thought of going FBS, yet he acts as if they're a likely choice. EKU appears to be very happy in their current situation, and part of that is shown in the quality of their facility.[/quote]

If that is the case why do we feel so compelled to grade their facilities. Why have we become so high and mighty that we have to degrade so many schools and programs. Some here have become very arrogant and think we are superior to so many. There is a very large difference between pride and arrogance. It does not reflect well on ASU when we are constantly looking down our noses at others. Many times that leads to a broken nose. I happen to believe we are better than this.

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Re: Sunbelt Addition Dark Horse

Unread post by Gonzo » Fri May 17, 2013 12:52 pm

bcoach wrote:There is a very large difference between pride and arrogance.
I think there is a very fine line between the two. And I should know. I'm the smartest, coolest guy I've ever known.

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Re: Sunbelt Addition Dark Horse

Unread post by appst89 » Fri May 17, 2013 12:55 pm

There isn't anything arrogant about making the statement that their facilites are not currently FBS-ready and the school has made no indication of changing that. Our facilities were not FBS ready five years ago, and are barely so now.

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Re: Sunbelt Addition Dark Horse

Unread post by GoApps70 » Fri May 17, 2013 12:58 pm

Some could, would, and have said the same thing about KBS that we are so proud of.
Most programs have some things they need to work on. No different with EKU.
Just wanting all conceivable potential best SB adds to be considered.
Believe adding Liberty would disrupt the SBC forever, and do not want us to be part of that.
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Re: Sunbelt Addition Dark Horse

Unread post by bcoach » Fri May 17, 2013 1:03 pm

appst89 wrote:There isn't anything arrogant about making the statement that their facilites are not currently FBS-ready and the school has made no indication of changing that. Our facilities were not FBS ready five years ago, and are barely so now.
But that is not what was said. What was said was that it was an eyesore, and that is a big difference.

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Re: Sunbelt Addition Dark Horse

Unread post by Gonzo » Fri May 17, 2013 1:06 pm

bcoach wrote:
appst89 wrote:There isn't anything arrogant about making the statement that their facilites are not currently FBS-ready and the school has made no indication of changing that. Our facilities were not FBS ready five years ago, and are barely so now.
But that is not what was said. What was said was that it was an eye sore, and that is a big difference.
I mean....You don't have to pull for a team that plays in the rose bowl to call a shoddy looking stadium an eye sore. That is a very poor looking stadium as pictured.
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Re: Sunbelt Addition Dark Horse

Unread post by ASUMountaineer » Fri May 17, 2013 1:16 pm

ASUMountaineer wrote:Not at all, we're considering if they have any desire to grow the program to the FBS level. GoApps70 has been going on about EKU here and on the Sun Belt board, and no one knows why. They have made no mention of even entertaining the thought of going FBS, yet he acts as if they're a likely choice. EKU appears to be very happy in their current situation, and part of that is shown in the quality of their facility.
bcoach wrote:If that is the case why do we feel so compelled to grade their facilities. Why have we become so high and mighty that we have to degrade so many schools and programs. Some here have become very arrogant and think we are superior to so many. There is a very large difference between pride and arrogance. It does not reflect well on ASU when we are constantly looking down our noses at others. Many times that leads to a broken nose. I happen to believe we are better than this.
What are you talking about? Have they entertained the thought of going FBS? Have they made any improvements to their facilities that would position them for FBS? My post was not derogatory in the least towards EKU, and was not done out of arrogance. It was simply an assessment. I hope the view is nice up on your horse.
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Re: Sunbelt Addition Dark Horse

Unread post by ASUMountaineer » Fri May 17, 2013 1:17 pm

vegattk wrote:
AppAttack wrote:
kiddbrewer wrote:
bcoach wrote:
kiddbrewer wrote: That 20,000 seat stadium is an eyesore.
And it is paid for.
May very well be. But on the flip side of that, how much did it take to get this abomination paid for?

