Aguilar Mention in ESPN Article

[AppWyo]

Grayson isn’t close to the qb he was prior to the knee injuries. And thats what happens when you ask a qb to run that much. The article mentions that Joey is the only…. only returning qb at the FBS level that threw for 3700 yds and 33 tds. If Joey has close to the same kind of production, he may well be our first drafted qb.

This has been my thought on McCall. He is coming off injuries and going to be in a new system with a whole new team so it will be interesting to see how he looks. He went from being POY in the SBC to not even making the All-Sun Belt team in 2023 so he has something to prove.

As for the first QB you have to remember that Armanti was drafted and played QB, even though they drafted him for another position. I still think they should have given him a shot to play QB.

Armanti's problem was he did not go to Notre Dame and look like a prototypical quarterback.

[Bigdaddyg1]

Grayson isn’t close to the qb he was prior to the knee injuries. And thats what happens when you ask a qb to run that much. The article mentions that Joey is the only…. only returning qb at the FBS level that threw for 3700 yds and 33 tds. If Joey has close to the same kind of production, he may well be our first drafted qb.

This has been my thought on McCall. He is coming off injuries and going to be in a new system with a whole new team so it will be interesting to see how he looks. He went from being POY in the SBC to not even making the All-Sun Belt team in 2023 so he has something to prove.

As for the first QB you have to remember that Armanti was drafted and played QB, even though they drafted him for another position. I still think they should have given him a shot to play QB.

Armanti's problem was he did not go to Notre Dame and look like a prototypical quarterback.

That entire situation with Armanti was baffling to me. As a Panthers fan I was excited they took him but confused by them moving up to get him- dumb decision as he probably realistically would have lasted at least until the 4th round. Then the ultimate stupid decision to move him to receiver. I am one who thinks he could have played wildcat QB or maybe even started there but the regime was awful.

[wb247]

That entire situation with Armanti was baffling to me. As a Panthers fan I was excited they took him but confused by them moving up to get him- dumb decision as he probably realistically would have lasted at least until the 4th round. Then the ultimate stupid decision to move him to receiver. I am one who thinks he could have played wildcat QB or maybe even started there but the regime was awful.

At the very least, he should have had an opportunity before Brian St. Pierre got pulled off of his couch.

[Bigdaddyg1]

That entire situation with Armanti was baffling to me. As a Panthers fan I was excited they took him but confused by them moving up to get him- dumb decision as he probably realistically would have lasted at least until the 4th round. Then the ultimate stupid decision to move him to receiver. I am one who thinks he could have played wildcat QB or maybe even started there but the regime was awful.

At the very least, he should have had an opportunity before Brian St. Pierre got pulled off of his couch.

I’ll always remember Fox calling Armanti the camp star (or something to that effect). He made it sound like AE was going to do all kinds of stuff and he barely played.

[AppStFan1]

Grayson isn’t close to the qb he was prior to the knee injuries. And thats what happens when you ask a qb to run that much. The article mentions that Joey is the only…. only returning qb at the FBS level that threw for 3700 yds and 33 tds. If Joey has close to the same kind of production, he may well be our first drafted qb.

This has been my thought on McCall. He is coming off injuries and going to be in a new system with a whole new team so it will be interesting to see how he looks. He went from being POY in the SBC to not even making the All-Sun Belt team in 2023 so he has something to prove.

As for the first QB you have to remember that Armanti was drafted and played QB, even though they drafted him for another position. I still think they should have given him a shot to play QB.

Armanti's problem was he did not go to Notre Dame and look like a prototypical quarterback.

I think that was part of it but the other part is the weight. I always compared Armanti to Russell Wilson. Both are 5'11 but Wilson was 20 pounds heavier and came from Big/ACC instead of FCS like Armanti. I still believe that if Armanti had weighed 200+ he would have been drafted as a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round.

Someone had told me when Armanti was with the Panthers that the announcers once made the comment that the best arm at Panthers training camp was playing WR. He definitely had the arm talent to play QB.

[AppStFan1]

Grayson isn’t close to the qb he was prior to the knee injuries. And thats what happens when you ask a qb to run that much. The article mentions that Joey is the only…. only returning qb at the FBS level that threw for 3700 yds and 33 tds. If Joey has close to the same kind of production, he may well be our first drafted qb.

