Salary of Coaches

[bigdaddyg]

If we can get to the AAC then I would imagine we would be able to pay 1M more a year and that would keep coaches around a little longer. It is all about the money.

For those talking about the players they are already paid at P5 programs. It just is not legal.

Go look at how much money the SEC brings in and then spends. Many P5 schools are just breaking even or making only a couple million after coaching salaries, facilities, etc.

I would think that we probably begin to hit 35,000 per home conference game (Saturday games) when we exchange ECU, Memphis, UCF for Texas State, UL Monroe and South Alabama. 10K more fans at $40 per for 4 games is a quick $1.6M added revenue not to mention the beer sales will skyrocket.

[EastHallApp]

Go look at how much money the SEC brings in and then spends. Many P5 schools are just breaking even or making only a couple million after coaching salaries, facilities, etc.

Well yeah, that's kind of the point. Because they get all the free labor from players, they are able to spend the money on extravagant coaching salaries and facilities that are nicer than NBA and NFL teams have.

[AppStFan1]

If we can get to the AAC then I would imagine we would be able to pay 1M more a year and that would keep coaches around a little longer. It is all about the money.

For those talking about the players they are already paid at P5 programs. It just is not legal.

Go look at how much money the SEC brings in and then spends. Many P5 schools are just breaking even or making only a couple million after coaching salaries, facilities, etc.

I would think that we probably begin to hit 35,000 per home conference game (Saturday games) when we exchange ECU, Memphis, UCF for Texas State, UL Monroe and South Alabama. 10K more fans at $40 per for 4 games is a quick $1.6M added revenue not to mention the beer sales will skyrocket.

That is what I'm thinking. We really need ECU, Memphis, Wake Forest, Charlotte, MTSU, Marshall, etc types coming to town. I wish we would get rid of the FCS games as well. There is no reason for us to pay Morgan State to show up. We need the money games so no reason for us to be a money game for someone else.

[BeauFoster]

If we can get to the AAC then I would imagine we would be able to pay 1M more a year and that would keep coaches around a little longer. It is all about the money.

For those talking about the players they are already paid at P5 programs. It just is not legal.

Go look at how much money the SEC brings in and then spends. Many P5 schools are just breaking even or making only a couple million after coaching salaries, facilities, etc.

I would think that we probably begin to hit 35,000 per home conference game (Saturday games) when we exchange ECU, Memphis, UCF for Texas State, UL Monroe and South Alabama. 10K more fans at $40 per for 4 games is a quick $1.6M added revenue not to mention the beer sales will skyrocket.

I think we could hit 35k with that conference home slate, but I have no idea where they would sit or park. I'd have to say that our max capacity, even with the new building in place, would be 33k.

[AppStFan1]

Go look at how much money the SEC brings in and then spends. Many P5 schools are just breaking even or making only a couple million after coaching salaries, facilities, etc.

Well yeah, that's kind of the point. Because they get all the free labor from players, they are able to spend the money on extravagant coaching salaries and facilities that are nicer than NBA and NFL teams have.

Have you played college ball? Besides the education they are given money from their coaches, jobs and cars for mom and dad, and many of the kids send money back home to help their parents. They eat free and pretty much have agents paying them as well. I don't feel bad for any P5 player.

The players who provide free labor with just an education are the G5, FCS, and below but they don't make enough to truly be paid. App will never have a shot at a P5 player and the gap will get wider if you open the paying of all players.

One unintended consequence with the transfer portal and this is that P5 schools will actively recruit an Evans or Peoples and lure them away for a year or two. I fully expect them to start recruiting the G5 level and the G5 become a training ground for P5 players later on. Imagine Clemson bring in our two best players to fill out a class instead of taking a shot on a 2-star sleeper. We get that guy and then when he becomes a stud they may go after him.

If I'm the NCAA I let kids make money off their likeness. Hold the money until they get their degree, including an economics course. Then make the kids sign a waiver that they won't sue after they graduate. That way they can't blame the school and the school made sure they had the knowledge to spend the money the right way. If you just give 5,000 to a 18 year old kid he will blow it. It will be gone before the end of the week they get it.

[WASU 93]

It's is sickening the amount of money they pay coaches.... This is why athletics will fail. The ncaa doesn't want to pay athletes but will allow coaches to make MILLIONS and then even do advertising and make more. NCAA should cap coaches salaries and restrict them from doing advertising for pay unless they want to change the rules for athletes.

