Whats the deal??

contenderv07 · Unread post by **contenderv07** » Sun Oct 21, 2012 3:25 pm

this is my first post on this forum although I've been lurking on AGS for awhile. I played football for App, as well as have a long lineage of football in my family. The reason I say all of this is I watch other things during plays that some people might not notice. I've been watching Sean Price this year and I am NOT a fan... Yes, he has had a pretty good year and made a great catch at Samford, but it seems to me that he is a pre-madonna... If you watch him (from a defensive standpoint), you know EXACTLY if the route is going to him or not. He is LAZY and half-asses everything if he is not the intended target. This gets on my nerves!!!! I think the 4 (or 5) dropped passes vs Wofford just set me over the edge. I think this is (again) a discipline issue. If he doesn't want to give his all for App state, don't hit the sign on the way out, and get off of my team.. Sorry had to vent..

Longrifle28 · Unread post by **Longrifle28** » Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:32 pm

I actually agree. I think he has a lot of potential, but, I was able to make the Elon game, and watched him considerably. He has dropped quite a few passes, and he is also not a very good blocker. Takes plays off.

Apptiger · Unread post by **Apptiger** » Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:50 pm

contenderv07 wrote:this is my first post on this forum although I've been lurking on AGS for awhile. I played football for App, as well as have a long lineage of football in my family. The reason I say all of this is I watch other things during plays that some people might not notice. I've been watching Sean Price this year and I am NOT a fan... Yes, he has had a pretty good year and made a great catch at Samford, but it seems to me that he is a pre-madonna... If you watch him (from a defensive standpoint), you know EXACTLY if the route is going to him or not. He is LAZY and half-asses everything if he is not the intended target. This gets on my nerves!!!! I think the 4 (or 5) dropped passes vs Wofford just set me over the edge. I think this is (again) a discipline issue. If he doesn't want to give his all for App state, don't hit the sign on the way out, and get off of my team.. Sorry had to vent..

Hate lump all in the same boat but As an old fart I sometimes think this is a generational thing. Seems to be a trend. More interested in personal gain and a show than unselfish team achievement.

"I give my all" should mean just that.
Not "I give my all, when something is in it for me..."

App90 · Unread post by **App90** » Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:58 pm

He is LAZY and half-asses everything if he is not the intended target.

This guy was in JMU's back yard, VT's front yard....kind of makes you wonder...Believe me the NFL scouts see this...All you have to do is play the tape...Ill just leave it at that...

goapps93 · Unread post by **goapps93** » Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:10 pm

contenderv07 wrote:this is my first post on this forum although I've been lurking on AGS for awhile. I played football for App, as well as have a long lineage of football in my family. The reason I say all of this is I watch other things during plays that some people might not notice. I've been watching Sean Price this year and I am NOT a fan... Yes, he has had a pretty good year and made a great catch at Samford, but it seems to me that he is a pre-madonna... If you watch him (from a defensive standpoint), you know EXACTLY if the route is going to him or not. He is LAZY and half-asses everything if he is not the intended target. This gets on my nerves!!!! I think the 4 (or 5) dropped passes vs Wofford just set me over the edge. I think this is (again) a discipline issue. If he doesn't want to give his all for App state, don't hit the sign on the way out, and get off of my team.. Sorry had to vent..

Well, now that you've mentioned it, and I'm not trying to pile on, but I've noticed it too, from the first game he played in this season. I've noticed a lot of walking back to the LoS from down field and just general non-hustle. I also noticed, as I'm sure most did, that after the TD catch at Samford he drew a line across his chest. At first glance it looked as if he was pointing to his number but then I thought about giving him the benefit of the doubt since "Appalachian State" is also on his chest. But the more I think about it it was more like he was pointing out his number.

contenderv07 · Unread post by **contenderv07** » Sun Oct 21, 2012 6:44 pm

ok good, I thought I was being critical... I hope this isn't a generational thing, but Eric Breitenstein (sp?) is the same gen, and he seems to hustle his @ss off... He wasn't even 100% (or 75% for that matter) and I saw more hustle from him. It seems as though the recruiting is more for a "general" athlete, and not a team player, and that may go along with maturity. Maybe a little "come to Jesus" meeting with BQ (who is serving gatorade on the bench) in the pros, could talk to him, or even a Malette. I can't stand Elon, but he is a BEAST. I don't even care if they address it this season, but it needs to be before next season. he could be a great player but he's gonna HAVE to check his huge ego at the door (or have him run a crossing pattern in front of a huge, HUNGRY LB)

Snwbrdro · Unread post by **Snwbrdro** » Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:28 pm

