Boise State gets massive donation

[AppStFan1]

This is huge for them. For those who keep saying we need NIL to get a QB or for transfers this is what some of us are talking about that you have to do something about it look for ways to acquire talent cheaper, which is high school recruiting. You have to give credit to Allen and Billie Dee Noble for stepping up. doing this. Do we have any big NIL proponents who can do this for us?

https://x.com/BJRains/status/1852007749942677814

[Mjohn1988]

This is huge for them. For those who keep saying we need NIL to get a QB or for transfers this is what some of us are talking about that you have to do something about it look for ways to acquire talent cheaper, which is high school recruiting. You have to give credit to Allen and Billie Dee Noble for stepping up. doing this. Do we have any big NIL proponents who can do this for us?

https://x.com/BJRains/status/1852007749942677814

No doubt this is big for them but I don’t think it can be used as NIL money. Having this money could give them the ability to ask other donors to donate to NIL collectives instead of directly to the university.

[AppStFan1]

This is huge for them. For those who keep saying we need NIL to get a QB or for transfers this is what some of us are talking about that you have to do something about it look for ways to acquire talent cheaper, which is high school recruiting. You have to give credit to Allen and Billie Dee Noble for stepping up. doing this. Do we have any big NIL proponents who can do this for us?

https://x.com/BJRains/status/1852007749942677814

No doubt this is big for them but I don’t think it can be used as NIL money. Having this money could give them the ability to ask other donors to donate to NIL collectives instead of directly to the university.

Agreed. My comments are based on a lot of what I am seeing on 247 and some on here. I just brought up NIL because I am saying if someone wants us to spend more then they should do what this couple has done to make an example. I am not going to complain about something unless I intend to be an example and help fix it. I think the AD, coach, etc should be the ones telling us what we lack in that regard. It will carry a lot more weight to help encourage others to give.

Our problem is not just a lack of NIL but we are not recruiting and developing HS talent good enough right now. We have many players who have not gotten better or taken a step back the last 2 years. We are changing our defense every year and taking 2 months to see the overall team play any better. I refuse to pump a dime into NIL until we fix the other issues. I hear others saying this and I agree 100% that we should be signing more HS players than portal players.

One big issue I have with the portal is you have such a small window to make that decision right after the season and it is much easier for a player or school to make a bad choice. I think we have to hit on high school recruiting a lot better than we are at the moment.

[Mjohn1988]

This is huge for them. For those who keep saying we need NIL to get a QB or for transfers this is what some of us are talking about that you have to do something about it look for ways to acquire talent cheaper, which is high school recruiting. You have to give credit to Allen and Billie Dee Noble for stepping up. doing this. Do we have any big NIL proponents who can do this for us?

https://x.com/BJRains/status/1852007749942677814

No doubt this is big for them but I don’t think it can be used as NIL money. Having this money could give them the ability to ask other donors to donate to NIL collectives instead of directly to the university.

Agreed. My comments are based on a lot of what I am seeing on 247 and some on here. I just brought up NIL because I am saying if someone wants us to spend more then they should do what this couple has done to make an example. I am not going to complain about something unless I intend to be an example and help fix it. I think the AD, coach, etc should be the ones telling us what we lack in that regard. It will carry a lot more weight to help encourage others to give.

Our problem is not just a lack of NIL but we are not recruiting and developing HS talent good enough right now. We have many players who have not gotten better or taken a step back the last 2 years. We are changing our defense every year and taking 2 months to see the overall team play any better. I refuse to pump a dime into NIL until we fix the other issues. I hear others saying this and I agree 100% that we should be signing more HS players than portal players.

One big issue I have with the portal is you have such a small window to make that decision right after the season and it is much easier for a player or school to make a bad choice. I think we have to hit on high school recruiting a lot better than we are at the moment.

I will never put one nickel into NIL. If a kid is good enough to get somebody to actually pay him for the actual use of his name, image or likeness, well great for him. We don’t have a single player on our roster who could make a real NIL deal and we might never have one. That’s not really a bust on our guys, it’s just reality. I think all G5 coaches and AD’s should tell players that they are not involved and will not be involved in NIL in any way. Tell them if they can get somebody to pay them that’s great. If this was done across the board in the G5 NIL issues would vanish overnight, because these kids would find out their name, image and likeness isn’t really marketable.

