ALWAYS (lack) ATTACK

[WataugaMan]

Fake or not, still poor Special Teams play.

[Cincy App]

According to what I remember Steve saying was that the punt wasn't set up as a fake punt - it was a terrible snap and the punter decided to make a run for it - we did have a guy right there who unfortunately missed the tackle ---

Our defender was blocked on the fake punt run. Given that UTC had a couple blockers in the area instead of downfield, I do believe that the fake punt play was intended. We had too many people fall back in all of their punt situations. I think UTC saw this on their first punt. They could have run successfully for a first down in punt formation anytime they wanted IMO.

[bcoach]

Here is what I know
1. We won a conference championship last year with a program that "had slid so badly over the last few years"
2. The OL does not call the plays.
3. Football games are entertainment. People buy tickets when they are entertained.

[WataugaMan]

Football games are entertainment. People buy tickets when they are entertained.

So, at this point under the Satterfield era let me ask:

[bcoach]

Football games are entertainment. People buy tickets when they are entertained.

So, at this point under the Satterfield era let me ask:

Oh how I wish he were not the visiting team!

[Saint3333]

Here is what I know
1. We won a conference championship last year with a program that "had slid so badly over the last few years"
2. The OL does not call the plays.
3. Football games are entertainment. People buy tickets when they are entertained.

I don't see Jackson , Price, Kimbrough, McCray, Blair, and Grier out there either. To say this team is the same as last year isn't accurate. We were able to replace Miller and Martin, but it took 3-4 games to do so.

Fans support there teams win or lose. Yesterday App had 19k fans.

[appbio91]

That's what I originally heard as well, however, the following quote appeared in today's WSJ:

"The Mountaineers, about to get the ball back with a touchdown lead, instead were left stunned when a high punt snap was converted into a first down by the Mocs. Coach Russ Huesman said that he had called for a fake punt. Regardless, punter Nick Pollard wound up snagging the errant snap that nearly sailed over his head and, with few options against a converging defender, found running room for a 17-yard gain."

Regardless, terrible Special Teams play.

Historically Huesman has taken credit for all his great coaching moves - accident or not

The punter never hesitated and the blocking was there, huge hole, it was I believe acalled play.

I am not going to read all the postings here because I am tired of rehashing our problem on the O line. I will say I saw two pretty good teams square off yesterday. We had more talent IMO and in fact were the better team. They had the more experinced coach who called two gutsy plays and they were executed perfectly. Add the pick six and we are toast.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

That's what I originally heard as well, however, the following quote appeared in today's WSJ:

"The Mountaineers, about to get the ball back with a touchdown lead, instead were left stunned when a high punt snap was converted into a first down by the Mocs. Coach Russ Huesman said that he had called for a fake punt. Regardless, punter Nick Pollard wound up snagging the errant snap that nearly sailed over his head and, with few options against a converging defender, found running room for a 17-yard gain."

Regardless, terrible Special Teams play.

Historically Huesman has taken credit for all his great coaching moves - accident or not

What coach doesn't?

[WVAPPeer]

Here is what I know
1. We won a conference championship last year with a program that "had slid so badly over the last few years"
2. The OL does not call the plays.
3. Football games are entertainment. People buy tickets when they are entertained.

I don't see Jackson , Price, Kimbrough, McCray, Blair, and Grier out there either. To say this team is the same as last year isn't accurate. We were able to replace Miller and Martin, but it took 3-4 games to do so.

Fans support there teams win or lose. Yesterday App had 19k fans.

True but don't discount fans like us who couldn't make the game but were watching on AppState TV - Fans aren't restricted to those in the seats -

[bcoach]

Here is what I know
1. We won a conference championship last year with a program that "had slid so badly over the last few years"
2. The OL does not call the plays.
3. Football games are entertainment. People buy tickets when they are entertained.

I don't see Jackson , Price, Kimbrough, McCray, Blair, and Grier out there either. To say this team is the same as last year isn't accurate. We were able to replace Miller and Martin, but it took 3-4 games to do so.

Fans support there teams win or lose. Yesterday App had 19k fans.

Read it again. I didn't say it was the same team. So your comment is not accurate and that is not like you at all. Attendance right now tells us nothing. Future ticket sales are what matters. Right now most tickets have been paid for. The last two games I had 4 extras for one and 5 extras for yesterday. Yes my crew was there these were extras. That was 9 tickets I couldn't give away. What I am saying is that people buy tickets to be entertained not to support anything. Support is donating to the Yosef club. Entertainment is buying tickets. The vast majority of fans yesterday already had paid for tickets. There was VERY little walk up business. Those of us trying to get rid of tickets were watching.

[bcoach]

Here is what I know
1. We won a conference championship last year with a program that "had slid so badly over the last few years"
2. The OL does not call the plays.
3. Football games are entertainment. People buy tickets when they are entertained.