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They may a history of quality football, but the sights of that stadium tell me they have no vision on the future of their football team.
I agree. What a dump. That's just ugly. Wow.
Once upon a time Kidd Brewer wasn't much of a looker either....

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Re: Sunbelt Addition Dark Horse

Unread post by ASUMountaineer » Fri May 17, 2013 1:18 pm

GoApps70 wrote:Some could, would, and have said the same thing about KBS that we are so proud of.
Most programs have some things they need to work on. No different with EKU.
Just wanting all conceivable potential best SB adds to be considered.
Believe adding Liberty would disrupt the SBC forever, and do not want us to be part of that.
EKU would have to make them being an "add" an option. Thus far, they haven't. Continuing to push them makes no sense.
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Re: Sunbelt Addition Dark Horse

Unread post by HkyMtneer » Fri May 17, 2013 1:22 pm

vegattk wrote:
AppAttack wrote:
kiddbrewer wrote:
GoApps70 wrote:What about Eastern Kentucky?
20,000 seat stadium, 2nd highest number of FCS playoff appearances.
Not good football attendance recently though, and only 20 miles from UK.
May very well be. But on the flip side of that, how much did it take to get this abomination paid for?

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They may a history of quality football, but the sights of that stadium tell me they have no vision on the future of their football team.
I agree. What a dump. That's just ugly. Wow.
Once upon a time Kidd Brewer wasn't much of a looker either....

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Very true but we didn't get to what we have today, from Conrad Stadium, overnight. That took a lot of years, a lot of vision, a lot of $$$, and a lot of plain old time. I'm not saying EKU could not "catch up" in due course, but having walked all around that joint...it'd be a solid 10-12 year process, unless they win the Powerball this weekend. That having been said, we have better options, closer to being ready to join the party, so no need for the Sun Belt to consider Lexington's downwind at the moment.

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Re: Sunbelt Addition Dark Horse

Unread post by Gonzo » Fri May 17, 2013 1:23 pm

ASUMountaineer wrote:When was that picture taken Veg, 1964?
Based on his FBS point of view, I think he might think KBS still looks like that...

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Re: Sunbelt Addition Dark Horse

Unread post by bcoach » Fri May 17, 2013 1:27 pm

Gonzo wrote:
bcoach wrote:
appst89 wrote:There isn't anything arrogant about making the statement that their facilites are not currently FBS-ready and the school has made no indication of changing that. Our facilities were not FBS ready five years ago, and are barely so now.
But that is not what was said. What was said was that it was an eye sore, and that is a big difference.
I mean....You don't have to pull for a team that plays in the rose ball to call a shoddy looking stadium an eye sore. That is a very poor looking stadium as pictured.
You totally miss the point. It has nothing at all to do with what that stadium looks like. The point is why do we have to comment on someone else's stadium? Did they ask our opinion? They seem to be content with their stadium so why shouldn't we be? They aren't asking us to trade. We just seem to spend so much time on here tearing the other guys apart. Are we perfect? For those that I know will answer yes, I am sorry but that would just be wrong.

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Re: Sunbelt Addition Dark Horse

Unread post by Gonzo » Fri May 17, 2013 1:32 pm

bcoach wrote:The point is why do we have to comment on someone else's stadium? Did they ask our opinion? They seem to be content with their stadium so why shouldn't we be? They aren't asking us to trade. We just seem to spend so much time on here tearing the other guys apart. Are we perfect? For those that I know will answer yes, I am sorry but that would just be wrong.
We're assessing possible SBC adds, man. Are you serious?

