UNCG, UNCW, UNCC All get more money from Raleigh

[Apptiger]

2024-2025 funding by university for NC

16020 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill - Academic Affairs $385,373,589 $346,873,589
16021 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill - Health Affairs $230,809,848 $230,809,848
16022
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill - Area Health Education
Centers $55,271,874 $56,271,874
16030 North Carolina State University - Academic Affairs $516,666,715 $515,916,715
16031 North Carolina State University - Agricultural Research $59,753,248 $60,103,248
16032 North Carolina State University - Agricultural Extension $46,109,008 $46,109,008
16040 University of North Carolina at Greensboro $197,532,284 $197,532,284
16050 University of North Carolina at Charlotte $306,939,831 $306,939,831
16055 University of North Carolina at Asheville $50,424,871 $50,424,871
16060 University of North Carolina at Wilmington $198,947,266 $198,947,266
16065 East Carolina University - Academic Affairs $264,602,993 $264,607,048
16066 East Carolina University - Health Affairs $91,389,856 $100,753,390
16070 North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University $156,419,898 $151,219,898
16075 Western Carolina University $156,089,462 $156,062,686
16080 Appalachian State University $187,490,273 $188,908,812
16082 University of North Carolina at Pembroke $98,181,856 $98,181,856
16084 Winston-Salem State University $69,510,370 $69,510,370
16086 Elizabeth City State University $46,160,370 $46,160,370
16088 Fayetteville State University $78,711,546 $78,711,546
16090 North Carolina Central University $91,623,233 $91,623,233
16092 University of North Carolina School of the Arts $39,339,624 $39,339,624

Source data
https://www.osbm.nc.gov/memo-condition- ... attachment

[appdaze]

2024-2025 funding by university for NC

16020 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill - Academic Affairs $385,373,589 $346,873,589
16021 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill - Health Affairs $230,809,848 $230,809,848
16022
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill - Area Health Education
Centers $55,271,874 $56,271,874
16030 North Carolina State University - Academic Affairs $516,666,715 $515,916,715
16031 North Carolina State University - Agricultural Research $59,753,248 $60,103,248
16032 North Carolina State University - Agricultural Extension $46,109,008 $46,109,008
16040 University of North Carolina at Greensboro $197,532,284 $197,532,284
16050 University of North Carolina at Charlotte $306,939,831 $306,939,831
16055 University of North Carolina at Asheville $50,424,871 $50,424,871
16060 University of North Carolina at Wilmington $198,947,266 $198,947,266
16065 East Carolina University - Academic Affairs $264,602,993 $264,607,048
16066 East Carolina University - Health Affairs $91,389,856 $100,753,390
16070 North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University $156,419,898 $151,219,898
16075 Western Carolina University $156,089,462 $156,062,686
16080 Appalachian State University $187,490,273 $188,908,812
16082 University of North Carolina at Pembroke $98,181,856 $98,181,856
16084 Winston-Salem State University $69,510,370 $69,510,370
16086 Elizabeth City State University $46,160,370 $46,160,370
16088 Fayetteville State University $78,711,546 $78,711,546
16090 North Carolina Central University $91,623,233 $91,623,233
16092 University of North Carolina School of the Arts $39,339,624 $39,339,624

Source data
https://www.osbm.nc.gov/memo-condition- ... attachment

"The UNC System university funding is now based on a performance-based model, shifting focus from just enrollment numbers to student outcomes, rewarding universities for success in graduation rates, student debt reduction, and degree efficiency, with state funds tied to specific goals like STEM completions and providing equitable funding for distinct university missions. A fixed pot of money (around $30M) is shared, with campuses earning back funds based on meeting these key metrics, encouraging success in areas important to the state.
Key Factors in the Performance Model:
Graduation Rates: Incentivizing higher completion rates, especially for first-time, full-time students.
Student Debt: Rewarding lower average debt for graduates.
Degree Efficiency: Funding per degree delivered, encouraging timely graduation.
Credit Hours: Funding tied to actual resident student credit hours, with higher rates for high-demand fields like STEM.
Mission-Specific Goals: Allowing institutions to select one metric that aligns with their specific role (e.g., research, community college).
How the Performance Pool Works:
Contribution: Each university contributes a portion of its state funding into a shared pool, proportional to its revenue.
Performance Funding: Universities can earn back funds from this pool by achieving specific performance targets, not just for having more students.
Shifting Incentives: Moves away from incentivizing enrollment growth to prioritizing student success and cost-effectiveness for the state.
In essence, the system rewards universities for producing successful, well-educated, and employable North Carolina residents, rather than just counting bodies."


Here is an article on it. The above is the Google ai explanation.
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local ... 12018.html

[asu2000]

Does this mean App can reduce enrollment since its not about numbers - not sure if you guys have notice but the town is not handling the increase very well and there are way to many apartments popping up with more planned. Apartments are not affordable housing, and does not promote business or industry growth in the area. Reducing student population is 1 part of affordable / attainable housing for the area. Remove 500 to 1,000 students and that can help ease the housing issue in the area, does not solve but its part of the process that needs to start asap. If its performance base, tighten the belt on entry, get better applicants instead of just adding more and more enrollment to a university that literally cannot expand anymore, if it expands where the hell is any one going to park. Lets just have all apartments and parking decks. That makes for some wonderful scenery.

