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Re: Beer sales

Unread post by AppGrad1 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:11 pm

huskie3 wrote:I vote NO! I do not drink and I certainly do not want it spilled on me by an excited or clumsy person.

Agreed. I want no part of ASU selling beer at the games.
Encouraging drunks to drink more to get even drunker causes nothing but more problems.

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Re: Beer sales

Unread post by moonshine » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:20 pm

ASUMountaineer wrote:Hey, shine...I'm aiming low here. We have to walk before we can run!
Shoot for the stars man! My line of thinking was to keep to our roots. Sales of shine could lead to the crowd "blacking out" making them forget the game and having to purchase an AppStatetv subscription. Bam! Two new revenue streams!!! :ugeek:
huskie3 wrote:I vote NO! I do not drink and I certainly do not want it spilled on me by an excited or clumsy person.
This is the most likely outcome. I remember going to my first college football game back in the late 80's early 90's at an ACC venue and cups of beer raining down from the upper deck. Assuming something of this nature does happen, maybe they could restrict drinking to certain "Yosef Club" sections.
DoubleA wrote:ASU is complicit in enforcement of underage drinking laws on campus and won't think twice before callimg Boone PD to enforce. To allow sales on campus seems just a bit hypocritical, iMO. My how things have changed from the days of legal drinking at age 18 and on- campus keg parties!
How is allowing alcohol sales on campus to people of legal age hypocritical? I could agree with your statement if they were selling alcohol to underage students but then that would be illegal to begin with.
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Re: Beer sales

Unread post by Gonzo » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:28 pm

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huskie3 wrote:I vote NO! I do not drink and I certainly do not want it spilled on me by an excited or clumsy person.

Agreed. I want no part of ASU selling beer at the games.
Encouraging drunks to drink more to get even drunker causes nothing but more problems.
Yeah. Better close all the bars and restaurants as well. While we're at it, let's require chastity belts for all game-goers. And stop all that devil music they play during the game. We should all take communion when we enter the gates for good measure. :lol:

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Re: Beer sales

Unread post by 97grad » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:40 pm

huskie3 wrote:I vote NO! I do not drink and I certainly do not want it spilled on me by an excited or clumsy person.
But Pepsi is ok? What about Pepsi with bourbon? Beer isn't sticky when it dries.

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Re: Beer sales

Unread post by TheMoody1 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:43 pm

huskie3 wrote:I vote NO! I do not drink and I certainly do not want it spilled on me by an excited or clumsy person.
Don't drink? Do you get an IV? The worst thing that ever happpened to me was when an "excited or clumsy" eight year old spilled a whole coke down my back. I vote NO! for that. :lol: :lol:

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Re: Beer sales

Unread post by Gonzo » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:46 pm

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Re: Beer sales

Unread post by appst89 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:48 pm

There are already drunks in the stadium spilling drinks all over the place. I doubt that beer sales would change that at all.

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Re: Beer sales

Unread post by Gonzo » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:59 pm

appst89 wrote:There are already drunks in the stadium spilling drinks all over the place. I doubt that beer sales would change that at all.
I once saw a guy smuggle a pony keg into the stadium on the back of a wheel chair by passing it off as an oxygen tank.

I know a guy who sneaks in a bottle of champagne to every game. He's probably reading this post right now. ;)

I haven't been to a game without whiskey in my pocket in years.

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Re: Beer sales

Unread post by Maddog1956 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:11 pm

97grad wrote:
huskie3 wrote:I vote NO! I do not drink and I certainly do not want it spilled on me by an excited or clumsy person.
But Pepsi is ok? What about Pepsi with bourbon? Beer isn't sticky when it dries.
Then they could sell rain gear. It could be designed with a pop up straw in the collar so everything spilled on the wearer wouldn't' be wasted. The pocket that collected the spillover would be called brewski butt.
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Re: Beer sales

Unread post by ASUMountaineer » Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:15 pm

Gonzo wrote:
appst89 wrote:There are already drunks in the stadium spilling drinks all over the place. I doubt that beer sales would change that at all.
I once saw a guy smuggle a pony keg into the stadium on the back of a wheel chair by passing it off as an oxygen tank.

