In reading the impending split of the Big East Basketball schools, I'm seeing a landscape not conducive to a jump anymore. There's a lot of established FBS schools that are suddenly going to be looking for a home if this plays out. If I were the commissioner of a certain southeastern FBS mid-major, I'd be putting any potential invites on hold until this shakes out and see if something better than some FCS schools comes calling.

It either slams the door shut or opens it to even more schools. I could envision a scenario where the BE grabs a few replacements from the SB or MAC, leaving a few extra holes to be filled by schools like Liberty, JMU and others. Could be the opening to the tight regional conference we've been looking for all along.

rbarthle17 wrote:In reading the impending split of the Big East Basketball schools, I'm seeing a landscape not conducive to a jump anymore. There's a lot of established FBS schools that are suddenly going to be looking for a home if this plays out. If I were the commissioner of a certain southeastern FBS mid-major, I'd be putting any potential invites on hold until this shakes out and see if something better than some FCS schools comes calling.

It's hard to say what effect it will have. I could see Boise St. and San Diego St. deciding to try to go back to the MWC now. With Georgetown, et. al. leaving, there really isn't any East left in the Big East.

It's either going to be really good for our chances or really bad.

It looks like the 7 non-football schools are leaving the Big East, and taking the bball auto bid with them.

For the football BIg East schools remaining, easiest way to rebuild is by first getting football only schools to go full membership. After that, poach from MAC, CUSA, Sunbelt.

Don't think this hurts us, might even help.

appst89 wrote:

rbarthle17 wrote:In reading the impending split of the Big East Basketball schools, I'm seeing a landscape not conducive to a jump anymore. There's a lot of established FBS schools that are suddenly going to be looking for a home if this plays out. If I were the commissioner of a certain southeastern FBS mid-major, I'd be putting any potential invites on hold until this shakes out and see if something better than some FCS schools comes calling.

It's hard to say what effect it will have. I could see Boise St. and San Diego St. deciding to try to go back to the MWC now. With Georgetown, et. al. leaving, there really isn't any East left in the Big East.

It's either going to be really good for our chances or really bad.

Except for East Carolina
That's gotta suck, to finally get the invitation you've been waiting years for only to have the conference immediately dissolve around you. Crazy times we're living in.

TheMoody1 wrote:http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story ... ources-say

Funny how the web-version of ESPN is reporting it as likely, while ESPN radio has been reporting all afternoon that it has happened already. That's the media for you.

AppinATL wrote:

TheMoody1 wrote:http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story ... ources-say

Funny how the web-version of ESPN is reporting it as likely, while ESPN radio has been reporting all afternoon that it has happened already. That's the media for you.

The right hand needs to talk to the left.

We have to accept any offer that comes at this point. This move by the catholic 7 could jumble things up for a bit, but we have to be in FBS to be in position to find the best long term home for the Apps. None of the Sun Belt schools that recently left will go back down so that won't leave room in CUSA for the recent Big East adds. Looks like a new conference will have to be created at this point.

JTApps1 wrote:We have to accept any offer that comes at this point. This move by the catholic 7 could jumble things up for a bit, but we have to be in FBS to be in position to find the best long term home for the Apps. None of the Sun Belt schools that recently left will go back down so that won't leave room in CUSA for the recent Big East adds. Looks like a new conference will have to be created at this point.

There are going to be some schools looking for a home. Heard a so-called expert lay out the scenario today. It goes like this:

Everything hinges on Maryland and whether they have to pay the $50 million exit fee. If they get out for less then the dominoes begin to fall.
1) The Big (1?)10 takes Georgia Tech, UNC and UVa. to get to 16.
2) The $EC takes NC State and Virginia Tech to get to 16.
3) The Big 12 takes FSU and Clemson immediately with eyes on Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville and Cincinnati to get to 16.

That leaves Duke, Wake and BC from the ACC homeless; South Florida, Connecticut, SMU, Houston, Temple, Central Florida, Memphis, Tulane, Boise St., San Diego St. and ECU will comprise what's left of the Big East. The Pac-12 will have to look at Boise St. and San Diego St. as their road to 16 will be a little more difficult. The remaining Big East could snatch up the ACC dregs and try to continue on. Duke and Wake look to be the really big losers in all this.