[JTApps1]

So we pushed to increase enrollment just in time for the System to change the funding model. Great timing.

[asu2000]

So we pushed to increase enrollment just in time for the System to change the funding model. Great timing.

Yea it got changed again - we were behind in fighting for what we needed, then started playing the game as set along with others and the big boys figured out another way to funnel the money where they wanted with the metric that makes it looks like they are not favoring certain schools when they really are favoring.

[BambooRdApp]

Wish we could insert App and Boone into this headline. Good for UNCW

UNCW announces plans to open medical school


The UNC System’s coastal university wants to open a standalone medical school, hoping to bring and retain more doctors to southeastern North Carolina and alleviate a statewide shortage. (Port City Daily/file photo)
WILMINGTON — The UNC System’s coastal university wants to open a standalone medical school, hoping to bring and retain more doctors to southeastern North Carolina and alleviate a statewide shortage.

UNCW Chancellor Aswani Volety presented before the UNC System Board of Governors educational planning committee Wednesday requesting its approval to begin developing a four-year medical degree with a three-year accelerated program.

[Saint3333]

Ridiculous, we have failed if UNCW got a program before us.

[Apptiger]

There is a med school at ECU. The next med school in NC should be in the west. Boone for example. Seems we get the shaft from Raleigh at every turn and it seems to continue.

[mike87]

We get more funding if we reduce student debt. We could reduce student debt if we could get more funding.

[spacemonkey]

I love the idea of dropping 1,000 students. (I would prefer 2,000) Our acceptance rate is ridiculous. If you are not turning kids down, before long you are just a high school that parents are making kids go to. Look at our high schools...we don't want App to turn into a high school with kids that don't want to be there.

My best scenario would limit the accepted students in Boone, but have unlimited acceptance in Hickory. This sets up the best of both worlds. Liberty like education in Hickory and Ivy league in Boone. Even better...medical school in Hickory.

Smart people know when they are around smart people. If we are accepting everyone in Boone....quality has to go down.

[BambooRdApp]

Like high school or EasyU

[ArmantiWaterSafety]

A 90-91% acceptance rate is almost embarrassing. 1000 less students means at least 8 million lost in tuition per year, and that's if everybody is in-state. I don't see App playing the game of trying to meet metrics to make up that deficit with state funding given our history with those folks.

[Bootsy]

There are legitimate reasons why UNCW could land a new Med school.

New Hanover Regional is a Level II trauma center, and already has the facilities and personnel to attain Level I status. NHRMC has its own medical residency program, as well as hosting residents from UNC. Well-developed speciality and sub-specialty physician networks are in place there. Access from southeastern NC counties to Wilmington is easier than reaching ECU, and NHRMC is also closer to Horry County than McLeod Regional (in Florence). The area continues to grow and the cost of living, while not cheap, remains reasonable.

Coincidentally, these are the very reasons why App/Boone would not qualify as a site for a medical school. UNCA would have a better shot, because HCA Mission also meets many of the criteria listed above.

[appdaze]

According to AI it takes an average of 1.7million a year to run a level 3, 2.3 million for leve 2, and 7-10million for a level 1.

Here is the map.
https://oems.nc.gov/trauma/

I would think App could strike a deal with the one in Burke County to make a med school, but as others have mentioned i doubt the legislature ever gives App one.

[AppSt94]

So we pushed to increase enrollment just in time for the System to change the funding model. Great timing.

I believe that the push to increase enrollment was a directive from the university system.

[AppStFan1]

Does this mean App can reduce enrollment since its not about numbers - not sure if you guys have notice but the town is not handling the increase very well and there are way to many apartments popping up with more planned. Apartments are not affordable housing, and does not promote business or industry growth in the area. Reducing student population is 1 part of affordable / attainable housing for the area. Remove 500 to 1,000 students and that can help ease the housing issue in the area, does not solve but its part of the process that needs to start asap. If its performance base, tighten the belt on entry, get better applicants instead of just adding more and more enrollment to a university that literally cannot expand anymore, if it expands where the hell is any one going to park. Lets just have all apartments and parking decks. That makes for some wonderful scenery.

100% with you on this. If this is what they go by then make those changes ASAP.

[AppDawg]

I’ll never forget my immediate cringe when hearing SNE first hand touting/branding Appalachian State as the Premier Undergraduate University in the southeast. Believe this was even in commercials. Felt like a ceiling being placed on our potential and limiting the perspectives of decision-makers.

[Bootsy]

According to AI it takes an average of 1.7million a year to run a level 3, 2.3 million for leve 2, and 7-10million for a level 1.

Here is the map.
https://oems.nc.gov/trauma/

I would think App could strike a deal with the one in Burke County to make a med school, but as others have mentioned i doubt the legislature ever gives App one.

Can you provide more context? Are you saying it takes 7-10 million people to justify a Level I trauma center designation?

North Carolina reported 10,439,388 residents in the 2020 census, yet there are six Level I’s in the state. UNC Blue Ridge is a Level III, but it isn’t much bigger than Watauga Medical Center. App isn’t getting a medical school anytime soon, but they are developing more allied health programs.

[BambooRdApp]

According to America’s Health Rankings, 20.4% of the US population lives in rural areas. Access to timely care and stable hospital operations is critical for these communities.

[AppSt94]

Why does App need a medical school?