Five Greatest Apps?

[AppStateNews]

Moore gained 1400 yards in 2009, and if Brian Quick had made the catch on the goal line, we would have beaten a very good Montana team, IN Montana, and been playing for another NC. Without Satterfield. You think Satterfield would have taken the ball out of AE's hands on the goal line?

The committee gets a lot of well-deserved criticism but I don't think it's fair to say they took the ball out of AE's hands. Hard to say what Coach Satterfield would have done but I'd have been surprised if it was a keeper with no option to pass. The ball was in AE's hands, he made the decision to pass and we missed another trip to Chattanooga by about an inch and a half. Tough break but I don't think it was a bad play call.

We also have to remember that AE was hobbled. He didn't have the leg power to do his famous superman jump over the line. I think it was as good of a play call as we could have had -- it worked. BQ was wide open -- just dropped the pass.

[bcoach]

I am going beyond football to overall sports:

Armanti Edwards, football

Emmanuel Udogu, men's soccer

Darrell Robinson, men's basketball

Dexter Coakley, football

Valerie Whiteside, women's basketball

I spent a little time with Darrell about a year ago. I had not seen him in 4-5 years. If he could be better at something than playing it would be coaching, and if better than that it would be as a father. If you want to talk about a number one class act it is Darrell Robinson. I saw Coach Robinson at least 4 times a week for 4 years and probably a time or two a week for another 3-4 years. In all that time I gained more respect for him as the days went on.

[AppStateNews]

I spent a little time with Darrell about a year ago. I had not seen him in 4-5 years. If he could be better at something than playing it would be coaching, and if better than that it would be as a father. If you want to talk about a number one class act it is Darrell Robinson. I saw Coach Robinson at least 4 times a week for 4 years and probably a time or two a week for another 3-4 years. In all that time I gained more respect for him as the days went on.

If I remember correctly, Darryl is the reason DJ Thompson came to play at App. He had offers to bigger schools, but chose App because of Coach Robinson.

In my opinion, DJ Thompson is the best PG in recent years we have had. Donald Sims might have had better numbers statistically, but DJ was a much better defender, much better with the ball, a much smarter player, better leader, and a better true PG. This isn't a knock on Sims, but he was basically a two guard having to play PG.

[Kgfish]

A lot of our younger alumni don't know much about the early years, which is a shame, but here are a few others to consider. Gil Beck received AA votes when App played at the same level of the big boys. Robbie Price led the Apps to it's first ever win over an ACC school WF and shocked South Carolina a few weeks later. Rick Beasley was one of the top receivers in the country - again while we were at the highest level. Quinton McKinney was one of the most feared DB's in the Southeast back in the mid 70's. Larry Hand should absolutely be in the top 5. Two-time NAIA All-American (when there were half the D-I teams as today), drafted in the tenth round of the 1964 as a junior and played 13 seasons with the Lions mostly as a starter.

So who do you remove for Hand?

Willaims, Hacket, or Settle... Edwards and Coakley are #1 and #2 without question.

Have to replace Williams with Hand. Richie gets a lot of affection for the first NC and the memory of him limping down the field leading his team to a TD. Unfortunately the facts are he didn't start until his Jr season and made some serious errors in that 'led to the 04 loss at Western. He wasn't very good at running the option and didn't make an impact until his Sr season. Hand was a lot like Dexter with four years of being the best App player on defense. Plus the Pro career is hard to ignore.

[GlassOnion]

I watched RW throw 28 straight completions against Furman in 2004, putting the team on his back. He was a joy to watch. Not to mention, Williams WAS the offense in 2004. Atwater had a grand total of 450 yards rushing, and Williams accounted for nearly 3400 yards. Cant fault RW for the lack of defense and run game.

[Longrifle28]

"I watched RW throw 28 straight completions against Furman in 2004, putting the team on his back. He was a joy to watch. Not to mention, Williams WAS the offense in 2004. Atwater had a grand total of 450 yards rushing, and Williams accounted for nearly 3400 yards. Cant fault RW for the lack of defense and run game."

This. Plus he went 40 of 45 passing in that game also. In 2004 we had a poor defense also.

[CCCCAPP]

What about Joe Parker, Playboy All American before ASU went to Div. I-AA?

[AppinVA]

Atwater.

Have we had an Atwaterjack on YC?

You sure he didn't gain just 420 yards on the grass?

[asutrnr81]

Larry Hand
Gil Beck
Dexter Coakley
Armanti Edwards
John Settle


HM
Rick Beasley
Mark French
Bryan Quick
Dino Hackett
Daniel Kilgore

[Kgfish]

I watched RW throw 28 straight completions against Furman in 2004, putting the team on his back. He was a joy to watch. Not to mention, Williams WAS the offense in 2004. Atwater had a grand total of 450 yards rushing, and Williams accounted for nearly 3400 yards. Cant fault RW for the lack of defense and run game.

Not discounting anything RW did but the topic is the Five Greatest Apps. IMO that encompasses an entire career not a few memorable games.

[Kgfish]

Anyone remember Michael Peterson's back flips after catching a TD?

[Kgfish]

Larry Hand
Gil Beck
Dexter Coakley
Armanti Edwards
John Settle


HM
Rick Beasley
Mark French
Bryan Quick
Dino Hackett
Daniel Kilgore

I like the way you think! My only change would be Bjorn Nittmo in place of Mark French.

[asutrnr81]

Larry Hand
Gil Beck
Dexter Coakley
Armanti Edwards
John Settle


HM
Rick Beasley
Mark French
Bryan Quick
Dino Hackett
Daniel Kilgore

I like the way you think! My only change would be Bjorn Nittmo in place of Mark French.