[AppStFan1]

This is huge for them. For those who keep saying we need NIL to get a QB or for transfers this is what some of us are talking about that you have to do something about it look for ways to acquire talent cheaper, which is high school recruiting. You have to give credit to Allen and Billie Dee Noble for stepping up. doing this. Do we have any big NIL proponents who can do this for us?

https://x.com/BJRains/status/1852007749942677814

No doubt this is big for them but I don’t think it can be used as NIL money. Having this money could give them the ability to ask other donors to donate to NIL collectives instead of directly to the university.

Agreed. My comments are based on a lot of what I am seeing on 247 and some on here. I just brought up NIL because I am saying if someone wants us to spend more then they should do what this couple has done to make an example. I am not going to complain about something unless I intend to be an example and help fix it. I think the AD, coach, etc should be the ones telling us what we lack in that regard. It will carry a lot more weight to help encourage others to give.

Our problem is not just a lack of NIL but we are not recruiting and developing HS talent good enough right now. We have many players who have not gotten better or taken a step back the last 2 years. We are changing our defense every year and taking 2 months to see the overall team play any better. I refuse to pump a dime into NIL until we fix the other issues. I hear others saying this and I agree 100% that we should be signing more HS players than portal players.

One big issue I have with the portal is you have such a small window to make that decision right after the season and it is much easier for a player or school to make a bad choice. I think we have to hit on high school recruiting a lot better than we are at the moment.

I will never put one nickel into NIL. If a kid is good enough to get somebody to actually pay him for the actual use of his name, image or likeness, well great for him. We don’t have a single player on our roster who could make a real NIL deal and we might never have one. That’s not really a bust on our guys, it’s just reality. I think all G5 coaches and AD’s should tell players that they are not involved and will not be involved in NIL in any way. Tell them if they can get somebody to pay them that’s great. If this was done across the board in the G5 NIL issues would vanish overnight, because these kids would find out their name, image and likeness isn’t really marketable.

I think Armanti Edwards would have made a good one. If a player has a name that fits a product then they can. I don't think we have anyone who has massive social media followers to where they could carry major weight outside of Boone or on campus right now though.

I agree that if coaches and ADs would do that across the board it would help but the issue is there will always be some schools who have donors desperate to win that will feed money to try and get the edge. I will give money for the good of the overall program to help all current and future players but I won't ever give to NIL. If we have folks who want to that is up to them but they don't need to remind us that we need to. If someone wants us to give to NIL then they need to give a big check and show proof first. Nobody should lecture if they aren't setting the example.

[Bigdaddyg1]

I simply can’t wrap my brain around the idea of “donating” money to some collective so that they can throw money at young adults to play a college sport all in hopes of a few more wins. If we go 8-4 without this insanity would people be happy writing checks to a collective so that we go 9-3? Will the general population of crazy App check writers be ok with a marginal return on investment? Just how much do you NIL advocates believe it will take at App State to reach the mythical plateau some aspire for? Is it a sure thing?

[GreatAppSt]

Well you know 25 Mil. is just not what it used to be, so there's that at least.

[AppStFan1]

I simply can’t wrap my brain around the idea of “donating” money to some collective so that they can throw money at young adults to play a college sport all in hopes of a few more wins. If we go 8-4 without this insanity would people be happy writing checks to a collective so that we go 9-3? Will the general population of crazy App check writers be ok with a marginal return on investment? Just how much do you NIL advocates believe it will take at App State to reach the mythical plateau some aspire for? Is it a sure thing?

Agreed. I heard someone say we need to give 3M but that will never happen. I am not saying it would completely avoid NIL but if we could get a QB out of HS that pans out I would imagine he would be cheaper than going to find a proven QB in the portal. It is not like we have flipped an all-conference QB from another school. Each of them were special situations anyway. Wiles was at Southern Miss and wanted to win while Brice was getting battered and Duke and the other was a backup.

Just throwing money at a problem does not fix it. I am willing to listen when they can guarantee us a SBC title and CFP berth but that could never be guaranteed.

[GoBoone]

I think NIL donors are gonna get tired of throwing money away eventually. I’m already there.

[appdaze]

What's Bill James doing these days? Maybe we can bring him down from Boston.

[AppStFan1]

I think NIL donors are gonna get tired of throwing money away eventually. I’m already there.

The mega rich ones are always going to do it. I have taken the stance I won't do it and want to see what rules they eventually decide on. There is no way the current landscape will be the same in 5 or even 3 years from now. Coaches will have to adapt to whatever the rules are but I think for a G5 school like us we always need to recruit HS well. One thing that will always remain the same though is that a coaching staff will be judged by wins and losses.