This has been my thought on McCall. He is coming off injuries and going to be in a new system with a whole new team so it will be interesting to see how he looks. He went from being POY in the SBC to not even making the All-Sun Belt team in 2023 so he has something to prove.

As for the first QB you have to remember that Armanti was drafted and played QB, even though they drafted him for another position. I still think they should have given him a shot to play QB.

Armanti's problem was he did not go to Notre Dame and look like a prototypical quarterback.

That entire situation with Armanti was baffling to me. As a Panthers fan I was excited they took him but confused by them moving up to get him- dumb decision as he probably realistically would have lasted at least until the 4th round. Then the ultimate stupid decision to move him to receiver. I am one who thinks he could have played wildcat QB or maybe even started there but the regime was awful.

The Panthers did not know what they were doing and had an awful plan for him. They had some inept leadership at GM and HC for a while and it showed with how poorly they managed Edwards and Dexter Jackson when they signed him.

[Bootsy]

Zappe played for a really bad Pats squad but he’s had some decent time under center over the past few years. And he’s still in the League.

And regarding Armanti…it’s ironic how he didn’t “look like a QB” and the Panthers moved him to WR. A few years pass, Mahomes comes along and shatters the mold. I’m not sure AE would look so out of place under center in this day and age.

[AtlAppMan]

Mahomes is 6’2” 225 lbs a lot more size for NFL

[AppStFan1]

Mahomes is 6’2” 225 lbs a lot more size for NFL

I was about to say the same thing. 6'2 225 pounds compared to 5'10 7/8 184 pounds as a senior (187 pounds at NFL Combine).

[teller]

Whether we like him or not, Grayson was very good (when healthy) of managing the run offense and when to keep it or run himself. When they also incorporated a short pass option, he was very good. When not healthy, it changed the offense quite a bit.

This is an area that our QB 1 could possibly improve.. Realize our offense is somewhat different in that we may not offer 3 options for QB...but with only two options, I believe this is an area that Joey Dimes could potentially improve if asked to run more. I have no clue what coaches may be telling our QB 1 on plays that may look like a read option. They may have told him there is only one option..hand off, etc...that is why I say potentially.

From a passing perspective, I would take Joey all day long.

Joey improved as 2023 went on and if he can do it during the season he can do it in the off season...Especially since he's had now 2 full offseasons with Ponce. I have high hopes for Joey. I'm gonna say it here first...if he has a good season and we go on a run he will be a dark horse Heisman candidate.

Regarding McCall I believe he is the 3rd best QB (Other than DeShawn Watson & Josh Dobbs) we've faced since joining FCS. He makes the right decisions at the right times and manages game and teammates well. He's not the best passer or runner or anything but his total package is something to marvel. Its a shame that Drink didn't want him on the mountain. If NCSU can scheme an offense around what he is good at then they will succeed this year.

Hate to say it and draw attention to it now, but I’ve had thoughts very similar to the heisman comment you mentioned. Would be very cool and unexpected (for a G5 player that is). Flip side, more than any single accolade, I just want the team to win, hopefully run the table and be, without a doubt, the G5 to make CFP! 🟡
#rollneers let’s f**king go!

[AppStFan1]

Whether we like him or not, Grayson was very good (when healthy) of managing the run offense and when to keep it or run himself. When they also incorporated a short pass option, he was very good. When not healthy, it changed the offense quite a bit.

This is an area that our QB 1 could possibly improve.. Realize our offense is somewhat different in that we may not offer 3 options for QB...but with only two options, I believe this is an area that Joey Dimes could potentially improve if asked to run more. I have no clue what coaches may be telling our QB 1 on plays that may look like a read option. They may have told him there is only one option..hand off, etc...that is why I say potentially.

From a passing perspective, I would take Joey all day long.

Joey improved as 2023 went on and if he can do it during the season he can do it in the off season...Especially since he's had now 2 full offseasons with Ponce. I have high hopes for Joey. I'm gonna say it here first...if he has a good season and we go on a run he will be a dark horse Heisman candidate.

Regarding McCall I believe he is the 3rd best QB (Other than DeShawn Watson & Josh Dobbs) we've faced since joining FCS. He makes the right decisions at the right times and manages game and teammates well. He's not the best passer or runner or anything but his total package is something to marvel. Its a shame that Drink didn't want him on the mountain. If NCSU can scheme an offense around what he is good at then they will succeed this year.

