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Louisiana at APP Game Day Thread

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Re: Louisiana at APP Game Day Thread

Unread post by WataugaMan » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:01 am

Scoring kicking points is one thing, however, scoring in critical times is another issue.

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Re: Louisiana at APP Game Day Thread

Unread post by NewApp » Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:40 am

AppStateNews wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:37 am
Imagine a fan base where the kicker of the team has scored the most points in Sun Belt history but they still think the team needs to find a new kicker...

Finally a positive post from someone who makes sense. Maybe what we need is not a new QB, kicker, offensive coordinator, head coach, et. al, but a more appreciative fan base.
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Re: Louisiana at APP Game Day Thread

Unread post by NewApp » Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:40 am

diehardapp18 wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:09 am
t4pizza wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:59 am
Is it a toxic environment of reactionary takes or a realistic view of the struggles our program is facing and the concern about those struggles?
We are on our third coaching staff in three years and have lost three close games to three teams that have combined to lose one game. Not to mention playing in a pandemic with lots of uncertainty on a weekly basis. Is 7-3 somewhat disappointing? Yes. But it’s not indicative of the future of the program/coaching staff.

This team seems to make too many mental errors and I think it’s fair to say the coaching staff struggles with situational awareness. But remember Satterfield went 4-8 in the SoCon his first year.
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Re: Louisiana at APP Game Day Thread

Unread post by JohnnyBurrito » Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:28 am

App91 wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:20 am
JohnnyBurrito wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:18 am
App91 wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:17 am
JohnnyBurrito wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:15 am
bUt wE’vE oNlY lOsT tO tOp 25 TeAmS
Um yeah well 2 of them we have NEVER lost to, but those are gone now.
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Re: Louisiana at APP Game Day Thread

Unread post by APP93 » Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:43 am

Last year many complained about quality of opponents in the conference. Looking at the schedule when it is released and penciling in wins and losses, while fun as a fan, is a fools game.

All of these programs have good players, coaches and facilities. They all study film, practice hard and prepare for each game.

They then go out on Saturday and compete hard and try and win. There is nothing guaranteed in sports.

Beat GSU!!!

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Unread post by Longrifle28 » Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:12 am

Not sure how I feel about this game.

We outgained, out possessed, the opponent on a rainy night. Our turnovers were bad but their botched punts were worse.

We didn't give up and gave ourselves a chance to win....

Napier made a huge blunder on the final safety and we couldn't make him pay for it. Maybe if it had been the other end zone?

I guess I feel a bit embarrassed....
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Re: Louisiana at APP Game Day Thread

Unread post by TomA415 » Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:17 am

NewApp wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:40 am
AppStateNews wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:37 am
Imagine a fan base where the kicker of the team has scored the most points in Sun Belt history but they still think the team needs to find a new kicker...

Finally a positive post from someone who makes sense. Maybe what we need is not a new QB, kicker, offensive coordinator, head coach, et. al, but a more appreciative fan base.
I don’t get this at all. Almost if not everyone in here is appreciative for this team, school and fan base or they wouldn’t be on the board to begin with.

However that doesn’t mean you can’t criticize players and coaches for not doing their jobs. Some people take it too far but this whole “say something bad about the team and you’re unappreciative and spoiled” is just lazy.

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Re: Louisiana at APP Game Day Thread

Unread post by cnut » Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:28 am

APP93 wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:43 am
Last year many complained about quality of opponents in the conference. Looking at the schedule when it is released and penciling in wins and losses, while fun as a fan, is a fools game.

All of these programs have good players, coaches and facilities. They all study film, practice hard and prepare for each game.

They then go out on Saturday and compete hard and try and win. There is nothing guaranteed in sports.

Beat GSU!!!
I’ll expand on this a little more - is anyone else glad to see the SBC garnering more attention? Sure, I’d love it more if App was at the top of the competitive pile, but it’s much more exciting to have that competitive pile than to be a good team in a conference of nobodies. We simply can’t talk about how we belong in a bigger conference and complain about losing some hard fought games in our own conference that’s rising in talent and relevance.

