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Re: NC State scared

Unread post by AppSt94 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:55 am

biggie wrote:
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I said it on page 3, and I'll say it again. I just don't care, win the damn conference. 9 pages of insecurity. The last conference chip was in 2019. We play At Marshall, At chicken shits, and At Stink.

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It was 7.5 at most sites when they first came out. I got a couple bets in at that line.
I don’t typically wager on App but I took the over at 7.5. I also took the under 10.5 for both Michigan and Texas.

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Re: NC State scared

Unread post by appdaze » Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:10 am

biggie wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:52 am
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I said it on page 3, and I'll say it again. I just don't care, win the damn conference. 9 pages of insecurity. The last conference chip was in 2019. We play At Marshall, At chicken shits, and At Stink.

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It was 7.5 at most sites when they first came out. I got a couple bets in at that line.
You dog. You got a steal, then. With Joey back, 8 wins are the floor in my eyes.

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Re: NC State scared

Unread post by Saint3333 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:33 am

AppSt94 wrote:
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They aren’t afraid. They aren’t scared. They made a business decision that was in their best interest. I think some of you enjoy shaming others to make yourselves feel better.
Webster's disagrees.

I made a business decision not to hang glide off the side of a mountain on vacation earlier this year due to the risk/reward of the adventure. By definition I was "afraid" of a potential outcome.

Perhaps you're painting the afraid comments in a light to make yourself feel better. Or maybe, hear me out, we're both reading too much into a simple post on a message board.

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Re: NC State scared

Unread post by kornegaylw » Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:38 am

appdaze wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:33 am
I said it on page 3, and I'll say it again. I just don't care, win the damn conference. 9 pages of insecurity. The last conference chip was in 2019. We play At Marshall, At chicken shits, and At Stink.

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Will you please allow me to talk AppSt FB with the only ppl that care? LOL!

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Re: NC State scared

Unread post by appdaze » Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:49 am

kornegaylw wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:38 am
appdaze wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:33 am
I said it on page 3, and I'll say it again. I just don't care, win the damn conference. 9 pages of insecurity. The last conference chip was in 2019. We play At Marshall, At chicken shits, and At Stink.

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Will you please allow me to talk AppSt FB with the only ppl that care? LOL!
I don't really think this is an App football discussion at this point as much as it is a cry session with an NC state focus. There are plenty of topics to talk App football with teams that are going to play us this year. Win the conference.

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Re: NC State scared

Unread post by biggie » Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:01 am

appdaze wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:10 am
biggie wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:52 am
appdaze wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:33 am
I said it on page 3, and I'll say it again. I just don't care, win the damn conference. 9 pages of insecurity. The last conference chip was in 2019. We play At Marshall, At chicken shits, and At Stink.

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Appalachian State Will Win: 9

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It was 7.5 at most sites when they first came out. I got a couple bets in at that line.
You dog. You got a steal, then. With Joey back, 8 wins are the floor in my eyes.
When I saw that I couldn't resist, was in Vegas last Aug and had won on that over/under on App as well. So I'll keep trying I guess. I've lost interest in MLB already so waiting on CFB for anymore more bets.

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Re: NC State scared

Unread post by 704App » Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:21 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:53 am
They aren’t afraid. They aren’t scared. They made a business decision that was in their best interest. I think some of you enjoy shaming others to make yourselves feel better.
How is cancelling in favor for a historically subpar team and statistically a much easier win not the epitome of cancelling?

I can see it if they got another home game out of it or played a blue blood. But, they are playing UVA as the replacement.. that's going to HURT their CFP chances vs playing App.

They are scared of losing to an in state G5 - nothing more, nothing less.

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Re: NC State scared

Unread post by AppSt94 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:29 am

704App wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:21 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:53 am
They aren’t afraid. They aren’t scared. They made a business decision that was in their best interest. I think some of you enjoy shaming others to make yourselves feel better.
How is cancelling in favor for a historically subpar team and statistically a much easier win not the epitome of cancelling?