Hate to say it and draw attention to it now, but I’ve had thoughts very similar to the heisman comment you mentioned. Would be very cool and unexpected (for a G5 player that is). Flip side, more than any single accolade, I just want the team to win, hopefully run the table and be, without a doubt, the G5 to make CFP! 🟡
#rollneers let’s f**king go!

Agreed here. I think Joey would trade any individual honor to lead the team to something historic and epic. Just win and the accolades will come.

[ericsaid]

Whether we like him or not, Grayson was very good (when healthy) of managing the run offense and when to keep it or run himself. When they also incorporated a short pass option, he was very good. When not healthy, it changed the offense quite a bit.

This is an area that our QB 1 could possibly improve.. Realize our offense is somewhat different in that we may not offer 3 options for QB...but with only two options, I believe this is an area that Joey Dimes could potentially improve if asked to run more. I have no clue what coaches may be telling our QB 1 on plays that may look like a read option. They may have told him there is only one option..hand off, etc...that is why I say potentially.

From a passing perspective, I would take Joey all day long.

Joey improved as 2023 went on and if he can do it during the season he can do it in the off season...Especially since he's had now 2 full offseasons with Ponce. I have high hopes for Joey. I'm gonna say it here first...if he has a good season and we go on a run he will be a dark horse Heisman candidate.

Regarding McCall I believe he is the 3rd best QB (Other than DeShawn Watson & Josh Dobbs) we've faced since joining FCS. He makes the right decisions at the right times and manages game and teammates well. He's not the best passer or runner or anything but his total package is something to marvel. Its a shame that Drink didn't want him on the mountain. If NCSU can scheme an offense around what he is good at then they will succeed this year.

Drake Maye? Freddi Knighton? McCall. Trace McSorley.

There have been some very good QB's in the Sun Belt over the years and out of conference.

[kornegaylw]

Whether we like him or not, Grayson was very good (when healthy) of managing the run offense and when to keep it or run himself. When they also incorporated a short pass option, he was very good. When not healthy, it changed the offense quite a bit.

This is an area that our QB 1 could possibly improve.. Realize our offense is somewhat different in that we may not offer 3 options for QB...but with only two options, I believe this is an area that Joey Dimes could potentially improve if asked to run more. I have no clue what coaches may be telling our QB 1 on plays that may look like a read option. They may have told him there is only one option..hand off, etc...that is why I say potentially.

From a passing perspective, I would take Joey all day long.

Joey improved as 2023 went on and if he can do it during the season he can do it in the off season...Especially since he's had now 2 full offseasons with Ponce. I have high hopes for Joey. I'm gonna say it here first...if he has a good season and we go on a run he will be a dark horse Heisman candidate.

Regarding McCall I believe he is the 3rd best QB (Other than DeShawn Watson & Josh Dobbs) we've faced since joining FCS. He makes the right decisions at the right times and manages game and teammates well. He's not the best passer or runner or anything but his total package is something to marvel. Its a shame that Drink didn't want him on the mountain. If NCSU can scheme an offense around what he is good at then they will succeed this year.

Drake Maye? Freddi Knighton? McCall. Trace McSorley.

There have been some very good QB's in the Sun Belt over the years and out of conference.

Good afternoon, ericsaid - I haven't missed a single snap of Appalachian State football since Michigan in 2007 so take that as a reference....

1. Listen to what I'm about to say very carefully, Drake Maye is a bum. Fight me
2. IDK who Freddi Knighton is and that says everything about him.
3. The only notable achievment Trace McSorley has achieved is not losing to us and winning the 2017 Fiesta Bowl...woohoo...Zach Thomas was and probably still is better than Trace McSorely
4. Other Sun Belt & Southern Conference QBs we've faced that are worth mentioning (and better than Drake Maye...again come at me on this one bro, I'm shirtless and jacked up on Mountain Dew ready to fight you on it)...Joe Flacco, Levi Lewis, Brad Kaaya, Jake Fromm, Jacob Eason, Sam Howell (Not as much of a bum as Drake Maye but still a bum), Holton Ahlers, D'Eriq King (probably not better but I like the way his name is spelled), Baily Zappe, Haynes King (FSU Slayer)

[ericsaid]

Whether we like him or not, Grayson was very good (when healthy) of managing the run offense and when to keep it or run himself. When they also incorporated a short pass option, he was very good. When not healthy, it changed the offense quite a bit.