Shout out to our players for playing a tough game in miserable conditions. We didn’t get the W, but that’s part of competing, too. Let’s take out that pain on GSU and get some revenge!

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Re: Louisiana at APP Game Day Thread

Unread post by MrCraig » Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:43 am

NashvilleNeer wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:58 am
This OC is garbage. I could call a better game and i hardly played football in my time. This offense has been a terrible (compared to the last few years) all year. It goes deeper than just losing Evans and Sutton.
WR issues can kind of explain Zac’s regression, but what about the run game? Yes we run the ball a lot, but it is seriously the same plays over and over. Peterson’s playbook can’t be more than 2 pages. There’s been little to no option looks. they keep putting guys in motion for sweep type plays, but never actually give that guy the ball. Zac Thomas ran all over ULL the last two years with read options and designed runs. Where were those plays last night? Peterson has got to go.

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Re: Louisiana at APP Game Day Thread

Unread post by NewApp » Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:50 am

TomA415 wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:17 am
NewApp wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:40 am
AppStateNews wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:37 am
Imagine a fan base where the kicker of the team has scored the most points in Sun Belt history but they still think the team needs to find a new kicker...

Finally a positive post from someone who makes sense. Maybe what we need is not a new QB, kicker, offensive coordinator, head coach, et. al, but a more appreciative fan base.
I don’t get this at all. Almost if not everyone in here is appreciative for this team, school and fan base or they wouldn’t be on the board to begin with.

However that doesn’t mean you can’t criticize players and coaches for not doing their jobs. Some people take it too far but this whole “say something bad about the team and you’re unappreciative and spoiled” is just lazy.

Haven't tallied, but I'd bet the negative comments out weigh the positive at least 5-1 including firing coaches, dissing one of the best Q'B in App history, belittling the kicker even though he just broke the conference record for most points scored, just to name a few.

Hell, we are 7-3.
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Re: Louisiana at APP Game Day Thread

Unread post by Yosef10 » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:15 am

appstatealum wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:39 am
Hard to blame Peterson when he is having to adapt play calls to the ups and downs ofnour O Line and the way Zac is throwing the ball. The games where our run game and QB are in rhythm, we can all agree that the play calling looks fluid.
4 returning starters on that line (and ranked 7th in the country by PFF) and a returning CPOY, gotta stop making excuses at some point. Gotta stop ignoring TP’s resume at some point. It’s hard for a line to block effectively when the play calling is so predictable and they can pin their ears back to get to the QB.

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Re: Louisiana at APP Game Day Thread

Unread post by Yosef10 » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:19 am

It’s funny to see those ripping Eli and Roof last year are the same protecting the staff this year. Only part of the reason I would’ve liked to avoid hiring an alum is all the obvious excuse making that would come along with it.

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Unread post by JohnnyBurrito » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:22 am

NewApp wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:50 am
TomA415 wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:17 am
NewApp wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:40 am
AppStateNews wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:37 am
Imagine a fan base where the kicker of the team has scored the most points in Sun Belt history but they still think the team needs to find a new kicker...



Finally a positive post from someone who makes sense. Maybe what we need is not a new QB, kicker, offensive coordinator, head coach, et. al, but a more appreciative fan base.
I don’t get this at all. Almost if not everyone in here is appreciative for this team, school and fan base or they wouldn’t be on the board to begin with.

However that doesn’t mean you can’t criticize players and coaches for not doing their jobs. Some people take it too far but this whole “say something bad about the team and you’re unappreciative and spoiled” is just lazy.

Haven't tallied, but I'd bet the negative comments out weigh the positive at least 5-1 including firing coaches, dissing one of the best Q'B in App history, belittling the kicker even though he just broke the conference record for most points scored, just to name a few.

Hell, we are 7-3.

We are 7-3 with a single win over a team with a winning record (Ga State 5-4).

