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Expansion Done?
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:42 am
by hapapp
Sure a lot of chatter from seemingly some folks in the know on the Belt board that it is a done deal that we are going to add four: Marshall, So Miss, ODU, and JMU. Apparently ESPN has signed off on it and it was stated by a connected StAte fan that the revenue payouts will not decrease with the addition of four teams. One UL poster said that the speculation is over and that we may have announcements by Tuesday or Wednesday. Our own AppDiesel put together this map of the new SBC:
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Re: Expansion Done?
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:51 am
by HighlandsApp
FLORIDA. No teams, we just claim it!
Re: Expansion Done?
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:58 am
by AppSt94
HighlandsApp wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:51 am
FLORIDA. No teams, we just claim it!
Why would anyone want to claim Florida? Lol.
Re: Expansion Done?
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:09 am
by AppStFan1
AppSt94 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:58 am
HighlandsApp wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:51 am
FLORIDA. No teams, we just claim it!
Why would anyone want to claim Florida? Lol.
Nobody to really claim unless we poached FIU. Florida has a ton of talent so whether we have a presence or not I'm sure it won't stop anyone from spending a ton of recruiting trips down there. LOL
Re: Expansion Done?
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:13 am
by AtlAppMan
I think (if this materializes) will be a good thing for Sun Belt and App State over long term.
Re: Expansion Done?
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:22 am
by appst89
This is going to be SEC Jr. If anyone is going to wear the P6 badge, it's going to be the Belt.
Re: Expansion Done?
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:23 am
by ukappfan
Not crazy about ODU or JMu.
Re: Expansion Done?
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:27 am
by AppStFan1
AtlAppMan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:13 am
I think (if this materializes) will be a good thing for Sun Belt and App State over long term.
Agree here. I just hope that the SBC bans JMU's annoying streamers. LOL
If some of the current AAC teams perhaps get poached by MWC or Big 12 then is there anyone in the AAC who may want to jump to the better football league (SBC)?
Re: Expansion Done?
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:28 am
by AppSt94
ukappfan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:23 am
Not crazy about ODU or JMu.
What is your pause?
Re: Expansion Done?
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:31 am
by AppYosef!
Any chance the league goes after Liberty? They might be a better choice than ODU.
Re: Expansion Done?
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:31 am
by AppStFan1
appst89 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:22 am
This is going to be SEC Jr. If anyone is going to wear the P6 badge, it's going to be the Belt.
AAC took teams with potential for sure but there is no question that App, Marshall, Ga Southern, CCU, ULL, and Troy all have better historical and/or current success than anyone the AAC just picked up. Would love to see an OOC scheduling alliance between the AAC and Sun Belt.
Re: Expansion Done?
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:34 am
by AppYosef!
Any interest in Liberty instead of ODU? They might be a better fit overall.
Re: Expansion Done?
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:41 am
by ukappfan
AppSt94 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:28 am
ukappfan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:23 am
Not crazy about ODU or JMu.
What is your pause?
ODU brings nothing football quality wise and I just don’t like JMU. The purple streamers still annoy me.
Re: Expansion Done?
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:46 am
by AppSt94
ukappfan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:41 am
AppSt94 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:28 am
ukappfan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:23 am
Not crazy about ODU or JMu.
What is your pause?
ODU brings nothing football quality wise and I just don’t like JMU. The purple streamers still annoy me.
All good points. I know that football drives the bus, but JMU brings a solid overall athletic program. A really good softball program and both bring the potential to elevate both basketball brands.
We can avoid the streamers by shutting them out.
Re: Expansion Done?
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:04 pm
by goapps93
ukappfan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:41 am
AppSt94 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:28 am
ukappfan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:23 am
Not crazy about ODU or JMu.
What is your pause?
ODU brings nothing football quality wise and I just don’t like JMU. The purple streamers still annoy me.
I don't like CCU but I like having them in our conference. ODU brings exposure in the talent rich Hampton Roads region. I think they have potential that the Sun Belt will better foster than CUSA.
Re: Expansion Done?
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:20 pm
by canes_mj
Love all these. We added good brands. Marshall we all know about. Southern Miss has been down for a while but they have a good history. ODU is in a good market, rich with recruits; they have a beautiful stadium. JMU is a solid athletic program and good university (correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't their booster club have approx 12k people? or is that ODU?)
Additionally these are regional teams, which means 3 more games that are drivable for App fans to do road trips. And Southern Miss is close to New Orleans, so a game there would be a nice way to wrap a vacation around that.
I'm really pleased about these adds. Nothing but positives to say about this. But it is crucial that we renegotiate our tv deal for a better payout...does anyone know if the current contract has a clause for renegotiation if changed membership? Most do.
App, ULL, Coastal, Marshall...eventually Ga Southern will get it turned around; Troy has a good history and eventually should get good again; Ark St was recently good; So Miss has a good history; Ga St has potential and is trending up.....SB is poised to be the best G5 conference; now the Tex St's and ULM's should be the outliers and weekly we should see good matchups.
AAC went for markets, which is what C-USA did before, and look how it turned out for them.
Re: Expansion Done?
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:28 pm
by BeauFoster
If this effectively kills CUSA, let’s hope all bowl tie ins for G5 are re-examined
Re: Expansion Done?
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:42 pm
by Howard Street Hooligan
would still rather Western Kentucky over an ODU if we're being honest.
Re: Expansion Done?
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:52 pm
by hapapp
AppSt94 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:46 am
ukappfan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:41 am
AppSt94 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:28 am
ukappfan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:23 am
Not crazy about ODU or JMu.
What is your pause?
ODU brings nothing football quality wise and I just don’t like JMU. The purple streamers still annoy me.
All good points. I know that football drives the bus, but JMU brings a solid overall athletic program. A really good softball program and both bring the potential to elevate both basketball brands.
We can avoid the streamers by shutting them out.
Both have solid athletic programs and puts us in the center of the East division.
Re: Expansion Done?
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:55 pm
by hapapp
canes_mj wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:20 pm
Love all these. We added good brands. Marshall we all know about. Southern Miss has been down for a while but they have a good history. ODU is in a good market, rich with recruits; they have a beautiful stadium. JMU is a solid athletic program and good university (correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't their booster club have approx 12k people? or is that ODU?)
Additionally these are regional teams, which means 3 more games that are drivable for App fans to do road trips. And Southern Miss is close to New Orleans, so a game there would be a nice way to wrap a vacation around that.
I'm really pleased about these adds. Nothing but positives to say about this. But it is crucial that we renegotiate our tv deal for a better payout...does anyone know if the current contract has a clause for renegotiation if changed membership? Most do.
App, ULL, Coastal, Marshall...eventually Ga Southern will get it turned around; Troy has a good history and eventually should get good again; Ark St was recently good; So Miss has a good history; Ga St has potential and is trending up.....SB is poised to be the best G5 conference; now the Tex St's and ULM's should be the outliers and weekly we should see good matchups.
AAC went for markets, which is what C-USA did before, and look how it turned out for them.
It was said that there would be no reduction in media payouts. No details but the same folks who reported the expansion indicated that to be the case. No way to confirm...I guess we'll see.