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Re: Sunbelt Addition Dark Horse

Unread post by appst89 » Fri May 17, 2013 1:32 pm

bcoach wrote:
Gonzo wrote:
bcoach wrote:
appst89 wrote:There isn't anything arrogant about making the statement that their facilites are not currently FBS-ready and the school has made no indication of changing that. Our facilities were not FBS ready five years ago, and are barely so now.
But that is not what was said. What was said was that it was an eye sore, and that is a big difference.
I mean....You don't have to pull for a team that plays in the rose ball to call a shoddy looking stadium an eye sore. That is a very poor looking stadium as pictured.
You totally miss the point. It has nothing at all to do with what that stadium looks like. The point is why do we have to comment on someone else's stadium? Did they ask our opinion? They seem to be content with their stadium so why shouldn't we be? They aren't asking us to trade. We just seem to spend so much time on here tearing the other guys apart. Are we perfect? For those that I know will answer yes, I am sorry but that would just be wrong.
Has nothing to do with us. This school has been thrown out there as a potential add to the Sun Belt. That is the only reason anyone is commenting on them. I don't understand how you can get arrogance out of this thread.

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Re: Sunbelt Addition Dark Horse

Unread post by bcoach » Fri May 17, 2013 1:36 pm

ASUMountaineer wrote:
ASUMountaineer wrote:Not at all, we're considering if they have any desire to grow the program to the FBS level. GoApps70 has been going on about EKU here and on the Sun Belt board, and no one knows why. They have made no mention of even entertaining the thought of going FBS, yet he acts as if they're a likely choice. EKU appears to be very happy in their current situation, and part of that is shown in the quality of their facility.
bcoach wrote:If that is the case why do we feel so compelled to grade their facilities. Why have we become so high and mighty that we have to degrade so many schools and programs. Some here have become very arrogant and think we are superior to so many. There is a very large difference between pride and arrogance. It does not reflect well on ASU when we are constantly looking down our noses at others. Many times that leads to a broken nose. I happen to believe we are better than this.
What are you talking about? Have they entertained the thought of going FBS? Have they made any improvements to their facilities that would position them for FBS? My post was not derogatory in the least towards EKU, and was not done out of arrogance. It was simply an assessment. I hope the view is nice up on your horse.
As I sit on my horse I was not looking in your direction. I was looking in the direction of those who would feel compelled to call another's stadium an eyesore for really no reason at all. The fact of the matter is that I happen to agree with you that they seem happy and really don't need our approval of their stadium or anything else for that matter. It seem like we want to fight the entrance of a school who does not want to come in the first place.

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Re: Sunbelt Addition Dark Horse

Unread post by bcoach » Fri May 17, 2013 1:38 pm

appst89 wrote:
bcoach wrote:
Gonzo wrote:
bcoach wrote:
appst89 wrote:There isn't anything arrogant about making the statement that their facilites are not currently FBS-ready and the school has made no indication of changing that. Our facilities were not FBS ready five years ago, and are barely so now.
But that is not what was said. What was said was that it was an eye sore, and that is a big difference.
I mean....You don't have to pull for a team that plays in the rose ball to call a shoddy looking stadium an eye sore. That is a very poor looking stadium as pictured.
You totally miss the point. It has nothing at all to do with what that stadium looks like. The point is why do we have to comment on someone else's stadium? Did they ask our opinion? They seem to be content with their stadium so why shouldn't we be? They aren't asking us to trade. We just seem to spend so much time on here tearing the other guys apart. Are we perfect? For those that I know will answer yes, I am sorry but that would just be wrong.
Has nothing to do with us. This school has been thrown out there as a potential add to the Sun Belt. That is the only reason anyone is commenting on them. I don't understand how you can get arrogance out of this thread.
Very easy. "That place is a dump" VS "That stadium is not up to FBS standards"

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Re: Sunbelt Addition Dark Horse

Unread post by appst89 » Fri May 17, 2013 1:41 pm

bcoach wrote:Very easy. "That place is a dump" VS "That stadium is not up to FBS standards"
Sorry, don't see it. It's a thread about EKU. Their facilities are going to be discussed. Some people are going to use different language, but I don't see any of that as arrogance on our part. Heck, a lot of the SBC schools (and App fans, too) are calling KBS substandard because of the track. That doesn't make them arrogant for saying the track has to go.

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