I can see it if they got another home game out of it or played a blue blood. But, they are playing UVA as the replacement.. that's going to HURT their CFP chances vs playing App.

They are scared of losing to an in state G5 - nothing more, nothing less.
If it makes you feel better to think that, then Ok. It doesn’t make it true. Have a good day.

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Re: NC State scared

Unread post by 704App » Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:38 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:29 am
704App wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:21 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:53 am
They aren’t afraid. They aren’t scared. They made a business decision that was in their best interest. I think some of you enjoy shaming others to make yourselves feel better.
How is cancelling in favor for a historically subpar team and statistically a much easier win not the epitome of cancelling?

I can see it if they got another home game out of it or played a blue blood. But, they are playing UVA as the replacement.. that's going to HURT their CFP chances vs playing App.

They are scared of losing to an in state G5 - nothing more, nothing less.
If it makes you feel better to think that, then Ok. It doesn’t make it true. Have a good day.
I asked a question. You responded in a snarky matter.

Can you answer the question or just snark, per usual? It's not a matter of sleeping at night. I'm generally curious how anybody can see it any other way...

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Re: NC State scared

Unread post by AppinVA » Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:54 am

I’ve noticed that one’s opinion on how scared NC State may be depends on their having a “back-up” team.

If App is your only team, you are more likely to see NC State ad being scared. If you have an ACC team you have more than a casual interest in, then this is seen anywhere from, “Not a big deal. They’re protecting themselves,” to “Here we go again. We should know our place.”
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Re: NC State scared

Unread post by AppSt94 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:57 am

704App wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:38 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:29 am
704App wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:21 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:53 am
They aren’t afraid. They aren’t scared. They made a business decision that was in their best interest. I think some of you enjoy shaming others to make yourselves feel better.
How is cancelling in favor for a historically subpar team and statistically a much easier win not the epitome of cancelling?

I can see it if they got another home game out of it or played a blue blood. But, they are playing UVA as the replacement.. that's going to HURT their CFP chances vs playing App.

They are scared of losing to an in state G5 - nothing more, nothing less.
If it makes you feel better to think that, then Ok. It doesn’t make it true. Have a good day.
I asked a question. You responded in a snarky matter.

Can you answer the question or just snark, per usual? It's not a matter of sleeping at night. I'm generally curious how anybody can see it any other way...
I answered the way I did because I answered your question. You didn’t like the answer so you came back trying to convince me to think of it the same way that you do. The truth is you aren’t interested in any other viewpoint than yours which is why I said what I said.

Here’s the thing. As much as you and others want to look at UVA as an inferior opponent than App, they aren’t. If you look at the current Power Index for 2024, App is rated 67 and UVA is ranked 72. Ahead but close enough to call it even. The difference is that App at 67 is the 2nd highest rated team in the SBC. UVA at 72 is the lowest rated. App would be the 15th highest rated team in the ACC team. The SOS computes not only your opponents, but your opponent’s opponents. UVA plays better competition, regardless of the outcomes. Could App beat UVa head-to-head? Sure. Would they? Whose to say.

In summation, they aren’t scared. They are looking out for their best interest.

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Re: NC State scared

Unread post by bcoach » Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:05 am

704App wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:21 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:53 am
They aren’t afraid. They aren’t scared. They made a business decision that was in their best interest. I think some of you enjoy shaming others to make yourselves feel better.
How is cancelling in favor for a historically subpar team and statistically a much easier win not the epitome of cancelling?

I can see it if they got another home game out of it or played a blue blood. But, they are playing UVA as the replacement.. that's going to HURT their CFP chances vs playing App.

