Recruiting, 2013

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Re: Recruiting, 2013

Unread post by bcoach » Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:09 pm

bcoach wrote:I would love to see a QB.
For the future.

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Re: Recruiting, 2013

Unread post by t4pizza » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:32 pm

AppState89 wrote:
t4pizza wrote:
asutrnr81 wrote:
Pilotwx wrote:MICHAEL JULIAN 6-5 QB 4.56 40 (long shot)! But get a year of learning under Jamal Jackson, and Satterfield. We would have a lot of pieces to the puzzle to make a run for another FCS Title, or a jump to FBS. Either way we would be set.

Satt (understated) knows the importance of the QB...He had a pretty good one at Toledo, and parlayed that into the job at FIU....but boy were they bad at QB by the time he left and came to Boone. It is clear that the QB position in the offense he wants to run is hyper important.....and since he is in charge, I do not think that will be a problem much any more!

Go APPS!
I am just curious, when has the QB position been a problem at App? Certainly not in recent memory. I am excited Satt is in charge but lets not all pretend that our team couldn't get it's head out of it's ass for the last 24 years. There we legitimate issues in the last regime but QB play wasn't one of those issues. Most schools would kill to have RW, AE, DP, JJ in the last ten years. All of those QBs excelled in their own way.
believe the original statement was typed because we will need another quality QB after next season. Just like this year, when JJ went out, we had to use our 4th string QB and thank God it worked out well for us. There just isn't any experience behind JJ and that is scary.

The only reason that we had to use our #4 QB was because a higher rated QB was suspended for the season and the backup QB went down with a knee injury. We had 3 (some could argue 4 if you count LH) quality QBs on our roster(JJ, KB, KB-2) and only had to use the #4 because of rare instances. We have always recruited well at the QB position and I expect we will continue to do so. Any implication that JM dropped the ball on recruiting the QB position is just an incorrect assessment of our talent at QB.

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Re: Recruiting, 2013

Unread post by GlassOnion » Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:02 pm

I dont know exactly how you can describe the backup QBs as "quality" when we've yet to even see them in a college game. Even if/when they do get a snap or two, they only hand it off. Cadet looked like the sure replacement for AE before we found out he couldnt throw it a lick.

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Re: Recruiting, 2013

Unread post by JCline0429 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:11 pm

GlassOnion wrote:I dont know exactly how you can describe the backup QBs as "quality" when we've yet to even see them in a college game. Even if/when they do get a snap or two, they only hand it off. Cadet looked like the sure replacement for AE before we found out he couldnt throw it a lick.
You don't pull your #1 quarterback in close games (unless the guy can't get the job done) and we sure had enough of them .
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Re: Recruiting, 2013

Unread post by GlassOnion » Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:48 pm

JCline0429 wrote:
GlassOnion wrote:I dont know exactly how you can describe the backup QBs as "quality" when we've yet to even see them in a college game. Even if/when they do get a snap or two, they only hand it off. Cadet looked like the sure replacement for AE before we found out he couldnt throw it a lick.
You don't pull your #1 quarterback in close games (unless the guy can't get the job done) and we sure had enough of them .
Thats not really related to what I posted...

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Re: Recruiting, 2013

Unread post by t4pizza » Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:27 am

GlassOnion wrote:I dont know exactly how you can describe the backup QBs as "quality" when we've yet to even see them in a college game. Even if/when they do get a snap or two, they only hand it off. Cadet looked like the sure replacement for AE before we found out he couldnt throw it a lick.
You are right in that you never know until they get in the game but I am basing my conclusinon on initial recruiting informaiont, coaches comments during spring and fall practices, performance in scrimmages and stuff like that. All three of those QB's appear to have the ability to run our offense at a high level if given the opportunity.

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Re: Recruiting, 2013

Unread post by bcoach » Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:29 am

GlassOnion wrote:I dont know exactly how you can describe the backup QBs as "quality" when we've yet to even see them in a college game. Even if/when they do get a snap or two, they only hand it off. Cadet looked like the sure replacement for AE before we found out he couldnt throw it a lick.
We have had our differences but I have to go with the onion on this one. We have no idea of the quality of our backups on this level because we NEVER play them. We could be up by 50 with 9 minutes to go and the starter is still in. With that said my comment about wanting another QB was just to keep the pipeline full. I am not making a comment about who we have because again, we don't really know. We have not had a QB problem for a long time we just need to keep the pipeline full.

