Officiating Vs. GSU

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Re: Officiating Vs. GSU

Unread post by bcoach » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:02 am

asutrnr81 wrote:This was the worst crew we have had all year.

Worst spots all year! The one on 3rd down on the first possession was abysmal!

So a kid gets pushed out of bounds ends up near the stands and raises his arms to get the fans fired up and he gets a penalty? UNSPORTSMANSHIP?

This one came up on the call in show by "Melody". We were talking about it all day as i sit in front of one of players dad's. The GS center literally moved the ball FORWARD before the snap on nearly every play sometimes as much as half a yard....but ALWAYS at least the length of the football! NEVER any call.

Karl Anderson would have had 25 tackles if he had not been held on nearly every sweep! He was getting literally spun sideways by the holds.

Is there any video available to look at the GS center snap issue? Where would I look?
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Re: Officiating Vs. GSU

Unread post by 24AppState » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:35 am

That call was complete BS. One last dig by SoCon refs. He was pumping our fans up. Even if he was in front of the GSU fans, why is that a flag? Turn it on ANY game, I guarantee if you see the visiting team score, the player who scores immediately tells the crowd to be quiet or some other celebration or "taunt." Just another B.S. call by these high school officials, who seemed to want to throw a flag every play if possible. Just another reason to leave this conference.

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Re: Officiating Vs. GSU

Unread post by huskie3 » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:53 am

If I remember correctly, 3 of our flags were thrown by the same ref - the one on our sideline. I think he was the one throwing on Cox for pumping arms FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FIELD!
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Re: Officiating Vs. GSU

Unread post by CVAPP » Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:03 am

We have cheerleaders to pump up the crowd. Our players need to stick to bidness.

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Re: Officiating Vs. GSU

Unread post by JTApps1 » Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:19 am

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proasu89 wrote:I was very vocal yesterday about my opinion of the 3rd down spot in the 1st quarter...after watching the replay today I'm not so sure they didn't get it right.
I am. The ball should have been spotted with its nose just over the 29. Instead it was spotted with its nose just over the 30. But as mentioned by several others, this crew was not very detail minded when it came to spotting the ball. Anywhere within 2-3 yards was close enough for them.

I think Marcus deserved the taunting call. If you do things like that you put yourself in a position to get a flag. He's a great kid that obviously plays with a lot of heart and I hope he learned a lesson he never forgets.
Cox was pumping up our fans who were directly in front of him. No GSU player was close to him, and the GSU fans were two sections down. I guess the ref forgot we actually have fans on both sides of our stadium unlike most SoCon schools. Typical call from the lets be nice police called SoCon officiating.

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Unread post by 24AppState » Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:32 am

I'm going to have to disagree. I found it VERY refreshing to see all the emotion from the players. Great to see the guys giving it their all and wanting the crowd to do it as well. I loved it, the ref was in the wrong, in my opinion.

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Re: Officiating Vs. GSU

Unread post by CVAPP » Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:10 pm

An 18 year old playing his heart out gets a little caught up in the heat of the moment and gestures to the crowd. That's a mistake I expect from an 18 year old, but not one I care to see repeated.

A bunch of adults on a message board trying to say it wasn't this, or it wasn't that, is something I simply can't understand.

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Re: Officiating Vs. GSU

Unread post by bcoach » Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:35 pm

Anyone who has been to the games over the last few years will have to understand we are going to get reputation calls. When enough time goes bye that we have proven we know how to act it will go away. all the players should be told by the coaches that because of our reputation we are going to get called for celebration or taunting if it even gets close. Those summersaults into the end zone and some of that other crap haunts us.

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Re: Officiating Vs. GSU

Unread post by moonshine » Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:39 pm

Call it reputation, call it over zealous, call it what you will...that unsportsmanslike penalty Cox received for pumping up our fans was BS! For those that think it was legit, I have one question.

Should it be a penalty when the D starts trying to pump up the fans (using the same arm motion) to make noise before the ball is snapped? :roll:
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Unread post by App91 » Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:55 pm

Part of me wants to say thanks to the refs! That bad first down spot early on got the crowd into it. It also had the defense come alive, even though they scored. The other calls seemed to fire the guys up some, which is fire we had not seen to that point. I know I was taking up bail money at half time, i was ready to go! What really honked me off was watch the coaches and ref's interact. ref's wouldn't talk just pointed for them to get back to the sideline.