What is sickening about it? Basic Supply and Demand.

Plus a Head Coach is a leader of men, the face of the program, and works many, many, many, many hours.

Head Coaches:
Recruit
Initiate the Vision of the Program
Deal with Boosters, Alumni and School Officials
Deal with the Media promoting the program and themselves including Press Conferences, Interviews both at the field and on Radio/TV. etc, take part in a weekly coaches show, take part in Conference Pre-Season Media Events and Weekly Conference Calls
They are responsible for Hiring and Firing their Staff
They have to fill roster spots due to injuries, transfers and academic situations (not to mention the occasional legal situation)
They have every move scrutinized weekly (including on field, off field and how they answered a question)
They are constantly under the gun, without true job security in most cases
They are also charged with running a clean program that is academically successful and socially acceptable, even though there are many situations outside their control.
They endure staff turnover, AD turnover, etc.
They also have to climb the ladder, with the initial low salaries and instability of being a Graduate Assistant, Assistant Coach, etc.

It takes sacrifice, drive, dedication, study, leadership skills, personal skills, networking skills, etc. to become a College Head Coach.

Coach Drink is an exception to become an FBS Head Coach at the age of 35.
Look at what he had to do to get there:
2005 – Alma (Ark.) HS – Assistant Coach
2006-09 – Springdale (Ark.) HS – Offensive Coordinator
2010-11 – Auburn – Quality Control Assistant
2012 – Arkansas State – Running Backs
2013 – Arkansas State – Co-Offensive Coordinator/Running Backs
2014 – Boise State – Tight Ends
2015 – Boise State – Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks
2016-18 – NC State – Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks
As an exception, that's 4 years as a low-paid High School Assistant Coach, 2 years as a low-paid QC Assistant, at least three years as a G5 Assistant Coach, 1 Year as a G5 Coordinator and 3 years as a P5 Coordinator. Most likely that's 9 years before he made decent money as the OC at Boise State. He's also on his 6th move since Springdale High School.
Yet, his Salary should be capped and he should be restricted from signing an Advertising Deal in the Free Market, because an 18 Year-Old isn't getting paid to play with receiving a Free Education, Free Room and Board, Training, Free Tutoring and getting to play the game they love to play???????

Nick Saban and Dabo Sweeney probably provide great ROI for their Universities even at their high salaries. The Brand Exposure that their teams bring to their Universities is almost immeasurable. They are the best at what they do, and in a Free Market, the best are allowed to earn what they are worth.

[Mjohn1988]

Dude nobody can justify the type of money some coaches are making. I’m a capitalist and I get the whole free market thing but most of these guys are working for tax payer supported institutions so that takes a bit of the whole free market thing off the table. Our society screams about health care but we don’t want to pay for health care. We scream about how valuable an education is and how much we love our kids. My wife has been teaching for 34 years and she’s really good at it, she’s making $51,000/year. We put our kids on busses with drivers who make $13/hr. I love college football but as a society we have some really screwed up priorities.

[Mjohn1988]

One more, students are getting killed in mass at our schools and universities but we can’t afford to put police officers at them to harden the target.

[EastHallApp]

Not going to quote the whole post, but it’s pretty ironic to preach “free market” for coaches in one breath and then argue that the same free market shouldn’t apply to the players.

You can love the “amateurism” system or hate it, but you can’t say it’s a free market.

[WASU 93]

Not going to quote the whole post, but it’s pretty ironic to preach “free market” for coaches in one breath and then argue that the same free market shouldn’t apply to the players.

You can love the “amateurism” system or hate it, but you can’t say it’s a free market.

I have no problem with the players getting paid a stipend or earning money off their jersey sales, video games, or even Zion Williamson having a Nike contract in college.

I do have a problem with a binary statement that says that coaches shouldn’t get paid fair market value or should be restricted from outside revenue, until the players are paid.

[Cro-Magnon App]

The top 83 are overpayed. The market has to come back. The coaches make more than the chancellors. It's football. Ain't saving lives.

[AppRolls]

Charlie Strong has a hell of an agent and/or the AD at South Florida is smoking crack.

[EastHallApp]

Charlie Strong has a hell of an agent and/or the AD at South Florida is smoking crack.

I thought he seemed like a home run hire for them at the time. Just hasn’t worked out, to say the least.