Huge scheduling news coming

[AppAlum1]

I also am tired of playing the VTs and the LSUs that we can't compete with. I understand the money end but I at least want to go into a game having a chance.

I am glad you didn't make the schedule back in '07.

The onomatopoeia of this post is: "Zoing!" !!!

[JTApps1]

I also am tired of playing the VTs and the LSUs that we can't compete with. I understand the money end but I at least want to go into a game having a chance.

I am glad you didn't make the schedule back in '07.

We also have 22 more players now, and overall they'll be better athletes than what we put on the field against those teams. Plus in the VT game we were completely unprepared to play that day. Can't use it as a measuring stick.

Well we did put on uniforms and went out on the field so it must be used. With that aside Michigan is the only team of that caliber we have beaten. Now maybe some day it will be more realistic but for the foreseeable future I would rather stick to the Wakes and Dukes of the world than the LSUs. Just my feelings.

I'd love to start the Wake series back up too. We need to make it a home and home thought because they won't pay nearly as much as the SEC or BIG (still think that's a dumb name) will pay us.

[AppinVA]

I also am tired of playing the VTs and the LSUs that we can't compete with. I understand the money end but I at least want to go into a game having a chance.

I am glad you didn't make the schedule back in '07.

We also have 22 more players now, and overall they'll be better athletes than what we put on the field against those teams. Plus in the VT game we were completely unprepared to play that day. Can't use it as a measuring stick.

Well we did put on uniforms and went out on the field so it must be used. With that aside Michigan is the only team of that caliber we have beaten. Now maybe some day it will be more realistic but for the foreseeable future I would rather stick to the Wakes and Dukes of the world than the LSUs. Just my feelings.

I'd love to start the Wake series back up too. We need to make it a home and home thought because they won't pay nearly as much as the SEC or BIG (still think that's a dumb name) will pay us.

Plus, we can cram more into KBS than they can cram into Groves.

[bcoach]

I also am tired of playing the VTs and the LSUs that we can't compete with. I understand the money end but I at least want to go into a game having a chance.

I am glad you didn't make the schedule back in '07.

We also have 22 more players now, and overall they'll be better athletes than what we put on the field against those teams. Plus in the VT game we were completely unprepared to play that day. Can't use it as a measuring stick.

Well we did put on uniforms and went out on the field so it must be used. With that aside Michigan is the only team of that caliber we have beaten. Now maybe some day it will be more realistic but for the foreseeable future I would rather stick to the Wakes and Dukes of the world than the LSUs. Just my feelings.

I'd love to start the Wake series back up too. We need to make it a home and home thought because they won't pay nearly as much as the SEC or BIG (still think that's a dumb name) will pay us.

Those were fun games. I agree with BIG? What a creative name.

[firemoose]

Yes you are exactly right and that is what I disagree with. I think it all revolves around what you feel a bowl should be. It used to be a reward for a good season and a chance for another OOC game. Now in many cases it is just an OOC game. In my opinion 6-6 is not a season to be rewarded for, nor is 7-5. 8-4 would be necessary in my book if it is something to get a trophy for. I am VERY sure I am in the minority.

Coach...I happen to agree with you but there is one thing missing. You're referring to the past and not too distant past. How many bowls were there in the times you were talking about? Because last year and this year there are 35. THIRTY FIVE. That means 70 teams are going to play in bowls this year, just like last year. Well more than half of the D1 FBS programs will play in a bowl. Are there 70 D1 teams who finish 8-4? 7-5? Whether we like it or not it's the world we live in. If you stick with 8-4 as the limit then several bowls will have no teams to play. I think the number of bowls is crazy and have been making jokes about it since before it was 30. Unfortunately in many cases it is what it is, another OOC game that has a trophy.

[bcoach]

Yes you are exactly right and that is what I disagree with. I think it all revolves around what you feel a bowl should be. It used to be a reward for a good season and a chance for another OOC game. Now in many cases it is just an OOC game. In my opinion 6-6 is not a season to be rewarded for, nor is 7-5. 8-4 would be necessary in my book if it is something to get a trophy for. I am VERY sure I am in the minority.

Coach...I happen to agree with you but there is one thing missing. You're referring to the past and not too distant past. How many bowls were there in the times you were talking about? Because last year and this year there are 35. THIRTY FIVE. That means 70 teams are going to play in bowls this year, just like last year. Well more than half of the D1 FBS programs will play in a bowl. Are there 70 D1 teams who finish 8-4? 7-5? Whether we like it or not it's the world we live in. If you stick with 8-4 as the limit then several bowls will have no teams to play. I think the number of bowls is crazy and have been making jokes about it since before it was 30. Unfortunately in many cases it is what it is, another OOC game that has a trophy.

