QB1 battle?

[GreatAppSt]

In my opinion, I'm uncertain about who will be the starting quarterback, especially with fifty days left until the season. However, I do have a gut feeling, and many of you know that I often struggle to articulate my insight. I believe—trying not to wear my Black and Gold-colored glasses— this about our team this year, that App State's football program has created a unique coaching staff that resembles Frankenstein's Monster. We, along with the entire Group of Five (G5), have never seen such a remarkable assembly of coaches and advisors as we have now. Yet, unlike Frankenstein's creation, our MONSTER is guided by a brilliant mind—Coach. Have any of you talked to him for more than two minutes? He possesses the intellect we've needed for a long time!

Next, have you been following the roster countdown? We can toss aside the old label of being small but fast. Hopefully, we're now both BIG and ........=FAST, the likes of which the SBC or G5 has never seen under one roof.

My instinct, echoed by many of you who have shared similar gut feelings over the years, is that we are on the verge of another unveiling like we had in 2018. When we all realized, "Wow, we have a quarterback" (Zach), though it might take until the second game (CCC) for that "wow" moment to hit this time. I feel it approaching! I could be wrong, some of my past expectations haven’t materialized, but I sense that I am onto something this time.

Will it all Gel??? Who knows. But i think in the now era gel is not the big stick it used to be as all teams because of NIL n' TP are patchwork parts put together yearly.

Feel free to share your thoughts.
GAS

Have at it.

[AppState89]

App State -8.5 vs Charlotte

Just saying.

They need to change it to -28!! We got a great QB1 and QB2 and our WRs overall will be the bet in the Sunbelt. Oh...we got great RBs too. The "D"???? who knows. If the defense can play well, we beat them like a drum. Just my opinion and how I feel.

[Yosef10]

I know hindsight is 20/20 but, I could easily see in the first few series of Burger vs same for Aguilar that Joey was obviously better. Keep in mind it was against inferior competition, Gardner Webb, and anybody we believed would have been the starter (and 1st or 2nd backup) should have been able to easily move the ball up and down the field. When Burger couldn't do it and appeared to struggle a red flag went up and told me he wasn't the guy. It appears to me that the old staff frequently saw what they wanted to see and that was probably part of their problem. Now there are multiple articles out saying Aquilar is one of the better players in college, yet our staff didn't think he should start.

https://www.si.com/college/ucla/bruins- ... volunteers

https://collegesportswire.usatoday.com/ ... 965170007/

Joey is ranked as the 11th best QB in the SEC. One must wait to see how he performs against that caliber competition. I have no idea what the coaches saw prior to the season's start but I think it presumptuous to assume that they only saw what they wanted and somehow overlooked Joey's talent. IIRC, it was battle up to the end of preseason. They may have seen Burger as the safer choice given Joey's gunslinger mentality.
I wasn't a great Ponce fan but he did coach two of the most prolific QBs in school history and did discover Joey in the Juco ranks.
None of what I have stated above is to suggest the coaching chane was unnecessary or unwarranted because I had reached that point myself but they are gone and to continue question their judgement seems pointless.

Not that it really makes a darn, but who missed getting Grayson McCall to Boone?

It’s July, without much to talk about, so I’ll bite.

I’ve never understood this, other than the fact that some folks just did not like Drinkwitz because he hurt their feelings by taking a much better gig after a year.

McCall went to App’s JR day in 2018. If he wanted to go to App so bad, why didn’t he commit between then and when Satt left for Louisville? Had a year and a half to do so. So the blame then falls to the guy who was hired on 12/13 when McCall signed with CCU on 12/19.

So you tell me who missed, the coach who had a year and a half to get the kid committed, or the guy who had 6 days.

[AppSt94]

Clark lobbied hard to get McCall. Drink decided to go with a guy that was on the other side of the country that by all accounts he had no previous relationship with. This was the first of two colossal misses at the QB position for Drink.

McCall likely didn’t commit because Satt had Conley rated higher on his board. He can committ but if the coach isn’t going to make it a committable offer then there is no point.

