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This is so weird to me. The program has been stuck in the doldrums for a while now. Seems like the HC doesn't trust his coaching staffs ability to identify talent at the HS level, so they are taking guys they have college tape on. At the end of the day its so odd, but will be fun to watch play out.goapps93 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:52 pmNot sure if this has been mentioned but Spavital and Texas State signed no incoming freshmen in this year's class, only transfers. Interesting.
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While they are reporting it as a possible short term strategy, perhaps he's way outside the box and this is a long term strategy. Rather than invest money and time recruiting, just find kids that rated high and are looking for playing time. No worries about de-commits. Perhaps, they build a rallying point and brotherhood like the old Oakland Raiders teams of cast-offs. In a state with so many D1 schools, it's certainly a way to zig when the others are zagging.NavyApp wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:04 pmThis is so weird to me. The program has been stuck in the doldrums for a while now. Seems like the HC doesn't trust his coaching staffs ability to identify talent at the HS level, so they are taking guys they have college tape on. At the end of the day its so odd, but will be fun to watch play out.goapps93 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:52 pmNot sure if this has been mentioned but Spavital and Texas State signed no incoming freshmen in this year's class, only transfers. Interesting.
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In terms of scholarship cost, the tuition, room and board price tag is the same for students in the general population. Where it adds up is the headcount cost for the ancillary amenities, such as, nutrition, tutors, and the like. Hope that helps.bigdaddyg wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:36 amI have wondered how this coming year would play out. Schools like App will have as many as 10 returning players who are given the extra year. While those extra spots don’t count against the 85 scholarships (I believe) they still have to be paid for. In states like North Carolina there was no fall football and in many counties we will see 6 game seasons. That being said kids who were recruited only had tape for probably 1 real season. With so many hitting the transfer portal players and schools get freebies so to speak.
How does it work with scholarship cost in terms of players transferring in from out of state? If, say 15 guys come to a Texas State from other schools not in Texas does that increase their cost? Is that the same for App? In terms of athletic scholarships in general is there a cost difference for out of state kids versus in state?
So is a student/athlete from Florida who is attending App an out of state student? If a non-athlete from Florida attends App he or she pays out-of-state tuition which is higher. In terms of the room,board and tuition (regular stuff) for the Florida recruit are those costs higher for the school since that person is not a NC resident? Or is it different for athletics?AppSt94 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:00 amIn terms of scholarship cost, the tuition, room and board price tag is the same for students in the general population. Where it adds up is the headcount cost for the ancillary amenities, such as, nutrition, tutors, and the like. Hope that helps.bigdaddyg wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:36 amI have wondered how this coming year would play out. Schools like App will have as many as 10 returning players who are given the extra year. While those extra spots don’t count against the 85 scholarships (I believe) they still have to be paid for. In states like North Carolina there was no fall football and in many counties we will see 6 game seasons. That being said kids who were recruited only had tape for probably 1 real season. With so many hitting the transfer portal players and schools get freebies so to speak.
How does it work with scholarship cost in terms of players transferring in from out of state? If, say 15 guys come to a Texas State from other schools not in Texas does that increase their cost? Is that the same for App? In terms of athletic scholarships in general is there a cost difference for out of state kids versus in state?
I think that a student and a student athlete from out of state are charged the same.bigdaddyg wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:14 amSo is a student/athlete from Florida who is attending App an out of state student? If a non-athlete from Florida attends App he or she pays out-of-state tuition which is higher. In terms of the room,board and tuition (regular stuff) for the Florida recruit are those costs higher for the school since that person is not a NC resident? Or is it different for athletics?AppSt94 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:00 amIn terms of scholarship cost, the tuition, room and board price tag is the same for students in the general population. Where it adds up is the headcount cost for the ancillary amenities, such as, nutrition, tutors, and the like. Hope that helps.bigdaddyg wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:36 amI have wondered how this coming year would play out. Schools like App will have as many as 10 returning players who are given the extra year. While those extra spots don’t count against the 85 scholarships (I believe) they still have to be paid for. In states like North Carolina there was no fall football and in many counties we will see 6 game seasons. That being said kids who were recruited only had tape for probably 1 real season. With so many hitting the transfer portal players and schools get freebies so to speak.
How does it work with scholarship cost in terms of players transferring in from out of state? If, say 15 guys come to a Texas State from other schools not in Texas does that increase their cost? Is that the same for App? In terms of athletic scholarships in general is there a cost difference for out of state kids versus in state?
The NC General Assembly figured that loop-hole out several (15-18) years ago or more. Institutions had to refund the state for each out-of-state scholarship athlete and the refund was retroactive for a number of years. I don't recall that number, but App State took a big hit. This would have been in the Coach Moore/Laney/Dreibelbis era!t4pizza wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:31 amThere used to be a law (maybe just a rule) that allowed out of state athletes on scholarship to be treated as in state for purposes of costs. It has been a long time since I looked it up and it might have changed but I know at one time the out of state players cost the school the same amount.
asu66 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 4:09 pmThe NC General Assembly figured that loop-hole out several (15-18) years ago or more. Institutions had to refund the state for each out-of-state scholarship athlete and the refund was retroactive for a number of years. I don't recall that number, but App State took a big hit. This would have been in the Coach Moore/Laney/Dreibelbis era!t4pizza wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:31 amThere used to be a law (maybe just a rule) that allowed out of state athletes on scholarship to be treated as in state for purposes of costs. It has been a long time since I looked it up and it might have changed but I know at one time the out of state players cost the school the same amount.
In some states I can understand this strategy, but in a state like TEXAS with high school head coaches and the egos they have, this seems like a long-term detriment.goapps93 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:52 pmNot sure if this has been mentioned but Spavital and Texas State signed no incoming freshmen in this year's class, only transfers. Interesting.
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