The guy I listened to today says this will happen quickly if Maryland avoids the fee. Keep your eyes peeled.

just cant believe that about the acc...they screwed the pooch going from 8 to 132 teams or however many are now in the acc...think about it...whyd they need that they should have just done a conference(8 teams) championship against another 8 team conference...instead of all these stupid conference 16 megateam crap...yeah i know...show me the effing money.....sad

The ACC's problem is that it tried to be something it clearly is not....a football conference. The ACC was, is and always will be (as long as it is around) a basketball first conference. I don't see why they just didn't realize that and stay within itself. Those 7 cathlotic schools leaving the Big East realize it and that is why they are leaving the Big East. All this jumping for better football positioning is going to tear down what was at one time the premier college basketball conference in the country. It really is sad when you think of it because none of those traditional ACC schools is ever going to amount to diddly squat on the grid iron. Change for change sake isn't always a good thing. I might add that if the ACC does break up and and leaves Duke and Wake without a home, they should consider the SoCon (sarcasm), we just love us some small private school.

I think the ACC acted to enhance its BB position by adding schools like Syracuse, Louisville, Pitt, and to a lesser degree ND. I consider Syracuse and Louisville (to a lesser degree Pitt) BB schools rather thanFB schools.

It appears they may not be able to dissolve the BE. I've read where it may take up to three years for the 7 to leave.

hapapp wrote:It appears they may not be able to dissolve the BE. I've read where it may take up to three years for the 7 to leave.

That's good for us. Hopefully, it will drag out in court for a while.

If they leave earlier than 27 months they will have to pay the exit fees.

hapapp wrote:If they leave earlier than 27 months they will have to pay the exit fees.

Well, I'm sure they can pay those fees with all that TV money they'll get with football. Oh yeah, that's right -- they can't.

It's my understanding that it only takes a 2/3 majority vote to disband the conference. There are only 10 current full members with voting rights so the 7 catholic schools represent a large enough voting block in and off themselves to disband the conference. This threat alone should be enough to allow them to leave on their own timetable and without the exit fees. If not then the schools can just vote to disband the conference and therefore there would no longer be a conference to enforce any exit fee agreements. I don't think the remaining schools will push the issue because if the conference is disbanded then all the recently added schools will be left without a home. I don't see this going to court or even taking that long to accomplish because frankly the catholic schools hold all the power and everybody involved realizes that fact. I could be wrong, I haven't read the actual conference by laws (just relying on journalists for the story), but it seems like this will be over in a hurry.

t4pizza wrote:It's my understanding that it only takes a 2/3 majority vote to disband the conference. There are only 10 current full members with voting rights so the 7 catholic schools represent a large enough voting block in and off themselves to disband the conference. This threat alone should be enough to allow them to leave on their own timetable and without the exit fees. If not then the schools can just vote to disband the conference and therefore there would no longer be a conference to enforce any exit fee agreements. I don't think the remaining schools will push the issue because if the conference is disbanded then all the recently added schools will be left without a home. I don't see this going to court or even taking that long to accomplish because frankly the catholic schools hold all the power and everybody involved realizes that fact. I could be wrong, I haven't read the actual conference by laws (just relying on journalists for the story), but it seems like this will be over in a hurry.

If they disband the conference, they (most likely) lose the auto-bid for bball. That's of utmost importance for the catholic 7, so they'll likely do anything they can to either A) steal the BE auto-bid away from the conference; B) try to wrangle it so the football members are forced out, thus keeping the auto-bid for themselves and dropping football or C) try to get another conference with a bunch of bball school and an auto-bid to form a "super" bball conference. This could turn into the biggest mess we've seen so far, which is saying something.

Good to see these basketball schools make a move to benefit their best interests instead of allowing football determine everything. If the Catholic schools form their own nationwide super conference (cobimbining with A-10 Catholic schools plus Gonzaga & St Louis) it will basically be what the BE was created to be int the first place. There will still 9 football playing schools left in the BE and I don't see how that negatively impacts ASU. I can see Mtn West going to 16 schools by bringing Boise, BYU and SDSU back, adding Houston & SMU, Tulsa & UTEP. Those moves can only enhances ASU's opportunities.