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Re: Recruiting, 2013

Unread post by GlassOnion » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:59 am

bcoach wrote: We have had our differences but I have to go with the onion on this one. We have no idea of the quality of our backups on this level because we NEVER play them. We could be up by 50 with 9 minutes to go and the starter is still in. With that said my comment about wanting another QB was just to keep the pipeline full. I am not making a comment about who we have because again, we don't really know. We have not had a QB problem for a long time we just need to keep the pipeline full.
We HAD a QB pipeline for sure, but we had an OL pipeline as well with something like 10 All America guys as well, that was just allowed to wither away. I'll breathe easy when I see the next QB on the field, the past few years have been the end of many good things, the future starts now.

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Re: Recruiting, 2013

Unread post by appmandan » Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:24 pm

Here's my first post in a while, and I think my first on the new board, but on to my post. I heard today through some hair salon gossip that Beau Nunn from York Comprehensive High is coming to App? Anyone heard? I did a quick search of the board and couldn't find his name.

http://www.ncsasports.org/football-recr ... /beau-nunn

http://www.enquirerherald.com/2012/12/0 ... north.html

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Re: Recruiting, 2013

Unread post by AppState89 » Tue Jan 01, 2013 1:49 am

appmandan wrote:Here's my first post in a while, and I think my first on the new board, but on to my post. I heard today through some hair salon gossip that Beau Nunn from York Comprehensive High is coming to App? Anyone heard? I did a quick search of the board and couldn't find his name.

http://www.ncsasports.org/football-recr ... /beau-nunn

http://www.enquirerherald.com/2012/12/0 ... north.html
That's a big guy and he will put on 30-50 lbs while in college.
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Re: Recruiting, 2013

Unread post by JCline0429 » Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:05 pm

GlassOnion wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
GlassOnion wrote:I dont know exactly how you can describe the backup QBs as "quality" when we've yet to even see them in a college game. Even if/when they do get a snap or two, they only hand it off. Cadet looked like the sure replacement for AE before we found out he couldnt throw it a lick.
You don't pull your #1 quarterback in close games (unless the guy can't get the job done) and we sure had enough of them .
Thats not really related to what I posted...
In your opinion.
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Re: Recruiting, 2013

Unread post by JCline0429 » Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:07 pm

GlassOnion wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
GlassOnion wrote:I dont know exactly how you can describe the backup QBs as "quality" when we've yet to even see them in a college game. Even if/when they do get a snap or two, they only hand it off. Cadet looked like the sure replacement for AE before we found out he couldnt throw it a lick.
You don't pull your #1 quarterback in close games (unless the guy can't get the job done) and we sure had enough of them .
Thats not really related to what I posted...
Maybe there's no Armanti on the horizon, but he had almost no significant game experience before he burst on the scene. He got in on a few plays vs NC State mostly.
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Re: Recruiting, 2013

Unread post by JCline0429 » Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:11 pm

bcoach wrote:
GlassOnion wrote:I dont know exactly how you can describe the backup QBs as "quality" when we've yet to even see them in a college game. Even if/when they do get a snap or two, they only hand it off. Cadet looked like the sure replacement for AE before we found out he couldnt throw it a lick.
We have had our differences but I have to go with the onion on this one. We have no idea of the quality of our backups on this level because we NEVER play them. We could be up by 50 with 9 minutes to go and the starter is still in. With that said my comment about wanting another QB was just to keep the pipeline full. I am not making a comment about who we have because again, we don't really know. We have not had a QB problem for a long time we just need to keep the pipeline full.
Of course, but see my reminder about Armanti. Maybe we will be blessed or we have enough blowouts to get some of our understeadies some significant PT. I just didn't see many opportunities to pull Jamal this year due to the close scores. It seems one of guys got some time vs Coastal as well as the WCU games. Seems he went like 20 for 21 or something like that.
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Re: Recruiting, 2013

Unread post by bcoach » Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:51 am

JCline0429 wrote:
bcoach wrote:
GlassOnion wrote:I dont know exactly how you can describe the backup QBs as "quality" when we've yet to even see them in a college game. Even if/when they do get a snap or two, they only hand it off. Cadet looked like the sure replacement for AE before we found out he couldnt throw it a lick.
We have had our differences but I have to go with the onion on this one. We have no idea of the quality of our backups on this level because we NEVER play them. We could be up by 50 with 9 minutes to go and the starter is still in. With that said my comment about wanting another QB was just to keep the pipeline full. I am not making a comment about who we have because again, we don't really know. We have not had a QB problem for a long time we just need to keep the pipeline full.
Of course, but see my reminder about Armanti. Maybe we will be blessed or we have enough blowouts to get some of our understeadies some significant PT. I just didn't see many opportunities to pull Jamal this year due to the close scores. It seems one of guys got some time vs Coastal as well as the WCU games. Seems he went like 20 for 21 or something like that.
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Re: Recruiting, 2013