[ASUFan4863]

1. Shows how much Clark’s talent evaluation of Non-OL was valued by other coaches that he was not taken seriously and no other coach supported him.

2. When your biggest recruiting get is a guy who beat you 3 times, that’s not a gotcha.

3. Yosef10, you hit the nail on the head. The fanbase that hates Drink hates him because he left so quickly. He was a winner on the field but they despise him because they felt betrayed. That’s why they blamed Clark’s failures on Drink.

It’s a stark difference from the part of the fanbase who hates Clark. It’s not because they despise him as a person, it’s because he was a loser as a coach.

[BambooRdApp]

Well, maybe they should have listened and taken him seriously

[JTApps1]

1. Shows how much Clark’s talent evaluation of Non-OL was valued by other coaches that he was not taken seriously and no other coach supported him.

2. When your biggest recruiting get is a guy who beat you 3 times, that’s not a gotcha.

3. Yosef10, you hit the nail on the head. The fanbase that hates Drink hates him because he left so quickly. He was a winner on the field but they despise him because they felt betrayed. That’s why they blamed Clark’s failures on Drink.

It’s a stark difference from the part of the fanbase who hates Clark. It’s not because they despise him as a person, it’s because he was a loser as a coach.

Apparently Clark was right about McCall. Not sure how you can twist Drink not listening to him on one recruit as a knock on Shawn.

[AppSt94]

1. Shows how much Clark’s talent evaluation of Non-OL was valued by other coaches that he was not taken seriously and no other coach supported him.

2. When your biggest recruiting get is a guy who beat you 3 times, that’s not a gotcha.

3. Yosef10, you hit the nail on the head. The fanbase that hates Drink hates him because he left so quickly. He was a winner on the field but they despise him because they felt betrayed. That’s why they blamed Clark’s failures on Drink.

It’s a stark difference from the part of the fanbase who hates Clark. It’s not because they despise him as a person, it’s because he was a loser as a coach.

Apparently Clark was right about McCall. Not sure how you can twist Drink not listening to him on one recruit as a knock on Shawn.

Shawn must have slept with this guys wife. That the only reason I can think of for his hate.

[Yosef10]

Clark lobbied hard to get McCall. Drink decided to go with a guy that was on the other side of the country that by all accounts he had no previous relationship with. This was the first of two colossal misses at the QB position for Drink.

McCall likely didn’t commit because Satt had Conley rated higher on his board. He can committ but if the coach isn’t going to make it a committable offer then there is no point.

You would have only hoped Clark’s HS QB evaluations carried over to his head coaching tenure. Unfortunate that it didn’t.

[AppDub]

In my opinion, I'm uncertain about who will be the starting quarterback, especially with fifty days left until the season. However, I do have a gut feeling, and many of you know that I often struggle to articulate my insight. I believe—trying not to wear my Black and Gold-colored glasses— this about our team this year, that App State's football program has created a unique coaching staff that resembles Frankenstein's Monster. We, along with the entire Group of Five (G5), have never seen such a remarkable assembly of coaches and advisors as we have now. Yet, unlike Frankenstein's creation, our MONSTER is guided by a brilliant mind—Coach. Have any of you talked to him for more than two minutes? He possesses the intellect we've needed for a long time!

Next, have you been following the roster countdown? We can toss aside the old label of being small but fast. Hopefully, we're now both BIG and ........=FAST, the likes of which the SBC or G5 has never seen under one roof.

My instinct, echoed by many of you who have shared similar gut feelings over the years, is that we are on the verge of another unveiling like we had in 2018. When we all realized, "Wow, we have a quarterback" (Zach), though it might take until the second game (CCC) for that "wow" moment to hit this time. I feel it approaching! I could be wrong, some of my past expectations haven’t materialized, but I sense that I am onto something this time.

Will it all Gel??? Who knows. But i think in the now era gel is not the big stick it used to be as all teams because of NIL n' TP are patchwork parts put together yearly.

Feel free to share your thoughts.
GAS

Have at it.

I'm sold!!!! I too am optimistic and agree that DLO's intellect may be a difference maker. I love the professional approach as we are now watching professionals play on Saturdays.

