Birmingham Bowl

[mountaineerman]

It appears we are losing our OL coach as well.

Don’t see that as a bad thing

Yeah we can only go up from where we’ve been at.

[Yosefus]

Just now seeing this. Had resigned myself to that was it for the season! Well, I said it on my company conference call this morning and it still fits. It's Jimmy V week and as he said it best "Don't Give Up, Don't Ever Give Up!" Go Mountaineers!!!

[WASU 93]

I know everyone talks about extra practices, but we practiced in Spring Ball, summer workouts and for 13-14 weeks this season. We have injuries.
Are we going to gain that much from extra practices in the era of the portal?

If the players want to play, then I support it. Life is too short and you only get X amount of times to suit up.

Plus, another game of game management experience for our head coach has to be worth something.

I've never gotten worse when putting structure time into learning an activity.

What's the down side to playing this game? Probably the biggest one is someone balls out on TV and gets noticed. I'll take the extra reps and experience for the seniors at that risk.

I’m not against playing the game. My question was merely about extra practice and is it the benefit it once was?
Five years ago, you would use it as developmental time for your returning players to build for the next season. Now, is there enough consistency among the roster to get the same benefit?

[Yosefus]

Screw it. Let's play ball! Win or Lose. Of course it would be catastrophic to lose to Stink 2x in 1 season. We got it, Let's plat!

[Saint3333]

I know everyone talks about extra practices, but we practiced in Spring Ball, summer workouts and for 13-14 weeks this season. We have injuries.
Are we going to gain that much from extra practices in the era of the portal?

If the players want to play, then I support it. Life is too short and you only get X amount of times to suit up.

Plus, another game of game management experience for our head coach has to be worth something.

I've never gotten worse when putting structure time into learning an activity.

What's the down side to playing this game? Probably the biggest one is someone balls out on TV and gets noticed. I'll take the extra reps and experience for the seniors at that risk.

I’m not against playing the game. My question was merely about extra practice and is it the benefit it once was?
Five years ago, you would use it as developmental time for your returning players to build for the next season. Now, is there enough consistency among the roster to get the same benefit?

Is it as valuable? Likely not, but there is some value above not having them.

[DoesntEvenGoHere]

High School signees can practice if they are on campus.

[biggie]

Georgia Southern is favored by 2.5...why anyone would bet when we are not clear who is suiting up for whom seems dumb to me.

There are a few games with a 1.5 line, but this is expected to be one of the closest Bowl games of the season.

I did. Spread will grow when they see how many we aren’t playing.

[wb247]

Excited that we get more football!! In a related thought, schools that opt out should be ineligible the following season.

[AppStFan1]

Excited that we get more football!! In a related thought, schools that opt out should be ineligible the following season.

Many schools opt out because they won't have enough players to play or look at the expenses and payout to see they would lose money. When we have so many bowls that we have teams with losing records being picked we have too many bowls and makes them meaningless. I can 100% understand why some schools won't do it. The only reason we have so many bowls is because ESPN wants the programming due to their awful ratings when they don't have live programming.

[RaleighApp27609]

Excited that we get more football!! In a related thought, schools that opt out should be ineligible the following season.

Many schools opt out because they won't have enough players to play or look at the expenses and payout to see they would lose money. When we have so many bowls that we have teams with losing records being picked we have too many bowls and makes them meaningless. I can 100% understand why some schools won't do it. The only reason we have so many bowls is because ESPN wants the programming due to their awful ratings when they don't have live programming.

Is it safe to assume you won't be watching the game on 12/29 due to being unhappy with the bowl invite?

[ASUTodd]

Excited that we get more football!! In a related thought, schools that opt out should be ineligible the following season.

Many schools opt out because they won't have enough players to play or look at the expenses and payout to see they would lose money. When we have so many bowls that we have teams with losing records being picked we have too many bowls and makes them meaningless. I can 100% understand why some schools won't do it. The only reason we have so many bowls is because ESPN wants the programming due to their awful ratings when they don't have live programming.

Is it safe to assume you won't be watching the game on 12/29 due to being unhappy with the bowl invite?

Initially I was against us taking this invite but I've come around and realize that if I was a player I would want one more game.

[RankinApp]

I did. Spread will grow when they see how many we aren’t playing.

It's not like Southern is suiting up a full team. I'm sure they're dealing with portal losses as well.

I tried to take a peek at GSU Fans and rolled my eyes because their board is unavailable to view individual threads without registering. Wusses.

[AppStFan1]

Excited that we get more football!! In a related thought, schools that opt out should be ineligible the following season.

Many schools opt out because they won't have enough players to play or look at the expenses and payout to see they would lose money. When we have so many bowls that we have teams with losing records being picked we have too many bowls and makes them meaningless. I can 100% understand why some schools won't do it. The only reason we have so many bowls is because ESPN wants the programming due to their awful ratings when they don't have live programming.

Is it safe to assume you won't be watching the game on 12/29 due to being unhappy with the bowl invite?

I will watch but my point is that I can understand why schools would back out. It would not be right to force schools between losing money or being embarrassed and being banned from the postseason next year. What if that team is good enough to make the playoff the next year? I am sympathetic to why schools don't want to play in a meaningless bowl game. I can also see why some players would want to play in this. Everyone has different reasons and you can't force players to play in a game that they feel is not in their best interest.

I know we have had a few players post excitement for the game online but it is nowhere near 50+ or so we would need to have the numbers to practice and play the game. Someone on 247 said we did not have a team meeting to make sure we would have enough so will we have enough who say yes? I sure hope so. If we are short in personnel we could have to make significant scheme adjustments as well.