This is an area that our QB 1 could possibly improve.. Realize our offense is somewhat different in that we may not offer 3 options for QB...but with only two options, I believe this is an area that Joey Dimes could potentially improve if asked to run more. I have no clue what coaches may be telling our QB 1 on plays that may look like a read option. They may have told him there is only one option..hand off, etc...that is why I say potentially.

From a passing perspective, I would take Joey all day long.

Joey improved as 2023 went on and if he can do it during the season he can do it in the off season...Especially since he's had now 2 full offseasons with Ponce. I have high hopes for Joey. I'm gonna say it here first...if he has a good season and we go on a run he will be a dark horse Heisman candidate.

Regarding McCall I believe he is the 3rd best QB (Other than DeShawn Watson & Josh Dobbs) we've faced since joining FCS. He makes the right decisions at the right times and manages game and teammates well. He's not the best passer or runner or anything but his total package is something to marvel. Its a shame that Drink didn't want him on the mountain. If NCSU can scheme an offense around what he is good at then they will succeed this year.

Drake Maye? Freddi Knighton? McCall. Trace McSorley.

There have been some very good QB's in the Sun Belt over the years and out of conference.

Good afternoon, ericsaid - I haven't missed a single snap of Appalachian State football since Michigan in 2007 so take that as a reference....

1. Listen to what I'm about to say very carefully, Drake Maye is a bum. Fight me
2. IDK who Freddi Knighton is and that says everything about him.
3. The only notable achievment Trace McSorley has achieved is not losing to us and winning the 2017 Fiesta Bowl...woohoo...Zach Thomas was and probably still is better than Trace McSorely
4. Other Sun Belt & Southern Conference QBs we've faced that are worth mentioning (and better than Drake Maye...again come at me on this one bro, I'm shirtless and jacked up on Mountain Dew ready to fight you on it)...Joe Flacco, Levi Lewis, Brad Kaaya, Jake Fromm, Jacob Eason, Sam Howell (Not as much of a bum as Drake Maye but still a bum), Holton Ahlers, D'Eriq King (probably not better but I like the way his name is spelled), Baily Zappe, Haynes King (FSU Slayer)

You’re calling Drake Maye a bum? Without him, UNC is a 4 win team those years. He single handily elevated that program.

Kaaya was the bubble screen queen. Eason was hurt early and never recovered, Fromm was suitable for what UGA needed him to be, Ahlers is an enigma, King was always really good, until he wasn’t, and Zappe was awesome.

But Maye, MAYE?!? A bum? He’s easily the best QB App has ever played against next to Watson.

I’ll also say this, there are at least 4 QB’s in the Sun Belt who are better than Kade Klubnik. Let’s hope ol’ ball coach doesn’t realize that.

That said, I hope Klubnik transfers to App next year because he, with Ponce, could be a match made in heaven.

[kornegaylw]

Whether we like him or not, Grayson was very good (when healthy) of managing the run offense and when to keep it or run himself. When they also incorporated a short pass option, he was very good. When not healthy, it changed the offense quite a bit.

This is an area that our QB 1 could possibly improve.. Realize our offense is somewhat different in that we may not offer 3 options for QB...but with only two options, I believe this is an area that Joey Dimes could potentially improve if asked to run more. I have no clue what coaches may be telling our QB 1 on plays that may look like a read option. They may have told him there is only one option..hand off, etc...that is why I say potentially.

From a passing perspective, I would take Joey all day long.

Joey improved as 2023 went on and if he can do it during the season he can do it in the off season...Especially since he's had now 2 full offseasons with Ponce. I have high hopes for Joey. I'm gonna say it here first...if he has a good season and we go on a run he will be a dark horse Heisman candidate.

Regarding McCall I believe he is the 3rd best QB (Other than DeShawn Watson & Josh Dobbs) we've faced since joining FCS. He makes the right decisions at the right times and manages game and teammates well. He's not the best passer or runner or anything but his total package is something to marvel. Its a shame that Drink didn't want him on the mountain. If NCSU can scheme an offense around what he is good at then they will succeed this year.

Drake Maye? Freddi Knighton? McCall. Trace McSorley.

There have been some very good QB's in the Sun Belt over the years and out of conference.