[T-Dog]

Everyone mark the "DBG/McCall/Drink/Clark" space on your App State Off-Season Bingo cards.

[hapapp]

Objectivity is not in great supply on a message board. Two of the best QBs in school history played for Clark. To say that isn't an endorsement of his coaching tenure. It was time to turn the page but it's not like we had nothing but losing seasons under his leadership. Some of the more memorable wins in school history came during his time. And, the subtle slams on his intellect are cheap shots. Don't forget he is an App grad.

I'm looking forward DLO's first season at the helm. He seems to be what we need at this point in time. He has assembled a great staff, has done a good job in the portal, and seems to be putting together a great recruiting class. Most prognosticators are being cautious about our season's performance, which could be a good sign.

[Saint3333]

Satt was the perfect coach to transition us from FCS to FBS, understood the culture and surrounded himself with a good mix of culture guys, young hungry coaches, and experienced assistants. I think we're finding out the top of the G5 was a good fit for him as well. But congrats to him on taking that shot and wish him the best.

Drink was a good coach, he got a lot out of the players and was handed one of the most talented teams in our history. His weakness was a misunderstanding of the culture (GS game and recruiting misses).

Clark was a great person and position coach, could have maintained success if the college landscape had not changed dramatically. However the shifting of the rules of engagement and the speed in which it occurred was too much. And may be too much for any coach, but it was time to move on and hoping DL is that answer.

[AppinVA]

Satt was the perfect coach to transition us from FCS to FBS, understood the culture and surrounded himself with a good mix of culture guys, young hungry coaches, and experienced assistants. I think we're finding out the top of the G5 was a good fit for him as well. But congrats to him on taking that shot and wish him the best.

Drink was a good coach, he got a lot out of the players and was handed one of the most talented teams in our history. His weakness was a misunderstanding of the culture (GS game and recruiting misses).

Clark was a great person and position coach, could have maintained success if the college landscape had not changed dramatically. However the shifting of the rules of engagement and the speed in which it occurred was too much. And may be too much for any coach, but it was time to move on and hoping DL is that answer.

Unlike the former two, Clark wasn’t hungry to move up to the next job when the time was right. His crime was loving Appalachian to a fault. Can’t blame him. I’d probably be the same.

[AppStFan1]

In my opinion, I'm uncertain about who will be the starting quarterback, especially with fifty days left until the season. However, I do have a gut feeling, and many of you know that I often struggle to articulate my insight. I believe—trying not to wear my Black and Gold-colored glasses— this about our team this year, that App State's football program has created a unique coaching staff that resembles Frankenstein's Monster. We, along with the entire Group of Five (G5), have never seen such a remarkable assembly of coaches and advisors as we have now. Yet, unlike Frankenstein's creation, our MONSTER is guided by a brilliant mind—Coach. Have any of you talked to him for more than two minutes? He possesses the intellect we've needed for a long time!

Next, have you been following the roster countdown? We can toss aside the old label of being small but fast. Hopefully, we're now both BIG and ........=FAST, the likes of which the SBC or G5 has never seen under one roof.

My instinct, echoed by many of you who have shared similar gut feelings over the years, is that we are on the verge of another unveiling like we had in 2018. When we all realized, "Wow, we have a quarterback" (Zach), though it might take until the second game (CCC) for that "wow" moment to hit this time. I feel it approaching! I could be wrong, some of my past expectations haven’t materialized, but I sense that I am onto something this time.

Will it all Gel??? Who knows. But i think in the now era gel is not the big stick it used to be as all teams because of NIL n' TP are patchwork parts put together yearly.

Feel free to share your thoughts.
GAS

Have at it.

I am not sure either but I can tell listening to Loggains that he has a clubhouse leader for QB. He won’t say because he has 3 that show things he likes and wants to keep them competitive so the leader doesn’t get complacent. I don’t blame him and would be happy if nobody knows the starter until they walk out on the field on the first offensive play on week one.