I think we all need to relax and lay off of him a little bit. He is a freshman 6 games into the season and will have some of these issues, easily fixable. Has singlely kept us in all of our wins. We all know a great nfl wr that had some bad drops as well as a freshman, end zone Michigan Quick! I know the players are supposed to hussle back and get to the line of scrimmage but do we really expect them to give 100% on the actual play which might mean a 50-60 yard route and then run back to the line of scrimmage. They have to catch a break sometime without having to come out of the game. I know it sounds like I am making excuses, I'm not, they should hustle all the time but I think everyone is being a little critical. The blocking is another experience issue. How good do you think wr are taught to block in high school. He is also fbs talent playing in the fcs so I am sure there is some ego there, again, coaching, teaching, and age can fix this if our coaches will do it. I really attribute all of this to youth, still doing it next year, then different story. We may have a TO on our hands.

On the show boating after the Samford catch, didn't see it but who knows what it meant. At that point the game was over and I am sure he was excited. Again, freshman that just made a game winning catch. Maybe he was paying homeage to the greatest APP to ever wear 14! I didn't see any of these same complaints or comment about show boating after the Samford game. He is still a game changer and must be on the field and glad he is with us and not elon.

There is my two cents! Let the bashing begin!
THE PRICE IS RIGHT! And QUICK IS OPEN!!!!

goapps93 · Unread post by **goapps93** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:26 am

Snwbrdro wrote:I think we all need to relax and lay off of him a little bit. He is a freshman 6 games into the season and will have some of these issues, easily fixable. Has singlely kept us in all of our wins. We all know a great nfl wr that had some bad drops as well as a freshman, end zone Michigan Quick! I know the players are supposed to hussle back and get to the line of scrimmage but do we really expect them to give 100% on the actual play which might mean a 50-60 yard route and then run back to the line of scrimmage. They have to catch a break sometime without having to come out of the game. I know it sounds like I am making excuses, I'm not, they should hustle all the time but I think everyone is being a little critical. The blocking is another experience issue. How good do you think wr are taught to block in high school. He is also fbs talent playing in the fcs so I am sure there is some ego there, again, coaching, teaching, and age can fix this if our coaches will do it. I really attribute all of this to youth, still doing it next year, then different story. We may have a TO on our hands.

On the show boating after the Samford catch, didn't see it but who knows what it meant. At that point the game was over and I am sure he was excited. Again, freshman that just made a game winning catch. Maybe he was paying homeage to the greatest APP to ever wear 14! I didn't see any of these same complaints or comment about show boating after the Samford game. He is still a game changer and must be on the field and glad he is with us and not elon.

There is my two cents! Let the bashing begin!
THE PRICE IS RIGHT! And QUICK IS OPEN!!!!

I'm not going to bash but we are allowed to be critical on this board. I would like to think most of it is constructive criticism. I'm glad he's wearing Black and Gold as well, as compared to one of our competitors. My issue has not been with his getting back the line after 50-60 yard routes, it has been on the short plays and run plays. I hope that his bout with the drops lately will help him to settle down and concentrate better. I agree that he is still a work in progress and we must all realize that the players, of his perceived caliber, that we get were passed over by FBS programs for a reason. And yes, I should have posted about what I perceived as selfish showboating after I saw it in the Samford game. And I'm not sure I would lay the "great nfl wr" tag on Quick just yet. He was a great ASU receiver but still has a lot to prove in the NFL, heck, he still needs to crack the starting lineup. I'm not giving up on the kid(Price or Quick) but I want to see him get rid of these rough edges ASAP. And I also want to see players make big plays, toss the ball to the official and get ready for the next one or celebrate with team mates after a score. I'm oldschool I guess.

Snwbrdro · Unread post by **Snwbrdro** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:30 am

I meant to correct the statement about great nfl wr and didn't. i meant great wr in the nfl.

goapps93 · Unread post by **goapps93** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:47 am

Snwbrdro wrote:I meant to correct the statement about great nfl wr and didn't. i meant great wr in the nfl.

I kinda wondered about that. Should've given you the benefit of the doubt like I did Price on his chest pointing at Samford.

gaapp78 · Unread post by **gaapp78** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:59 am

I wouldnt be too critical of a freshman who has played only a few games. I could see if he was a junior or senior doing those things. And honestly I dont see the showboating or the lack of hustle. If I see anything, its that he seems to maybe gets frustrated or mad at himself when he doesnt make the block or drop the passes. He might need to pull the gloves off so he can stop dropping so many passes. I wonder if that had something to do with all the drops. Again he is a freshman, they tend not to have caught up to game speed that juniors and seniors do. I think he will be fine.