Unread post by AppGrad78 » Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:38 pm

Senior season video of one of our targets: DL David "D.J." Jones (6-2, 291) of Wren High School in Piedmont, S.C. Dang, this guy's good.

http://www.maxpreps.com/athletes/-rtBcA ... -jones.htm

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Unread post by JCline0429 » Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:44 pm

AppGrad78 wrote:Senior season video of one of our targets: DL David "D.J." Jones (6-2, 291) of Wren High School in Piedmont, S.C. Dang, this guy's good.

http://www.maxpreps.com/athletes/-rtBcA ... -jones.htm
You know, Charlie, you do a fantastic job of providing us up to the minute information on App recruiting. I just wish there was a better measure for evaluating character and things like esprit de corps and team first mentality so we could have helped avoid the off the field incidents and resulting bad pub during the last year or so.
Keep up the good work.
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Re: Recruiting, 2013

Unread post by AppGrad78 » Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:01 pm

JCline0429 wrote:
AppGrad78 wrote:Senior season video of one of our targets: DL David "D.J." Jones (6-2, 291) of Wren High School in Piedmont, S.C. Dang, this guy's good.

http://www.maxpreps.com/athletes/-rtBcA ... -jones.htm
You know, Charlie, you do a fantastic job of providing us up to the minute information on App recruiting. I just wish there was a better measure for evaluating character and things like esprit de corps and team first mentality so we could have helped avoid the off the field incidents and resulting bad pub during the last year or so.
Keep up the good work.
Thanks, JG

One of the things I look at when evaluating video is how does the athlete act after he makes a big play. I'm looking for players who understand the term "measured celebration." A smidgen of chest thumpin' is OK but I'd rather have a player who is so accustomed to making big plays that he doesn't see the need to draw attention to himself. D.J. Jones seems to be that type of player. That characteristic translates to off-the-field behavior, as well. Another evaluation tool I find useful is Twitter. Many high school athletes have Twitter accounts these days, and their writing more often than not exposes flaws or brings to light positive traits. For example, I've been impressed with the quality and maturity of Dante Jones' tweets.

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Re: Recruiting, 2013

Unread post by JCline0429 » Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:19 pm

AppGrad78 wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
AppGrad78 wrote:Senior season video of one of our targets: DL David "D.J." Jones (6-2, 291) of Wren High School in Piedmont, S.C. Dang, this guy's good.

http://www.maxpreps.com/athletes/-rtBcA ... -jones.htm
You know, Charlie, you do a fantastic job of providing us up to the minute information on App recruiting. I just wish there was a better measure for evaluating character and things like esprit de corps and team first mentality so we could have helped avoid the off the field incidents and resulting bad pub during the last year or so.
Keep up the good work.
Thanks, JG

One of the things I look at when evaluating video is how does the athlete act after he makes a big play. I'm looking for players who understand the term "measured celebration." A smidgen of chest thumpin' is OK but I'd rather have a player who is so accustomed to making big plays that he doesn't see the need to draw attention to himself. D.J. Jones seems to be that type of player. That characteristic translates to off-the-field behavior, as well. Another evaluation tool I find useful is Twitter. Many high school athletes have Twitter accounts these days, and their writing more often than not exposes flaws or brings to light positive traits. For example, I've been impressed with the quality and maturity of Dante Jones' tweets.
Nice strategy. I still have negative thoughts about Quick's uncharacteristic dunks over the goal posts. I suppose he made up for it by his on the field accomplishments, but still...
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Re: Recruiting, 2013

Unread post by moehler » Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:19 pm

Jones looks really good, whats impressive is at 6'1, he has a large frame, and looks like he could add 15-20 pounds and not lose a step. Quesion for anyone who knows, who else is recruiting him?

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Re: Recruiting, 2013

Unread post by mtnjax » Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:08 pm

JCline0429 wrote: Nice strategy. I still have negative thoughts about Quick's uncharacteristic dunks over the goal posts. I suppose he made up for it by his on the field accomplishments, but still...
Pretty sure Coach Moore gave him permission for that dunk during the Wofford game. it was on his 3rd 50 yd TD of the game

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