A W is a W

[hotrod2001]

Clemson was losing at the Half, Notre Dame for all intensive purposes shouldn't have even been close to Temple regardless of their ranking (according to all of the pundits), and Stanford won by the skin of their teeth on a team using the same "Air Raid Offense" we had to deal with Saturday. An ugly win is still a win. Not to mention Ark State didn't necessarily take Georgia State to the woodshed by any means either.

[appstatealum]

I don't know who is calling plays, but after 8 games we still don't have an 8 yard pass play.
Let Caruso get some experience.

The only way Caruso gets time should be if we are winning by 20+ or if TL gets hurt. Now, if he and DanielDavid can push Lamb in the off-season, so be it...

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[bigdaddyg]

I don't know who is calling plays, but after 8 games we still don't have an 8 yard pass play.
Let Caruso get some experience.

The only way Caruso gets time should be if we are winning by 20+ or if TL gets hurt. Now, if he and DanielDavid can push Lamb in the off-season, so be it...

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I had pointed out (not sure which thread) some of our stats. It was interesting to me that, based on our yards per attempt (12th nationally) at 9.3 we lean toward the long ball more often than not when we throw. We are 9th in YPA rushing so logic dictates that we would, more often than not, be in shorter third down situations but we are 69th in third down conversions. I would love to see a breakdown of third down throws (yards attempted per throw) to get a feel for where balls go. I would just think that some slants, rub routes, etc would bring more success on third and less than 5 situations rather than 40 yard bombs. Is this more of a product of personnel? Do we not yet have that bigger over the middle possession type receiver that pick up the short gain and keep drives going? Hard to find too much to pick apart based on a 7-1 record. This is more of an observation and on my part probably a lack of understanding of game plan.

[ASUfan6971]

If TL gets hurt then we have backups with little experience!

[bigdaddyg]

I don't know who is calling plays, but after 8 games we still don't have an 8 yard pass play.
Let Caruso get some experience.

The only way Caruso gets time should be if we are winning by 20+ or if TL gets hurt. Now, if he and DanielDavid can push Lamb in the off-season, so be it...

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I had pointed out (not sure which thread) some of our stats. It was interesting to me that, based on our yards per attempt (12th nationally) at 9.3 we lean toward the long ball more often than not when we throw. We are 9th in YPA rushing so logic dictates that we would, more often than not, be in shorter third down situations but we are 69th in third down conversions. I would love to see a breakdown of third down throws (yards attempted per throw) to get a feel for where balls go. I would just think that some slants, rub routes, etc would bring more success on third and less than 5 situations rather than 40 yard bombs. Is this more of a product of personnel? Do we not yet have that bigger over the middle possession type receiver that pick up the short gain and keep drives going? Hard to find too much to pick apart based on a 7-1 record. This is more of an observation and on my part probably a lack of understanding of game plan.

Oh, and I agree, no way do we go with Caruso just to get some experience (unless it is in a blowout). There are not too many QB's in the country with a better record than TL over the past 13 games.

[appstatealum]

I don't know who is calling plays, but after 8 games we still don't have an 8 yard pass play.
Let Caruso get some experience.

The only way Caruso gets time should be if we are winning by 20+ or if TL gets hurt. Now, if he and DanielDavid can push Lamb in the off-season, so be it...

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I had pointed out (not sure which thread) some of our stats. It was interesting to me that, based on our yards per attempt (12th nationally) at 9.3 we lean toward the long ball more often than not when we throw. We are 9th in YPA rushing so logic dictates that we would, more often than not, be in shorter third down situations but we are 69th in third down conversions. I would love to see a breakdown of third down throws (yards attempted per throw) to get a feel for where balls go. I would just think that some slants, rub routes, etc would bring more success on third and less than 5 situations rather than 40 yard bombs. Is this more of a product of personnel? Do we not yet have that bigger over the middle possession type receiver that pick up the short gain and keep drives going? Hard to find too much to pick apart based on a 7-1 record. This is more of an observation and on my part probably a lack of understanding of game plan.

Yeah. Goes back to the question around why Meadors has not become a bigger price of the offense.

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[bigdaddyg]

Do any of the guys we brought in from GA Military College even play? Is that a dead pipeline?

[eggers76]

Dez Reed is hurt but has played and Tee Simms has also played but I think is injured too. I don't know what the story is on Zy Letmann.

[hapapp]

I thought someone suggest that Zy was going to redshirt.

[firemoose]

I thought someone suggest that Zy was going to redshirt.