[311neers]

In my opinion, I'm uncertain about who will be the starting quarterback, especially with fifty days left until the season. However, I do have a gut feeling, and many of you know that I often struggle to articulate my insight. I believe—trying not to wear my Black and Gold-colored glasses— this about our team this year, that App State's football program has created a unique coaching staff that resembles Frankenstein's Monster. We, along with the entire Group of Five (G5), have never seen such a remarkable assembly of coaches and advisors as we have now. Yet, unlike Frankenstein's creation, our MONSTER is guided by a brilliant mind—Coach. Have any of you talked to him for more than two minutes? He possesses the intellect we've needed for a long time!

Next, have you been following the roster countdown? We can toss aside the old label of being small but fast. Hopefully, we're now both BIG and ........=FAST, the likes of which the SBC or G5 has never seen under one roof.

My instinct, echoed by many of you who have shared similar gut feelings over the years, is that we are on the verge of another unveiling like we had in 2018. When we all realized, "Wow, we have a quarterback" (Zach), though it might take until the second game (CCC) for that "wow" moment to hit this time. I feel it approaching! I could be wrong, some of my past expectations haven’t materialized, but I sense that I am onto something this time.

Will it all Gel??? Who knows. But i think in the now era gel is not the big stick it used to be as all teams because of NIL n' TP are patchwork parts put together yearly.

Feel free to share your thoughts.
GAS

Have at it.

I am not sure either but I can tell listening to Loggains that he has a clubhouse leader for QB. He won’t say because he has 3 that show things he likes and wants to keep them competitive so the leader doesn’t get complacent. I don’t blame him and would be happy if nobody knows the starter until they walk out on the field on the first offensive play on week one.

They’ve got their guy. They’ve told coaches on the trail who the leader is. Can help with recruiting. “Hey man, want to come catch passes from ______”. (Hopefully the qb doesn’t transfer after a year haha)

[BambooRdApp]

Maybe I am wrong, if the coach has not communicated to the players on the current team who the leader in the clubhouse is ...would they really be telling recruits? That stuff gets back up the mountain as recruits come back up to campus. Seems it would be a big risk in losing trust with players on the actual team.

Hey coach, you are telling recruits to come to App. St. to catch balls from QB1, however, you have not told us ("us" being the current QBs on the team). That would seem to be a big credibility issue if I am a current QB on the team. Just my opinion.

[Yosef84]

Putting the season on one game is comical to me. We have many holes to fill and trying to fill them over time. We have a coach who has never been an HC.
Charlotte brought in an experienced HC who has won at his previous place.
Do I have faith we will win? Yes.
Is the sky falling if we do not? No

Maintaining distance between us and UNCC is critical to our local brand.

Losing one game to UNCC should not have a significant impact to our local brand. If it does, our brand wasn't what some people think it was. Several, yes, that is a trend

I agree. As much as I would absolutely HATE losing to Charlotte, it really doesn't impact us regionally as much as some seem to think. Frankly, only a fraction of the public actually knows we are playing. It would cause a blip among college football fans, but mostly it would just be message board fodder for the two schools and conferences.

[311neers]

Maybe I am wrong, if the coach has not communicated to the players on the current team who the leader in the clubhouse is ...would they really be telling recruits? That stuff gets back up the mountain as recruits come back up to campus. Seems it would be a big risk in losing trust with players on the actual team.

Hey coach, you are telling recruits to come to App. St. to catch balls from QB1, however, you have not told us ("us" being the current QBs on the team). That would seem to be a big credibility issue if I am a current QB on the team. Just my opinion.

The kids on the team know who’s taking 1st team reps and who’s not.
I can see your point, though.

[AppSt94]

Maybe I am wrong, if the coach has not communicated to the players on the current team who the leader in the clubhouse is ...would they really be telling recruits? That stuff gets back up the mountain as recruits come back up to campus. Seems it would be a big risk in losing trust with players on the actual team.

Hey coach, you are telling recruits to come to App. St. to catch balls from QB1, however, you have not told us ("us" being the current QBs on the team). That would seem to be a big credibility issue if I am a current QB on the team. Just my opinion.

Agree. I doubt that coaches are telling coaches and recruits who the QB is. You are either controlling the narrative by limiting information available or you are letting it be known.