Yes I agree on every point. There are just way too many bowls.

[appst89]

Yes you are exactly right and that is what I disagree with. I think it all revolves around what you feel a bowl should be. It used to be a reward for a good season and a chance for another OOC game. Now in many cases it is just an OOC game. In my opinion 6-6 is not a season to be rewarded for, nor is 7-5. 8-4 would be necessary in my book if it is something to get a trophy for. I am VERY sure I am in the minority.

Coach...I happen to agree with you but there is one thing missing. You're referring to the past and not too distant past. How many bowls were there in the times you were talking about? Because last year and this year there are 35. THIRTY FIVE. That means 70 teams are going to play in bowls this year, just like last year. Well more than half of the D1 FBS programs will play in a bowl. Are there 70 D1 teams who finish 8-4? 7-5? Whether we like it or not it's the world we live in. If you stick with 8-4 as the limit then several bowls will have no teams to play. I think the number of bowls is crazy and have been making jokes about it since before it was 30. Unfortunately in many cases it is what it is, another OOC game that has a trophy.

Yes I agree on every point. There are just way too many bowls.

39 next year.

[WVAPPeer]

Yes you are exactly right and that is what I disagree with. I think it all revolves around what you feel a bowl should be. It used to be a reward for a good season and a chance for another OOC game. Now in many cases it is just an OOC game. In my opinion 6-6 is not a season to be rewarded for, nor is 7-5. 8-4 would be necessary in my book if it is something to get a trophy for. I am VERY sure I am in the minority.

I'm with you in that minority ---

[AppinVA]

Yes you are exactly right and that is what I disagree with. I think it all revolves around what you feel a bowl should be. It used to be a reward for a good season and a chance for another OOC game. Now in many cases it is just an OOC game. In my opinion 6-6 is not a season to be rewarded for, nor is 7-5. 8-4 would be necessary in my book if it is something to get a trophy for. I am VERY sure I am in the minority.

I'm with you in that minority ---

I agree, but I ain't too proud to accept a bowl if we are 6-6 or 7-5.

[EastHallApp]

Yes I agree on every point. There are just way too many bowls.

I think a lot of people agree with that. I guess I would just ask, too many for whom?

If you mean there are so many bowls that many of them have lost almost any semblance of prestige, then I'd agree. But who is hurt by them? Fans? If you don't like a bowl, don't watch it.

Players? Seems like for the most part, players enjoy going to even minor bowls, where they get to be treated like celebs for a few days and compete on ESPN (which, for schools like App, certainly is a big deal).

And while pundits and fans may roll their eyes at the Bahamas Bowl, you can't tell me a trip down there in late December/early January to watch App play wouldn't sound pretty good.

So yeah, new bowl games mean more kids who went 6-6 get to go play one more game on TV. But really, what is so terrible about that?

[AppAttack]

Would love a match up with WVU. Just my 2 cents.

I'd like to see home and homes with Wake, Duke, ECU and Marshall somewhere in our near future.

Wake owes us about 20 games at the Rock, then we'll see whazup.

[bcoach]

Yes I agree on every point. There are just way too many bowls.

I think a lot of people agree with that. I guess I would just ask, too many for whom?

If you mean there are so many bowls that many of them have lost almost any semblance of prestige, then I'd agree. But who is hurt by them? Fans? If you don't like a bowl, don't watch it.

Players? Seems like for the most part, players enjoy going to even minor bowls, where they get to be treated like celebs for a few days and compete on ESPN (which, for schools like App, certainly is a big deal).

And while pundits and fans may roll their eyes at the Bahamas Bowl, you can't tell me a trip down there in late December/early January to watch App play wouldn't sound pretty good.

So yeah, new bowl games mean more kids who went 6-6 get to go play one more game on TV. But really, what is so terrible about that?

Too many for those who would like to think they mean anything.
I don't watch the vast majority of them.
Have fun in the Bahamas, it will be a nice trip for you and a few hundred fans. That's cool.
BUT if it is only an opportunity to play one more game (we all love one more game) then why not have it at the home of one of the teams and save the university a LOT of money. You would also get a lot more fans to the game. With all this said we are just giving our own opinions on here and mostly killing time till next year.