And I could live with that! I just could not find the correct spelling of Nittmo....and I knew French!...plus Mark kept us from being shut out in several games!

[Black Saturday]

Still think KR i's over rated by some. If I could pick Richardson or Miller to have back next year, it'd be Miller, and an easy decision.

Too bad there's not a thumb's down button for your post.

[TheMoody1]

Mark Royals spent 15 years in the NFL so he must have been pretty good.

[bcoach]

Mark Royals spent 15 years in the NFL so he must have been pretty good.

He was good. I did a little work on the sidelines with the Saints for a couple years when he was there and I always wore something with the block A on it in addition to the Saints stuff. The first time he spotted me he came up and talked. He was really glad to talk a little App State. Super nice guy.

[Yosef84]

A lot of our younger alumni don't know much about the early years, which is a shame, but here are a few others to consider. Gil Beck received AA votes when App played at the same level of the big boys. Robbie Price led the Apps to it's first ever win over an ACC school WF and shocked South Carolina a few weeks later. Rick Beasley was one of the top receivers in the country - again while we were at the highest level. Quinton McKinney was one of the most feared DB's in the Southeast back in the mid 70's. Larry Hand should absolutely be in the top 5. Two-time NAIA All-American (when there were half the D-I teams as today), drafted in the tenth round of the 1964 as a junior and played 13 seasons with the Lions mostly as a starter.

So who do you remove for Hand?

Willaims, Hacket, or Settle... Edwards and Coakley are #1 and #2 without question.

Have to replace Williams with Hand. Richie gets a lot of affection for the first NC and the memory of him limping down the field leading his team to a TD. Unfortunately the facts are he didn't start until his Jr season and made some serious errors in that 'led to the 04 loss at Western. He wasn't very good at running the option and didn't make an impact until his Sr season. Hand was a lot like Dexter with four years of being the best App player on defense. Plus the Pro career is hard to ignore.

I'm not sure whether Richie would rank in the top 5 all time list based on pure stats, but he brought the intangibles and the spark of leadership that finally ignited that 2005 team. Regarding the '04 loss to Western and UTC as well...my recollection was that those losses were squarely on the defense. Our freshmen corners couldn't stop a deep pass to save their lives and both of those teams had QB's capable of slinging the ball. Our offense in 04 was pretty strong. RW didn't run like AE, but I have to disagree about his ability to run the option.

The thing about any list like this is that everyone will have different names on it. If it were an absolute "factual" listing, this would be a 5 post thread, with a list followed by a bunch of "yeps".

We are truly blessed to have as many great names in our history.

[firemoose]

A lot of our younger alumni don't know much about the early years, which is a shame, but here are a few others to consider. Gil Beck received AA votes when App played at the same level of the big boys. Robbie Price led the Apps to it's first ever win over an ACC school WF and shocked South Carolina a few weeks later. Rick Beasley was one of the top receivers in the country - again while we were at the highest level. Quinton McKinney was one of the most feared DB's in the Southeast back in the mid 70's. Larry Hand should absolutely be in the top 5. Two-time NAIA All-American (when there were half the D-I teams as today), drafted in the tenth round of the 1964 as a junior and played 13 seasons with the Lions mostly as a starter.

So who do you remove for Hand?

Willaims, Hacket, or Settle... Edwards and Coakley are #1 and #2 without question.

Have to replace Williams with Hand. Richie gets a lot of affection for the first NC and the memory of him limping down the field leading his team to a TD. Unfortunately the facts are he didn't start until his Jr season and made some serious errors in that 'led to the 04 loss at Western. He wasn't very good at running the option and didn't make an impact until his Sr season. Hand was a lot like Dexter with four years of being the best App player on defense. Plus the Pro career is hard to ignore.

I'm not sure whether Richie would rank in the top 5 all time list based on pure stats, but he brought the intangibles and the spark of leadership that finally ignited that 2005 team. Regarding the '04 loss to Western and UTC as well...my recollection was that those losses were squarely on the defense. Our freshmen corners couldn't stop a deep pass to save their lives and both of those teams had QB's capable of slinging the ball. Our offense in 04 was pretty strong. RW didn't run like AE, but I have to disagree about his ability to run the option.

The thing about any list like this is that everyone will have different names on it. If it were an absolute "factual" listing, this would be a 5 post thread, with a list followed by a bunch of "yeps".

We are truly blessed to have as many great names in our history.

BUT...BUT...BUT...according to most of the Go5 conferences App State has no marketability, brand name, brand recognition, tradition or anything else that would make App a good addition to their conferences. At least one finally decided we were worthy.

[JMappfan5]

Hard to argue these five: Coakley; Edwards; Settles; Hackett & Hand.

HM: OL: D. Graham; G. Beck; K. Brown; M. Isenhour; D.Kilgore
RB: K. Richardson; E. Hamilton; D. Scott
TE: D. Wilcox; S. Wilks; F. Leatherwood; D. Bettis
WR: B. Quick; D.Fowlkes; R. Beasley
QB: R. Williams; S. Brown; R. Price
ST: M. Royals; H. Alexander; B. Nittmo; D. Ford-return specialist
DL: M. Murrell; J. Hunter; A. Downs; A. Hall
LB: R. Mack; DJ Smith; P. Banks; J. Roman
DB: M. Stevens; C. Hall; C. Lynch; M. Legree

[eggers76]

Anyone remember Michael Peterson's back flips after catching a TD?

I do as I was in school at the time. There is a picture somewhere, maybe in an old Rhododendren, taken while he was upside down in the flip. I always thought it was pretty cool and not really showboating, though the years may have dulled my memory a bit. The Socon refs of today would go nuts on this.