They are scared of losing to an in state G5 - nothing more, nothing less.
I have to disagree. I don't think it hurts them at all. You have to look at who we each play. We play a Sunbelt and they play an ACC. We are a G5 and that just does not carry any weight with those making the decisions. We are just not that far away from the P whatever it turns out to be not playing ANY G5. I know that this is a message board, and we deal in what ifs but what we really need to worry about is winning the conference. P ? want to play other P? They are not afraid of us they just don’t want to trek up the mountain to play in front of 30K. I never thought they would come. In my humble opinion we are making State much more important than they really are.

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Re: NC State scared

Unread post by 704App » Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:10 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:57 am
704App wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:38 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:29 am
704App wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:21 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:53 am
They aren’t afraid. They aren’t scared. They made a business decision that was in their best interest. I think some of you enjoy shaming others to make yourselves feel better.
How is cancelling in favor for a historically subpar team and statistically a much easier win not the epitome of cancelling?

I can see it if they got another home game out of it or played a blue blood. But, they are playing UVA as the replacement.. that's going to HURT their CFP chances vs playing App.

They are scared of losing to an in state G5 - nothing more, nothing less.
If it makes you feel better to think that, then Ok. It doesn’t make it true. Have a good day.
I asked a question. You responded in a snarky matter.

Can you answer the question or just snark, per usual? It's not a matter of sleeping at night. I'm generally curious how anybody can see it any other way...
I answered the way I did because I answered your question. You didn’t like the answer so you came back trying to convince me to think of it the same way that you do. The truth is you aren’t interested in any other viewpoint than yours which is why I said what I said.

Here’s the thing. As much as you and others want to look at UVA as an inferior opponent than App, they aren’t. If you look at the current Power Index for 2024, App is rated 67 and UVA is ranked 72. Ahead but close enough to call it even. The difference is that App at 67 is the 2nd highest rated team in the SBC. UVA at 72 is the lowest rated. App would be the 15th highest rated team in the ACC team. The SOS computes not only your opponents, but your opponent’s opponents. UVA plays better competition, regardless of the outcomes. Could App beat UVa head-to-head? Sure. Would they? Whose to say.

In summation, they aren’t scared. They are looking out for their best interest.
I could get on board with that reasoning if this game was scheduled 8 years ago.

That has been the formula for CFP since it existed. State signed the contract in 2022, when the same formula was in place. Why sign the contract and agree to the game if that's always been the formula?

It's no secret State started backing out the moment the clocks hit 0 at A&M. If we didn't beat A&M, the state game is still happening.
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Re: NC State scared

Unread post by 704App » Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:10 am

bcoach wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:05 am
704App wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:21 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:53 am
They aren’t afraid. They aren’t scared. They made a business decision that was in their best interest. I think some of you enjoy shaming others to make yourselves feel better.
How is cancelling in favor for a historically subpar team and statistically a much easier win not the epitome of cancelling?

I can see it if they got another home game out of it or played a blue blood. But, they are playing UVA as the replacement.. that's going to HURT their CFP chances vs playing App.

They are scared of losing to an in state G5 - nothing more, nothing less.
I have to disagree. I don't think it hurts them at all. You have to look at who we each play. We play a Sunbelt and they play an ACC. We are a G5 and that just does not carry any weight with those making the decisions. We are just not that far away from the P whatever it turns out to be not playing ANY G5. I know that this is a message board, and we deal in what ifs but what we really need to worry about is winning the conference. P ? want to play other P? They are not afraid of us they just don’t want to trek up the mountain to play in front of 30K. I never thought they would come. In my humble opinion we are making State much more important than they really are.
Then why sign the contract to begin with and try to back out before the ink dried?

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Re: NC State scared

Unread post by bcoach » Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:16 am

704App wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:10 am
bcoach wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:05 am
704App wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:21 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:53 am
They aren’t afraid. They aren’t scared. They made a business decision that was in their best interest. I think some of you enjoy shaming others to make yourselves feel better.
How is cancelling in favor for a historically subpar team and statistically a much easier win not the epitome of cancelling?

I can see it if they got another home game out of it or played a blue blood. But, they are playing UVA as the replacement.. that's going to HURT their CFP chances vs playing App.