Letman is redshirting, Simms is out for the year but was seeing some quality minutes before he was injured, and Dez Reed was hurt Saturday and is listed as out for Thursday (upper body). And McGuire, from the year before, is playing after coming back from the suspension at the beginning of the season.

[MountainMan24]

You completely missed my point. Im saying that our team is further along in our FBS growth and it is becoming clear that Lamb is going to be a piece that holds us back. Im not some "whiney poster"... im a die hard App Alum who bleeds black and gold. Ive only missed a handful of games in 15 years and if you can not see that Lamb was indecisive in tough games, then you do not know anything about the QB position.
Im not posting here to be in some petty back in forth with anyone, I want to talk App Football with others who follow the team as closely as I do.

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I agree with you on this. There were many times that he could've gotten the ball off for a hefty gain and he ran it. However, I feel like he is a great quarterback that just some rookie mistakes. If we give him some more time, I feel like he could improve and mature. If you remember last year, he wasn't the best of quarterbacks, but he has gotten a lot better. With more time, I believe he can still improve.

[EastHallApp]

Meadors was basically an occasional deep threat last year. He made some spectacular plays, but he was never a consistent threat. I think some were thinking he might make that leap to being a star this year, but so far his role is basically the same as it was. I don't know if that's due to blocking, route-running, or something else.

I certainly think he seems like the most athletically impressive receiver we have (at least on the active roster), so hopefully he keeps making some plays for us this year and then can break out next year when we'll need to replace all those seniors.

FWIW, he is actually leading the team in receiving yards. We just spread it around so much (and run first, of course), no one WR has big numbers.

[appbio91]

Meadors was basically an occasional deep threat last year. He made some spectacular plays, but he was never a consistent threat. I think some were thinking he might make that leap to being a star this year, but so far his role is basically the same as it was. I don't know if that's due to blocking, route-running, or something else.

I certainly think he seems like the most athletically impressive receiver we have (at least on the active roster), so hopefully he keeps making some plays for us this year and then can break out next year when we'll need to replace all those seniors.

FWIW, he is actually leading the team in receiving yards. We just spread it around so much (and run first, of course), no one WR has big numbers.

Never would have guessed he was leading. I guess like you said when he is targeted it is for a deep one.

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[JTApps1]

I think Meadors had some work to do at being more consistent in the blocking game early on, but the main thing holding him back now is 4 seniors. This is why the coaches struggled so much on whether or not to burn his red shirt last year. He will certainly be the #1 receiver heading into spring ball.

[BUTCH1991]

I think Meadors had some work to do at being more consistent in the blocking game early on, but the main thing holding him back now is 4 seniors. This is why the coaches struggled so much on whether or not to burn his red shirt last year. He will certainly be the #1 receiver heading into spring ball.

I just hope he isn't getting overly frustrated and will be around for spring ball.

[SpeedkingATL]

I think Meadors had some work to do at being more consistent in the blocking game early on, but the main thing holding him back now is 4 seniors. This is why the coaches struggled so much on whether or not to burn his red shirt last year. He will certainly be the #1 receiver heading into spring ball.

I just hope he isn't getting overly frustrated and will be around for spring ball.

Let's hope he's not frustrated playing on a 7-1 App team that's 4-0 in the Belt, bowl bound and being a contributor as a sophomore.

[TheMackAttack]

If TL gets hurt then we have backups with little experience!

That's the story everywhere though. College football players want to be on the field. If you have a sophomore quarterback, chances are you won't have an older guy backing him up because he will want some playing time and will look to transfer.

Everyone's favorite player in the backup QB.

[APPRIDE]

Yeah. Goes back to the question around why Meadors has not become a bigger price of the offense.


I see what you did there!

I feel like except the few long attempts to Shaedon the only other passes he has seen are hurried off the mark 3rd check down low % passes right against the sideline...haven't seen many mid length designed plays/passes to him. Would really like to see more his way

[appstatealum]

Yeah. Goes back to the question around why Meadors has not become a bigger price of the offense.


I see what you did there!

I feel like except the few long attempts to Shaedon the only other passes he has seen are hurried off the mark 3rd check down low % passes right against the sideline...haven't seen many mid length designed plays/passes to him. Would really like to see more his way

Haha, that was an auto correct. It just seems that Meadors is such a mismatch vs alot of guys on the outside. Id love to see him develop chemistry with Lamb

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[boonetown1]

I was thinking the same thing about Meadors. He has posted tweets asking for patience on Twitter. He wouldn't be bright to leave though.