State of Appalachian athletics

[WVAPPeer]

"Wish I could give +100 for this. There is so much difference between a firing and a contract expiring that I cannot believe we are actually having this discussion. Just goes to show how far misperception and inaccurate reporting can carry something."

AMEN - end of story!!!

[bcoach]

Inaccurate journalism aside, if you hire a painter to paint a room and sign a contract for them to do the job, what do you call it when the room is done being painted? Would you say that you fired the painter? No, the terms of the contract were fulfilled.

That is because there is no more painting to be done. There is more BB to coach.

[fjblair]

.... It was the expiration of a contract, it was not a firing. Accuracy is important. Again, it's easy to say he was fired, but in reality his contract was executed to term. He was not fired, his contract will expire as written.

Well, try to convince the rest of the world of that. Good luck.

Associated Press Headline:
Jason Capel fired as Appalachian State head coach after four seasons

NBC Sports Headline:
Report: Jason Capel fired as coach of Appalachian State

Local News 8 Headline:
Appalachian State fires coach Capel

CBSSports.com Headline:
Appalachian State fires head coach Jason Capel

Yes. Get technical, split hairs but it is a FIRING.

[AppinVA]

.... It was the expiration of a contract, it was not a firing. Accuracy is important. Again, it's easy to say he was fired, but in reality his contract was executed to term. He was not fired, his contract will expire as written.

Well, try to convince the rest of the world of that. Good luck.

Associated Press Headline:
Jason Capel fired as Appalachian State head coach after four seasons

NBC Sports Headline:
Report: Jason Capel fired as coach of Appalachian State

Local News 8 Headline:
Appalachian State fires coach Capel

CBSSports.com Headline:
Appalachian State fires head coach Jason Capel

Yes. Get technical, split hairs but it is a FIRING.

It should've been a firing, because it should've happened two years ago.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

My question for everyone on here is how do we improve the current state of our athletics? I was looking a moment ago on the Socon Rankings page and it seems like we are barely in the top half of the conference for any of our sports. Our power sport football struggled last year. After the awesome season the baseball team had two years ago, they have fallen down. We're firing and hiring coaches creating hope but a lot of uncertainty. Teams struggling to love up to academic expectations. Key players on multiple teams getting suspended/kicked off for various reasons.Yet we're moving up to a new league in the Sun Belt and the excitement is there for that which is great however the biggest uncertainty of them all worries me. What if the new chancellor (who ever it is) isn't supportive of athletics? I hate to say it but we are somewhat of a fragile program right now. A lot of support but we are struggling on the field. I'm as excited as anyone for the new league and the times ahead and will always bleed the black and gold being there no matter what but I have to say there are many improvements needed and the wrong moves could be tough on us as fans, the reputation of our programs, etc. I fully believe we will recover but does anyone have any other thoughts on the current state of our program? Agreements or disagreements? Go Apps!

IF the Commish Cup was awarded today we would win the Cup again. More do to having more sports, but we are leading in points. No tearing it up, but the most consistent I guess. We are 5th in points per sport average. That is off a bit.

The women are in 3rd in points, and 4th in average points per sport.

We are 2nd in overall points when both cups are combined. Not the norm for us, I realize.

On the one hand, this has not been a great year and I hate to leave the SoCon in this manner, but it is also not crazy bad at this point. I guess it is not as bad as it seems.

[T-Dog]

Instead of a discussion about the state of athletics, we get an argument about technical terms. Good grief.

20 programs is a lot for a school at our level. To a point, it's hard to be highly competitive at all of them. I do wonder if we can ever field teams at a high, competitive level in tennis and golf. They have to go way off campus on a regular basis for practice and drive all over the East Coast early in their seasons.

[App91]

.... It was the expiration of a contract, it was not a firing. Accuracy is important. Again, it's easy to say he was fired, but in reality his contract was executed to term. He was not fired, his contract will expire as written.

Well, try to convince the rest of the world of that. Good luck.

Associated Press Headline:
Jason Capel fired as Appalachian State head coach after four seasons

NBC Sports Headline:
Report: Jason Capel fired as coach of Appalachian State

Local News 8 Headline:
Appalachian State fires coach Capel

CBSSports.com Headline:
Appalachian State fires head coach Jason Capel

Yes. Get technical, split hairs but it is a FIRING.

It should've been a firing, because it should've happened two years ago.

He was asked not to return!

[App91]

Instead of a discussion about the state of athletics, we get an argument about technical terms. Good grief.

20 programs is a lot for a school at our level. To a point, it's hard to be highly competitive at all of them. I do wonder if we can ever field teams at a high, competitive level in tennis and golf. They have to go way off campus on a regular basis for practice and drive all over the East Coast early in their seasons.

Need to get a handle on the Big 3 revenue before we worry about those. FB, we hope is just an outlier, an abberation? MBB, a train wreck on and off the court. My hope is we find someone who can coach, teach, recruit, get kids to class and people in the arena. Beisbol?? I have no clue what the issue is there, winter I hope but dang, have these guys fielded or thrown a ball before this year. When we get these in order, the rest will follow. T&F will be fine, as long as Darcy is here, WBB will be good. Dump FH. Our outdoor spring sports in the mountains will just never be our forte

[Maddog1956]

Wish I could give +100 for this. There is so much difference between a firing and a contract expiring that I cannot believe we are actually having this discussion. Just goes to show how far misperception and inaccurate reporting can carry something.

If it's not your choice to stay or leave and the same job is still there isn't any difference!

But you're free to hire from that pool if you wish.

[Yosef10]

ASUmointaineers comparison is apples to oranges. In sports AND business if you do a good job you're going to be retained past your expired contract. If you're not retained, not due to budget cuts or other off wall comparisons since obviously the program isn't having budget cuts, it is because your performance was poor. If Capel goes to another AD, could be one who has never heard of him, and puts down on his application he was let go because his contract expired the AD will see that as poor job performance and a FIRING.

[kiddbrewer]

It should've been a firing, because it should've happened two years ago.

Now that is what I can agree with. Good Lord, we're bickering about whether or not it was a firing or a non-renewal. I, and I would be willing to bet others, could care less. The important thing is we will have a new coach next year and that's what matter.