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Re: Louisiana at APP Game Day Thread

Unread post by BeauFoster » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:29 am

TomA415 wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:17 am
NewApp wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:40 am
AppStateNews wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:37 am
Imagine a fan base where the kicker of the team has scored the most points in Sun Belt history but they still think the team needs to find a new kicker...

Finally a positive post from someone who makes sense. Maybe what we need is not a new QB, kicker, offensive coordinator, head coach, et. al, but a more appreciative fan base.
I don’t get this at all. Almost if not everyone in here is appreciative for this team, school and fan base or they wouldn’t be on the board to begin with.

However that doesn’t mean you can’t criticize players and coaches for not doing their jobs. Some people take it too far but this whole “say something bad about the team and you’re unappreciative and spoiled” is just lazy.
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Re: Louisiana at APP Game Day Thread

Unread post by appbio91 » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:46 am

ASUFan4863 wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:39 am
If changes aren’t made to the offensive staff then I’m done with Clark honestly. We can make all these COVID excuses that we want to but there’s isn’t any excuse for having Zac Thomas look inept with 40 passing yards through 3 quarters at HOME. This is crazy
I’ll bet you right now no major coaching changes will occur. Just like we will continue to run it up the gut on first down even when there is nothing there.

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Re: Louisiana at APP Game Day Thread

Unread post by BeauFoster » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:51 am

appbio91 wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:46 am
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Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:39 am
If changes aren’t made to the offensive staff then I’m done with Clark honestly. We can make all these COVID excuses that we want to but there’s isn’t any excuse for having Zac Thomas look inept with 40 passing yards through 3 quarters at HOME. This is crazy
I’ll bet you right now no major coaching changes will occur. Just like we will continue to run it up the gut on first down even when there is nothing there.
Unfortunately you are likely correct.

I’m willing to give Coach Clark a chance, but the rest are on a short, short leash.
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Unread post by mike87 » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:08 am

My opinion...last year Drink started trying to turn ZT into a pocket passer. Took out the roll out plays that utilized Z’s speed and mobility. Difference was that Drink was/is an A1 quarterback coach and was able to coach Zack into that style of play. Peterson doesn’t have that ability and is still forcing the system. It isn’t working. Z needs to run the ball on the edges.

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Re: Louisiana at APP Game Day Thread

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:14 am

Like most guys here I really don’t know crap about the nuances of play calling. Us armchair coaches act like the actual playbook has 1,000 different plays and that everything should be smooth as silk. Many times you call a play and expect (or hope) that the defense complies and you are able to gain big yards. Many times the defense doesn’t comply and you get stuffed. That being said shouldn’t an experienced QB like Zac be allowed to check down to a different play especially if the one called is the typical up the gut run but pre snap the box is loaded? Whatever happened to the read option that we ran with ZT for years? Did we try a single receiver screen last night? What completely baffles me is that we appear to go with one section of one page of the playbook one game then another section of one page the next. We run a cool, successful play one time but we never see it again. Zac was an exciting improvising player up until this season. Now he seems like he’s on restriction. He isn’t a game manager. Has he made some horrific throwing decisions this year? YES. Those are on him. Has he been held back from his usual dynamic potential? YES.

When is the last time a senior, returning POY showed this much regression in any other situation? I for one am completely baffled.

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Re: Louisiana at APP Game Day Thread

Unread post by PhillyApp » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:17 am

AppStateNews wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:37 am
Imagine a fan base where the kicker of the team has scored the most points in Sun Belt history but they still think the team needs to find a new kicker...
If you were confident in that last kick going through the uprights, you may have been the only App Fan in the nation feeling that way.... Stanton leads in points because we’ve had high powered offenses during his tenure, NOT because he’s an amazing kicker.
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Re: Louisiana at APP Game Day Thread

Unread post by js290 » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:24 am

Not a single game, win or loss, this season has made me feel like the head coaching hire was the right one.....the team is unorganized, undisciplined, lacks offensive creativity, horrible clock management....just gets more exposed when we have played teams with winning records.....it is very concerning in the long view. Need to stop with all the excuses, it is getting old.

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