ACC

[AppfaninCAALand]

Indiana and Duke woke up today P4 conference champs. What a wild season.

How long will the Clemsons, Penn States, and Floridas of the world tolerate the likes of Duke, Virginia, Indiana, Georgia Tech, and Vanderbilt being good before they start calling to go back to the old ways of college football?

[AppStFan1]

You also have to look at what Indiana was prior to Cignetti getting to Indiana.

Why should we? This is a what can be, not a what was discussion right? If the money offered recruits is the same (and it will be you'll have to trust me here) for IU the best players will be Cignetti's to handpick from.

We should because he has taken a bad program and made them a powerhouse whereas some coaches out there have taken powerhouses with tradition and made them a program that can't get to bowl games. I know they are going to offer more but my whole point is that Cignetti can do more with less and he knows how to find best finds very well. He does not need equal money to beat teams. He does a great job. Many of their star players began at JMU so he clearly knows where to get them. He also might be the best head coach at developing quarterbacks in the country. I would say it is between him and Kiffin.

[BambooRdApp]

It is not many of their star players are JMU players. They had 13 come over and some of them graduated last year.

[AppStFan1]

It is not many of their star players are JMU players. They had 13 come over and some of them graduated last year.

Several of their star players came from JMU actually. Fisher, Ponds, Sarratt, Kamara, Black, and Tucker is a very strong list from JMU.

[Stonewall]

ACC is on fumes. 2029 ?

[AppStFan1]

ACC is on fumes. 2029 ?

It would not shock me. It is going to be interesting to see how it plays out. It really should be P3 now. Once Clemson, UNC, and FSU leave the ACC we will become a G7 with Pac-12 and ACC losing all their powers.

[JTApps1]

ACC is on fumes. 2029 ?

It would not shock me. It is going to be interesting to see how it plays out. It really should be P3 now. Once Clemson, UNC, and FSU leave the ACC we will become a G7 with Pac-12 and ACC losing all their powers.

Add Miami to that list as well. The rest of the league offers little to nothing to the Power 2. The Big 12 has a few attractive teams but not a ton.

[Saint3333]

Agree on Cig , no doubt that as of today, he is on top.

Look at his support staff and assistants as well. He has great people around him. Think about what he is doing at Indiana and imagine what he could do with the resources of Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia, Texas, etc. People use the word incredible way too much but what he has done is incredible.

Please stop, IU does have these recourses and most are better. top 15 Med school and largest in the U.S, Dental school, Law school, School of Business # 10 nationally, school of banking # 9 nationally, School of nursing 13th nationally. endowment wise square in the middle of the schools you listed. That will be changing soon with the winning streak. you should be asking imagine what he could do with the resources of IU?

Spot on. The farce that Indiana, Duke, and Vandy magically all hired the best coaches at the same time and took historically 4th quartile programs in their respective conferences to top quartile (or top third) in two years ignores another variable called NIL. The biggest winners of the NIL era are 2nd and 3rd "tier" programs in power conferences that can pull bench players from first tier power conferences and starters from G6 programs via the TP and NIL.

[BambooRdApp]

Agree on Cig , no doubt that as of today, he is on top.

Look at his support staff and assistants as well. He has great people around him. Think about what he is doing at Indiana and imagine what he could do with the resources of Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia, Texas, etc. People use the word incredible way too much but what he has done is incredible.

Please stop, IU does have these recourses and most are better. top 15 Med school and largest in the U.S, Dental school, Law school, School of Business # 10 nationally, school of banking # 9 nationally, School of nursing 13th nationally. endowment wise square in the middle of the schools you listed. That will be changing soon with the winning streak. you should be asking imagine what he could do with the resources of IU?

Spot on. The farce that Indiana, Duke, and Vandy magically all hired the best coaches at the same time and took historically 4th quartile programs in their respective conferences to top quartile (or top third) in two years ignores another variable called NIL. The biggest winners of the NIL era are 2nd and 3rd "tier" programs in power conferences that can pull bench players from first tier power conferences and starters from G6 programs via the TP and NIL.

Add Texas Tech..the Landman deep pockets have ponied up.

[MAD Doctor]

Conference re-alignment used to cause me a little excitement and wishful thinking. After getting overlooked and screwed every single time, it now causes nothing but dread and trepidation. Our history and brand has meant nothing and the “market mentality” has led to some of the worst programs in the nation being promoted every round (not mentioning any names). We’ll likely watch Georgia State, JMU, and a couple others move to a depleted AAC and we’ll replace them with a few SoCon teams. It all sucks, now worse than ever. Sorry for the Monday blahs, but prove me wrong.

[AppStFan1]

ACC is on fumes. 2029 ?

It would not shock me. It is going to be interesting to see how it plays out. It really should be P3 now. Once Clemson, UNC, and FSU leave the ACC we will become a G7 with Pac-12 and ACC losing all their powers.

Add Miami to that list as well. The rest of the league offers little to nothing to the Power 2. The Big 12 has a few attractive teams but not a ton.

That is true. It will be interesting to see which conference each of those teams in both leagues ends up in.

[Yosef84]

The AAC is running on fumes and past reputation. The Belt is down this year, but won't stay down. The AAC will get raided for talent this off season just like the SBC did last year and the Belt will cycle to the top....with the new PAC 12 (or whatever they ultimately call themselves) as the biggest obstacle to the top of the G6....of course, then they will get raided as well. It's going to be a cycle.

[rbarthle17]

The gulf between the haves and have nots grows daily in this sport. The stories to watch over the next 5 years or so are going to be there tales of how painfully obvious it will be that teams are have-nots but can't come to grips with reality. And eventually how they are forced to see the light one way or another.

Unless there is radical change in CFB, the truth is we don't belong on the same field as the P2. It's a different game they can play than we can. At best case, we may have a handful of players that could even make their roster. I am more than happy to have games against the P2 in the regular season. But if they are serious about the playoffs being legitimately the best (x) teams being in there, then that might include 1-2 teams from outside the B1G and SEC, and the band aid needs to be pulled off and let them go their own way, and we go ours when it comes to postseason.