Good afternoon, ericsaid - I haven't missed a single snap of Appalachian State football since Michigan in 2007 so take that as a reference....

1. Listen to what I'm about to say very carefully, Drake Maye is a bum. Fight me
2. IDK who Freddi Knighton is and that says everything about him.
3. The only notable achievment Trace McSorley has achieved is not losing to us and winning the 2017 Fiesta Bowl...woohoo...Zach Thomas was and probably still is better than Trace McSorely
4. Other Sun Belt & Southern Conference QBs we've faced that are worth mentioning (and better than Drake Maye...again come at me on this one bro, I'm shirtless and jacked up on Mountain Dew ready to fight you on it)...Joe Flacco, Levi Lewis, Brad Kaaya, Jake Fromm, Jacob Eason, Sam Howell (Not as much of a bum as Drake Maye but still a bum), Holton Ahlers, D'Eriq King (probably not better but I like the way his name is spelled), Baily Zappe, Haynes King (FSU Slayer)

You’re calling Drake Maye a bum? Without him, UNC is a 4 win team those years. He single handily elevated that program.

Kaaya was the bubble screen queen. Eason was hurt early and never recovered, Fromm was suitable for what UGA needed him to be, Ahlers is an enigma, King was always really good, until he wasn’t, and Zappe was awesome.

But Maye, MAYE?!? A bum? He’s easily the best QB App has ever played against next to Watson.

I’ll also say this, there are at least 4 QB’s in the Sun Belt who are better than Kade Klubnik. Let’s hope ol’ ball coach doesn’t realize that.

That said, I hope Klubnik transfers to App next year because he, with Ponce, could be a match made in heaven.

Drake Maye is a BUM!!

And yes I'd like to see Ponce get a chance to work with Klubnik in Boone next year

[Stonewall]

He played well against us. Thursday night wasn’t his best. Maybe he is dinged or just not quite acclimated. He’s a good player though . Not a great one by my standards.

[Bootsy]

Whether we like him or not, Grayson was very good (when healthy) of managing the run offense and when to keep it or run himself. When they also incorporated a short pass option, he was very good. When not healthy, it changed the offense quite a bit.

This is an area that our QB 1 could possibly improve.. Realize our offense is somewhat different in that we may not offer 3 options for QB...but with only two options, I believe this is an area that Joey Dimes could potentially improve if asked to run more. I have no clue what coaches may be telling our QB 1 on plays that may look like a read option. They may have told him there is only one option..hand off, etc...that is why I say potentially.

From a passing perspective, I would take Joey all day long.

Joey improved as 2023 went on and if he can do it during the season he can do it in the off season...Especially since he's had now 2 full offseasons with Ponce. I have high hopes for Joey. I'm gonna say it here first...if he has a good season and we go on a run he will be a dark horse Heisman candidate.

Regarding McCall I believe he is the 3rd best QB (Other than DeShawn Watson & Josh Dobbs) we've faced since joining FCS. He makes the right decisions at the right times and manages game and teammates well. He's not the best passer or runner or anything but his total package is something to marvel. Its a shame that Drink didn't want him on the mountain. If NCSU can scheme an offense around what he is good at then they will succeed this year.

Drake Maye? Freddi Knighton? McCall. Trace McSorley.

There have been some very good QB's in the Sun Belt over the years and out of conference.

Good afternoon, ericsaid - I haven't missed a single snap of Appalachian State football since Michigan in 2007 so take that as a reference....

1. Listen to what I'm about to say very carefully, Drake Maye is a bum. Fight me
2. IDK who Freddi Knighton is and that says everything about him.
3. The only notable achievment Trace McSorley has achieved is not losing to us and winning the 2017 Fiesta Bowl...woohoo...Zach Thomas was and probably still is better than Trace McSorely
4. Other Sun Belt & Southern Conference QBs we've faced that are worth mentioning (and better than Drake Maye...again come at me on this one bro, I'm shirtless and jacked up on Mountain Dew ready to fight you on it)...Joe Flacco, Levi Lewis, Brad Kaaya, Jake Fromm, Jacob Eason, Sam Howell (Not as much of a bum as Drake Maye but still a bum), Holton Ahlers, D'Eriq King (probably not better but I like the way his name is spelled), Baily Zappe, Haynes King (FSU Slayer)

^^literally this^^

In his last two campaigns at UNC, Maye regressed as the season progressed.