I know a guy who sneaks in a bottle of campaign to every game. He's probably reading this post right now. ;)

I haven't been to a game without whiskey in my pocket in years.

The enemies of pleasure are powerless to stop the masses from enjoying themselves :twisted:
Who could this person be sneaking in champagne?!?!? :lol:
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Re: Beer sales

Unread post by T-Dog » Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:08 pm

I for one believe the 3.5 hour rule on tailgate drinking promotes binge drinking since students try to catch up by shotgunning beers.

Selling beer in the stadium concessions isn't a horribly bad thing. It's how it's done is the problem. Some of the other sports run concessions at various games to get a cut of the money for their program. Many of those student-athletes are under 21. You couldn't do it there. You'd have to set up kiosks with well-trained people running them.

It can be really profitable, but it would have to go through the UNC System so all 16 campuses would see the change.

Some people will drink to get drunk and make fools of themselves. No amount of regulations will stop them.

They should sell beer at the Holmes Center. God knows we've needed it the last year-plus.

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Re: Beer sales

Unread post by AppGrad1 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:10 pm

Gonzo wrote:
AppGrad1 wrote:
huskie3 wrote:I vote NO! I do not drink and I certainly do not want it spilled on me by an excited or clumsy person.

Agreed. I want no part of ASU selling beer at the games.
Encouraging drunks to drink more to get even drunker causes nothing but more problems.
Yeah. Better close all the bars and restaurants as well. While we're at it, let's require chastity belts for all game-goers. And stop all that devil music they play during the game. We should all take communion when we enter the gates for good measure. :lol:

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Re: Beer sales

Unread post by Maddog1956 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:09 pm

T-Dog wrote:I for one believe the 3.5 hour rule on tailgate drinking promotes binge drinking since students try to catch up by shotgunning beers.

Selling beer in the stadium concessions isn't a horribly bad thing. It's how it's done is the problem. Some of the other sports run concessions at various games to get a cut of the money for their program. Many of those student-athletes are under 21. You couldn't do it there. You'd have to set up kiosks with well-trained people running them.

It can be really profitable, but it would have to go through the UNC System so all 16 campuses would see the change.

Some people will drink to get drunk and make fools of themselves. No amount of regulations will stop them.

They should sell beer at the Holmes Center. God knows we've needed it the last year-plus.
I agree, plus it seems funny that a student can go "Brew School" and get a major in Fermentation Sciences but then we act like it's not something we don't want to be involved with at a sport event.

We should be brewing craft beer in class and selling it at the stadium and make it something unique and something we should be proud of.
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Re: Beer sales

Unread post by DoubleA » Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:25 pm

Selling alcohol at college sporting events is just another step in the direction of professionalizing college sports. Next up, beer sponsors for ASU sports. How ironic that we are all too happy to profit from a product that: 1) is illegal for most of our athletes to use and 2) has played a hand in numerous discipline problems with ASU students and athletes alike.

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Unread post by AppHokie » Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:39 pm

While I respect the personal opinions on drinking and the impact it may have on your game experience, more interested in thoughts on why/if it is successful at Syracuse/WVU/ULM/ULL/etc. Would the revenue help offset student athletic fees or supplement other athletic programs at App State? Do you think with a new athletic director in the near future that this will get serious consideration given that there is a large tab left on the campus athletic enhancements?