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Re: Officiating Vs. GSU

Unread post by JTApps1 » Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:18 pm

CVAPP wrote:An 18 year old playing his heart out gets a little caught up in the heat of the moment and gestures to the crowd. That's a mistake I expect from an 18 year old, but not one I care to see repeated.

A bunch of adults on a message board trying to say it wasn't this, or it wasn't that, is something I simply can't understand.
If it was a celebration penalty like we had in past years such as flipping into the end zone, dunking the ball, or taking off a helmet then I would agree with you. This was a player trying to get his home crowd excited for the first really positive moments we've had in KBS all year. It wasn't a look at me thing, or a taunting of the other team issue.

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Re: Officiating Vs. GSU

Unread post by AppState89 » Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:25 pm

Doing flips as you score is one thing, but to get the fans pumped up like Cox did????? I really don't see how that is wrong. I can see getting upset over the TD thing, but gettting the crowd pumped, hmmmm... Like the other poster said, what is the difference if a defensive player does it to get the crowd pumped up? Cox doing it to "OUR" crowd shouldn't have been a penality, but if he did it to the GSU crowd or the players, YES, flag him.

I think it was a BS call and I agree with Charlie, why are we wasting time on crap...we won and it's over now...

Yes, I'm 100% guilty of wasting keystrokes on this now....

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Re: Officiating Vs. GSU

Unread post by TheMoody1 » Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:43 pm

The only other call that was bad as the call on Cox was the improper fair catch signal call. With all those ref's on the field I cant believe they couldn't have discussed that bs call and got it right.

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Re: Officiating Vs. GSU

Unread post by YesAppCan » Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:45 pm

While we're at it, wasting keystrokes... How about the "invalid fair catch signal"? I had to chuckle.

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Re: Officiating Vs. GSU

Unread post by Yosef84 » Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:35 pm

I think unsportsmanlike call on Cox was an example of rule that goes far beyond the original intent. Unfortunately, I think the call meets the letter of the rule. Celebration should be directed within the team. If it is directed toward the stands or the opposing team, it is considered "unsportsmanlike" celebration. This application of the rule is ridiculous, but it's the rule.

Two or three years ago, Georgia had scored the go ahead touchdown against LSU. The WR who caught the TD pass, ran through the end zone and raised his index finger to the home fans (Georgia fans) signaling "#1". He was flagged for celebration and Georgia took a 15 yard penalty on the kickoff, which set up a nice return, great field position and the winning score by LSU.

Most refs these days use better judgment in applying the rule.

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Re: Officiating Vs. GSU

Unread post by Black Saturday » Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:54 pm

CVAPP wrote:An 18 year old playing his heart out gets a little caught up in the heat of the moment and gestures to the crowd. That's a mistake I expect from an 18 year old, but not one I care to see repeated.

A bunch of adults on a message board trying to say it wasn't this, or it wasn't that, is something I simply can't understand.

Why don't we just disband? :lol:
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Re: Officiating Vs. GSU

Unread post by WataugaMan » Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:03 pm

Black Saturday wrote:
CVAPP wrote:An 18 year old playing his heart out gets a little caught up in the heat of the moment and gestures to the crowd. That's a mistake I expect from an 18 year old, but not one I care to see repeated.

A bunch of adults on a message board trying to say it wasn't this, or it wasn't that, is something I simply can't understand.

Why don't we just disband? :lol:
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Re: Officiating Vs. GSU

Unread post by HaveAnAppForThat » Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:36 pm

I can see how throwing up your hands for a second or two at the crowd after a good run like that as unnecessary but if Cox got penalized for that why didn't Jerick McKinnon get penalized earlier in the game for crossing his arms in the back of the endzone and tilting his head looking up at some of our band members and students in the endzone? Some people would consider that as taunting too!!!

The whole team was fired up yesterday and I haven't seen that all year! Let's go beat Chatty next weekend (in the best Sean Connery voice) at The Rock!

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Re: Officiating Vs. GSU

Unread post by Black Saturday » Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:57 pm

WataugaMan wrote:
Black Saturday wrote:
CVAPP wrote:An 18 year old playing his heart out gets a little caught up in the heat of the moment and gestures to the crowd. That's a mistake I expect from an 18 year old, but not one I care to see repeated.

A bunch of adults on a message board trying to say it wasn't this, or it wasn't that, is something I simply can't understand.

Why don't we just disband? :lol:
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Another BS call, eh? :ugeek:
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Re: Officiating Vs. GSU

Unread post by JCline0429 » Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:58 pm

CVAPP wrote:We have cheerleaders to pump up the crowd. Our players need to stick to bidness.

Aye! Aye! Rep point.
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