Appmom3186 · Unread post by **Appmom3186** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:03 am

I've talked to him many times and watched him talking to others. i have always been impressed by his respectful, humble nature....
On Saturday with all the dropped, missed passes I did wonder to myself if all the attention of late was having an affect.... Whether it is not knowing how to handle it or how to live up to it.... Or an inflated ego... Although I just don't think that is it.
He's young... He will improve... He's an awesome guy!!

Go APPs

Deano · Unread post by **Deano** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:31 am

I was frustrated too with the dropped passes in the Wofford game, but again Sean is only a Freshman and still learning. To be fair some of the passes that were thrown to him were bullets right as he turned for the ball. At this point in his career he still has better hands than Quick did. It took Quick a long time to develop his hands, heck he is still learning that. Secondly the dropped passes are usually a result of two things, lack of focus or maybe he is putting too much pressure on himself which I tend to believe is the latter for Sean, just like I believe JJ is putting too much pressure on himself to make a play which makes him second guess his throws and makes him pass when he should run and vice versa. The only knock I have on Sean is just to learn to block at the line of scrimmage a little better, but that again is probably new to him. The guys just need to settle down and regain a new focus and intensity and let the game come to them, play their assignment, run their route and don't worry about the hype or what any media says.

MountainMan · Unread post by **MountainMan** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:49 am

A pre-madonna? What the heck is that? Back in the day, football players actually went to class and learned something. Guess that does not always hold true.

See, it's easy to bash others. Even I can do it. And for what purpose? Just to make myself look like a smart-a$$ I suppose......

AppStateNews · Unread post by **AppStateNews** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:51 am

I can assure everyone that nobody is more upset about those drops than Price himself. You could clearly see he was frustrated with himself on every one and I know he will be working his butt off to get better.

From what I saw, the drops were because he was trying to turn up the field too quick before having the ball in his hands. This is something EVERY wr on EVERY level does at times -- luckily, it's an easy fix.

SpeedkingATL · Unread post by **SpeedkingATL** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:04 am

Unfortunately App has had a lot of "see me" athletes over the last decade and it is simply a coaching disipline issue. I "thought" I was a hot shot receiver in high school and after a few penalties for endzone celebrations I got tired of running the stadium steps at school and hitting the 2-man sled after practice. I learned to just drop the ball or hand it to the offical...not really that hard to instill in a cocky youngster....especially one on a scholarship.

AppStateNews · Unread post by **AppStateNews** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:14 am

I can also assure everyone that Coach Stepp will not take showboating and a "me first" attitude from his WR. If he truly thinks Price is doing this, Price will not be playing. In our interview we had with him on our podcast, he specifically mentions this and mentions that Price is still learning why he has to block 15 yards down field.. why he has to line up one yard outside the hash marks instead of on them, why he has to cut at 10 yards instead of 9, etc. Price is still learning the nuances of this offense and in my opinion, there isn't a better coach to teach him than Coach Stepp!

WataugaMan · Unread post by **WataugaMan** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:22 am

SpeedkingATL wrote: I "thought" I was a hot shot receiver in high school and after a few penalties for endzone celebrations I got tired of running the stadium steps at school and hitting the 2-man sled after practice.

How many times did you flip into the end zone?

asumike83 · Unread post by **asumike83** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:25 am

Price was passed over by the FBS schools for the same reason as Quick. He was a track guy who only played high school football for 2 years and came to Appalachian very, very raw.

I was able to speak with Coach Stepp and asked him about Sean specifically. Trust me, blocking and working hard without the football are aspects of his game that are being pounded into his head. This is a teenager playing only his fourth year of organized football at any level, he will only get better.

In my opinion, if you catch the game-winning touchdown over 2 defenders in the back of the end zone, you can celebrate a little. He didn't draw a flag or taunt his opponent. No harm, no foul as far as I'm concerned. In the postgame interview after Samford, he seemed very humble and gave his teammates all the credit for making that play possible. I'm not ready to label him a 'see me' player because he celebrated after making the biggest catch of his life.

SpeedkingATL · Unread post by **SpeedkingATL** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:34 am

WataugaMan wrote:
SpeedkingATL wrote: I "thought" I was a hot shot receiver in high school and after a few penalties for endzone celebrations I got tired of running the stadium steps at school and hitting the 2-man sled after practice.
How many times did you flip into the end zone?

Never did a flip but did throw a ball into the stands to the other teams student section after a pick 6, but my usual offense was just spiking the ball preferably at a DB's feet. This was the early 70's and Elmo Wright of the AFL Kansas City Chiefs was just getting the end zone dancing started.

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