[biggie]

I did. Spread will grow when they see how many we aren’t playing.

It's not like Southern is suiting up a full team. I'm sure they're dealing with portal losses as well.

I tried to take a peek at GSU Fans and rolled my eyes because their board is unavailable to view individual threads without registering. Wusses.

I registered a long time ago, so I browse occasionally

[BambooRdApp]

At the beginning of each season, every school knows the playing ground. You win enough games, you are potentially in the cfp. If you have a decent record, you will be on invited to a bowl game. You also know, that depending on your record, you may not be invited to an elite bowl. You also know that there is potential that you may be invited to a bowl that you may not make money as a result of whatever bowl you are in invited. These rules are known. It is bullshit to opt out of a bowl game because you did not make the cfp or you did not get the bowl of choice.

On the idea of players but playing in games in their best interest... So, players should pick and choose games to play. Oh, I am not going to play against Lindenwood in an OOC game because it is meaningless.
In addition, companies that sponsor the bowls spend quite a bit of money to plan and prep. Do, yes, teams should be penalized in some form or fashion they opt out. I believe you opt out only if not enough players to play the game.

IMO, no bowl game is meaningless. An established player gets another opportunity to show talent and some young players get reps. You can find positives in many situations.
Overall, I am glad App. St. stepped up and is deciding to play.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

At the beginning of each season, every school knows the playing ground. You win enough games, you are potentially in the cfp. If you have a decent record, you will be on invited to a bowl game. You also know, that depending on your record, you may not be invited to an elite bowl. You also know that there is potential that you may be invited to a bowl that you may not make money as a result of whatever bowl you are in invited. These rules are known. It is bullshit to opt out of a bowl game because you did not make the cfp or you did not get the bowl of choice.

On the idea of players but playing in games in their best interest... So, players should pick and choose games to play. Oh, I am not going to play against Lindenwood in an OOC game because it is meaningless.
In addition, companies that sponsor the bowls spend quite a bit of money to plan and prep. Do, yes, teams should be penalized in some form or fashion they opt out. I believe you opt out only if not enough players to play the game.

IMO, no bowl game is meaningless. An established player gets another opportunity to show talent and some young players get reps. You can find positives in many situations.
Overall, I am glad App. St. stepped up and is deciding to play.

I do prefer to see players and coaches finish the season, the entire season, but I would never suggest a player play in a sport that can injure you like football can because a company bought some adds and sponsorships.

[RaleighApp27609]

At the beginning of each season, every school knows the playing ground. You win enough games, you are potentially in the cfp. If you have a decent record, you will be on invited to a bowl game. You also know, that depending on your record, you may not be invited to an elite bowl. You also know that there is potential that you may be invited to a bowl that you may not make money as a result of whatever bowl you are in invited. These rules are known. It is bullshit to opt out of a bowl game because you did not make the cfp or you did not get the bowl of choice.

On the idea of players but playing in games in their best interest... So, players should pick and choose games to play. Oh, I am not going to play against Lindenwood in an OOC game because it is meaningless.
In addition, companies that sponsor the bowls spend quite a bit of money to plan and prep. Do, yes, teams should be penalized in some form or fashion they opt out. I believe you opt out only if not enough players to play the game.

IMO, no bowl game is meaningless. An established player gets another opportunity to show talent and some young players get reps. You can find positives in many situations.
Overall, I am glad App. St. stepped up and is deciding to play.

Agreed, especially on the no bowl game is meaningless part. My view is this is another opportunity to be on national TV and win more hardware for the trophy case. In my opinion more hardware adds to our program's tradition regardless of the bowl.

[BambooRdApp]

At the beginning of each season, every school knows the playing ground. You win enough games, you are potentially in the cfp. If you have a decent record, you will be on invited to a bowl game. You also know, that depending on your record, you may not be invited to an elite bowl. You also know that there is potential that you may be invited to a bowl that you may not make money as a result of whatever bowl you are in invited. These rules are known. It is bullshit to opt out of a bowl game because you did not make the cfp or you did not get the bowl of choice.

On the idea of players but playing in games in their best interest... So, players should pick and choose games to play. Oh, I am not going to play against Lindenwood in an OOC game because it is meaningless.
In addition, companies that sponsor the bowls spend quite a bit of money to plan and prep. Do, yes, teams should be penalized in some form or fashion they opt out. I believe you opt out only if not enough players to play the game.

IMO, no bowl game is meaningless. An established player gets another opportunity to show talent and some young players get reps. You can find positives in many situations.
Overall, I am glad App. St. stepped up and is deciding to play.

I do prefer to see players and coaches finish the season, the entire season, but I would never suggest a player play in a sport that can injure you like football can because a company bought some adds and sponsorships.

They can get injured in games 1-12, 13. They know what they signed up for.

[wb247]

What if that team is good enough to make the playoff the next year?

Womp. Womp.

I was specifically thinking about ND when I said an opt-out should include a ban the following year, not the handful of 5-7 schools ahead of us in the APR.

You wanna go home and cry because you didn't make the playoffs?? You get an extra year to think about how badly the committee hurt your little feelings.

If you dont finish the regular season bowl-eligible, you shouldn't be penalized for mothballing your locker room and transitioning to off-season mode.

[biggie]

They will need to come up with a punishment for eligible teams that decline unless there is a valid excuse. But that would probably drive the powerful schools to form their own league away from the ncaa/rules.