[AppinVA]

Yes I agree on every point. There are just way too many bowls.

I think a lot of people agree with that. I guess I would just ask, too many for whom?

If you mean there are so many bowls that many of them have lost almost any semblance of prestige, then I'd agree. But who is hurt by them? Fans? If you don't like a bowl, don't watch it.

Players? Seems like for the most part, players enjoy going to even minor bowls, where they get to be treated like celebs for a few days and compete on ESPN (which, for schools like App, certainly is a big deal).

And while pundits and fans may roll their eyes at the Bahamas Bowl, you can't tell me a trip down there in late December/early January to watch App play wouldn't sound pretty good.

So yeah, new bowl games mean more kids who went 6-6 get to go play one more game on TV. But really, what is so terrible about that?

Too many for those who would like to think they mean anything.
I don't watch the vast majority of them.
Have fun in the Bahamas, it will be a nice trip for you and a few hundred fans. That's cool.
BUT if it is only an opportunity to play one more game (we all love one more game) then why not have it at the home of one of the teams and save the university a LOT of money. You would also get a lot more fans to the game. With all this said we are just giving our own opinions on here and mostly killing time till next year.

I'm sorrry, but every other one of your posts talks about money, or how little of it we have. If we are really as bad off as you seem to portray, perhaps we should think about boarding up the whole place.

[bcoach]

Yes I agree on every point. There are just way too many bowls.

I think a lot of people agree with that. I guess I would just ask, too many for whom?

If you mean there are so many bowls that many of them have lost almost any semblance of prestige, then I'd agree. But who is hurt by them? Fans? If you don't like a bowl, don't watch it.

Players? Seems like for the most part, players enjoy going to even minor bowls, where they get to be treated like celebs for a few days and compete on ESPN (which, for schools like App, certainly is a big deal).

And while pundits and fans may roll their eyes at the Bahamas Bowl, you can't tell me a trip down there in late December/early January to watch App play wouldn't sound pretty good.

So yeah, new bowl games mean more kids who went 6-6 get to go play one more game on TV. But really, what is so terrible about that?

Too many for those who would like to think they mean anything.
I don't watch the vast majority of them.
Have fun in the Bahamas, it will be a nice trip for you and a few hundred fans. That's cool.
BUT if it is only an opportunity to play one more game (we all love one more game) then why not have it at the home of one of the teams and save the university a LOT of money. You would also get a lot more fans to the game. With all this said we are just giving our own opinions on here and mostly killing time till next year.

I'm sorrry, but every other one of your posts talks about money, or how little of it we have. If we are really as bad off as you seem to portray, perhaps we should think about boarding up the whole place.

I understand your exaggeration to make a point. It just so happens that money was a small part of my point. I will continue though to mention money as very few seem to worry about it. I also have never said we have very little money. The fact is that we have a lot of money. Another fact though, is that we have more debt than income produced by the athletic department. I think we should live within our means. I know that is a dying philosophy in this country but I for one still believe in it.

[AppinVA]

I don't enttirely disagree, and it was a small point, though I do sense a pattern.

[bcoach]

I don't enttirely disagree, and it was a small point, though I do sense a pattern.

Guilty as charged

[AppinVA]

I don't enttirely disagree, and it was a small point, though I do sense a pattern.

Guilty as charged

As I say to my kids: Own it.

[bcoach]

I don't enttirely disagree, and it was a small point, though I do sense a pattern.

Guilty as charged

As I say to my kids: Own it.

I do believe me. Having kept my business open and bills paid, and on time, over the last 4 years of the (recovery?) you are not the first to notice that pattern.

[AppAttack]

Playing in a bowl also allows the guys to get in several more practices together and better prepare themselves for Spring ball and the following season.

[EastHallApp]

Too many for those who would like to think they mean anything.
I don't watch the vast majority of them.
Have fun in the Bahamas, it will be a nice trip for you and a few hundred fans. That's cool.
BUT if it is only an opportunity to play one more game (we all love one more game) then why not have it at the home of one of the teams and save the university a LOT of money. You would also get a lot more fans to the game. With all this said we are just giving our own opinions on here and mostly killing time till next year.

Eh, the only bowl game that has ever really meant something is the national championship. The rest are glorified exhibitions, with varying amounts of money and prestige attached.

I don't watch most of them either. I'm just not really bothered by their existence.

As far as the money, if a school thinks they'll lose money by going to a bowl, no one is forcing them to go. So perhaps they consider it an investment.