They are scared of losing to an in state G5 - nothing more, nothing less.
I have to disagree. I don't think it hurts them at all. You have to look at who we each play. We play a Sunbelt and they play an ACC. We are a G5 and that just does not carry any weight with those making the decisions. We are just not that far away from the P whatever it turns out to be not playing ANY G5. I know that this is a message board, and we deal in what ifs but what we really need to worry about is winning the conference. P ? want to play other P? They are not afraid of us they just don’t want to trek up the mountain to play in front of 30K. I never thought they would come. In my humble opinion we are making State much more important than they really are.
Then why sign the contract to begin with and try to back out before the ink dried?
I really have no idea why, I really don't. I never, ever believed they were going to come. I had a couple friends who were planning to come when it was announced and I told them not to bother making hotel reservations.

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Re: NC State scared

Unread post by bcoach » Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:19 am

704App wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:10 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:57 am
704App wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:38 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:29 am
704App wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:21 am


How is cancelling in favor for a historically subpar team and statistically a much easier win not the epitome of cancelling?

I can see it if they got another home game out of it or played a blue blood. But, they are playing UVA as the replacement.. that's going to HURT their CFP chances vs playing App.

They are scared of losing to an in state G5 - nothing more, nothing less.
If it makes you feel better to think that, then Ok. It doesn’t make it true. Have a good day.
I asked a question. You responded in a snarky matter.

Can you answer the question or just snark, per usual? It's not a matter of sleeping at night. I'm generally curious how anybody can see it any other way...
I answered the way I did because I answered your question. You didn’t like the answer so you came back trying to convince me to think of it the same way that you do. The truth is you aren’t interested in any other viewpoint than yours which is why I said what I said.

Here’s the thing. As much as you and others want to look at UVA as an inferior opponent than App, they aren’t. If you look at the current Power Index for 2024, App is rated 67 and UVA is ranked 72. Ahead but close enough to call it even. The difference is that App at 67 is the 2nd highest rated team in the SBC. UVA at 72 is the lowest rated. App would be the 15th highest rated team in the ACC team. The SOS computes not only your opponents, but your opponent’s opponents. UVA plays better competition, regardless of the outcomes. Could App beat UVa head-to-head? Sure. Would they? Whose to say.

In summation, they aren’t scared. They are looking out for their best interest.
I could get on board with that reasoning if this game was scheduled 8 years ago.

That has been the formula for CFP since it existed. State signed the contract in 2022, when the same formula was in place. Why sign the contract and agree to the game if that's always been the formula?

It's no secret State started backing out the moment the clocks hit 0 at A&M. If we didn't beat A&M, the state game is still happening.
oops I didn't see this before my last comment. I truly believe that had nothing to do with it. I don't believe they were ever going to come.

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Re: NC State scared

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Re: NC State scared

Unread post by Saint3333 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:36 am

You can’t control the perception that NC State is scared.

It’s ok.

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Re: NC State scared

Unread post by 704App » Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:54 am

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Nobody is dwelling on it. But, I'm going to call a spade a spade.

Just like if we were to randomly cancel our series with UNCC if they magically become good real quick -- I'd call us out for being scared too.

There really is no other explanation though. I can see the argument if the contract was old, but it's not. It was signed in the CFP era with the same stipulations that are currently in place.

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Re: NC State scared

Unread post by AppSt94 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:00 pm

704App wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:54 am
AppSt94 wrote:
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Nobody is dwelling on it. But, I'm going to call a spade a spade.

Just like if we were to randomly cancel our series with UNCC if they magically become good real quick -- I'd call us out for being scared too.

There really is no other explanation though. I can see the argument if the contract was old, but it's not. It was signed in the CFP era with the same stipulations that are currently in place.
Your entire argument is conjecture and based on what you want to believe. Again. Believe what you want to believe. Have a fantastic day.

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