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Unread post by 97grad » Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:49 pm

DoubleA wrote:Selling alcohol at college sporting events is just another step in the direction of professionalizing college sports. Next up, beer sponsors for ASU sports. How ironic that we are all too happy to profit from a product that: 1) is illegal for most of our athletes to use and 2) has played a hand in numerous discipline problems with ASU students and athletes alike.
It is a legal product for a very large percentage of attendees. And I'd wager that many if not most of the discipline problems were for students and athletes for whom it was not legal. If it was done I'd like to see it limited to a few stands selling quality NC microbrews. Anyone who has seen what quality brews sell for at sporting events would know that not many folks are going to binging on $10 beers.

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Re: Beer sales

Unread post by APPARJ » Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:00 pm

DoubleA wrote:Selling alcohol at college sporting events is just another step in the direction of professionalizing college sports. Next up, beer sponsors for ASU sports. How ironic that we are all too happy to profit from a product that: 1) is illegal for most of our athletes to use and 2) has played a hand in numerous discipline problems with ASU students and athletes alike.
Irony is thinking thousands of alumni drinking beer all over campus right up until kickoff and not inside the stadium protects the integrity of college sports.

DoubleA, who would you rather sit beside?

A.) a guy that's buys 2 or 3 beers at the concession stand

B.) a guy that smuggles in a bottle of liquor and buys 3 dollar Pepsis

Selling beer at the concession stands doesn't change anything about college sports.
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Re: Beer sales

Unread post by NewApp » Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:28 pm

For the most part, I will try to stay out this conversation except to say:

There is enough alcohol consumed in the hours before the games in the seemingly hundreds of tail gate spots on and off campus, coupled with the alcohol guzzled in the dorms/apartments both prior to and after the game, along with that in the bars/restaurants, also both before and after the games, that surely fans can do without a few beers inside the stadium. To boot, if we have to depend on even a small part on alcohol sales inside the stadium to finance our move to FBS, then somebody in fund raising for the athletic department needs to find another career.
I may be the only one, but I don't give a rip what they do or how they do it at Syracuse/Syracuse/WVU/ULM/ULL/ or others.
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Re: Beer sales

Unread post by APPARJ » Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:12 pm

NewApp wrote:For the most part, I will try to stay out this conversation except to say:

There is enough alcohol consumed in the hours before the games in the seemingly hundreds of tail gate spots on and off campus, coupled with the alcohol guzzled in the dorms/apartments both prior to and after the game, along with that in the bars/restaurants, also both before and after the games, that surely fans can do without a few beers inside the stadium. To boot, if we have to depend on even a small part on alcohol sales inside the stadium to finance our move to FBS, then somebody in fund raising for the athletic department needs to find another career.
I may be the only one, but I don't give a rip what they do or how they do it at Syracuse/Syracuse/WVU/ULM/ULL/ or others.
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1.) That is a lot of generalization. What about the fan who can only make it to Boone 30 minutes before kickoff and wants a couple of beers during the almost 4 hours he or she is in KBS? Sweeping generalizations like this really bug me.

2.) If 5,000 beers are sold per game at $8 per, that's almost a $250,000 each season. I don't think that's a crazy estimate and you don't think our athletic department would greatly benefit from that revenue?

3.) Really, this is all about meeting demand. Plain and simple. The University is actually quite terrible at doing this too so selling beer at games would be a step in the right direction. Example, the bookstore closes at 6 on game day even though there are thousands of parents and alumni pouring out of the stadium after a big win ready to fork over some cash for that polo, sweatshirt or hoodie they weren't willing to buy before the game.
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Re: Beer sales

Unread post by Maddog1956 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:13 pm

Like it or not APPState has already made a commitment to profit (or break even) on this product by creating a Fermentation Sciences major. So it's somewhat hypocritical that then the university should be ashamed of it or try to hide from it. If it's a bad product we should stay 100% clear of it. But that's not the case. The university has accepted it as a product that's ok to be associated with. It's a product that just like drugs, guns, etc can be used in a good way or bad way. So to me if we feel it's ok to associate/teach it, we should embrace it, allow it to be sold at games and show that it can be used responsibly, instead of turning our heads and winking while we say "we don't allow drinking at our games" (yeah right).
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