I don't see Jackson , Price, Kimbrough, McCray, Blair, and Grier out there either. To say this team is the same as last year isn't accurate. We were able to replace Miller and Martin, but it took 3-4 games to do so.

Fans support there teams win or lose. Yesterday App had 19k fans.

True but don't discount fans like us who couldn't make the game but were watching on AppState TV - Fans aren't restricted to those in the seats -

Very, very true.

[hapapp]

That's what I originally heard as well, however, the following quote appeared in today's WSJ:

"The Mountaineers, about to get the ball back with a touchdown lead, instead were left stunned when a high punt snap was converted into a first down by the Mocs. Coach Russ Huesman said that he had called for a fake punt. Regardless, punter Nick Pollard wound up snagging the errant snap that nearly sailed over his head and, with few options against a converging defender, found running room for a 17-yard gain."

Regardless, terrible Special Teams play.

Historically Huesman has taken credit for all his great coaching moves - accident or not

Agreed. If, in fact, it was supposed to be a fake punt, they got really lucky considering the bad snap.

[WataugaMan]

Okay, they got lucky.

[asutrnr81]

Agreed, we continually fail in this area. Special Teams is definitely an area that needs more attention and focus, they're "killing" us!! Seems that for every positive play, there is another negative one (one step forward and two steps back). With UTC being noted for using a lot of trick plays in the past you would think we would have been better prepared for it.

According to what I remember Steve saying was that the punt wasn't set up as a fake punt - it was a terrible snap and the punter decided to make a run for it - we did have a guy right there who unfortunately missed the tackle ---

A review of the film clearly showed an ASU player getting clipped as the punter ran by!

[appst89]

Agreed, we continually fail in this area. Special Teams is definitely an area that needs more attention and focus, they're "killing" us!! Seems that for every positive play, there is another negative one (one step forward and two steps back). With UTC being noted for using a lot of trick plays in the past you would think we would have been better prepared for it.

According to what I remember Steve saying was that the punt wasn't set up as a fake punt - it was a terrible snap and the punter decided to make a run for it - we did have a guy right there who unfortunately missed the tackle ---

A review of the film clearly showed an ASU player getting clipped as the punter ran by!

Saw that from the stands. #41 from App got drilled in the back on the fake punt.

[ASUMountaineer]

This is simple guys:

- OL issues remain
- Inconsistent QB play
- Questionable play calling (we had to run at least 10 double screens)
- Giving up big plays in down-and-long situations

The amazing thing is that after all of that, we still left KBS feeling that we snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Given this season, that's not the worst thing. I did have a discussion with some guys on Saturday about the QB situation next season, and I'm not convinced Kam is the future. It has less to do with Kam's play, and more to do with Lamb's potential. We shall see, but I remain optimistic about the future (though not the immediate future between the hedges).

I will say this, I needed a pick-me-up last night so I started watching the Michigan game. Two things I picked up: 1) the play calling is nowhere near what it was then and 2) it's because our talent is nowhere near where it was then. This isn't saying that the team lacks talent, but the NC teams--and the 2007 team especially--were loaded throughout the 2-deep and we just don't have that currently. We struggle to separate the Satterfield of then to the Satterfield we see today, but it is not really a fair comparison.

[ASUMountaineer]

Here is what I know
1. We won a conference championship last year with a program that "had slid so badly over the last few years"
2. The OL does not call the plays.
3. Football games are entertainment. People buy tickets when they are entertained.

I don't see Jackson , Price, Kimbrough, McCray, Blair, and Grier out there either. To say this team is the same as last year isn't accurate. We were able to replace Miller and Martin, but it took 3-4 games to do so.

Fans support there teams win or lose. Yesterday App had 19k fans.

Read it again. I didn't say it was the same team. So your comment is not accurate and that is not like you at all. Attendance right now tells us nothing. Future ticket sales are what matters. Right now most tickets have been paid for. The last two games I had 4 extras for one and 5 extras for yesterday. Yes my crew was there these were extras. That was 9 tickets I couldn't give away. What I am saying is that people buy tickets to be entertained not to support anything. Support is donating to the Yosef club. Entertainment is buying tickets. The vast majority of fans yesterday already had paid for tickets. There was VERY little walk up business. Those of us trying to get rid of tickets were watching.

You're right about that. But, I will say this--win or lose, I wouldn't trade a fall Saturday in Boone for anything.

My grandfather (dad's father) passed away on October 23rd. Saturday, my wife volunteered to stay home so I could take my dad to the game--just the two of us (I had to miss Black Saturday due to my grandfather's passing). With the weather ranging from sun-and-chill to sun-and-sleet, we had the best weather that Boone could offer. The hospitality of Big C for lunch was fantastic, and seeing my dad have a great time made me care a little less that we hung an "L." He was happy for the first time in two weeks, and I'm thankful that App State continues to provide me and mine great memories. Those that stay at home when we are losing are missing out on great times and memories. The entertainment is there, they just have to embrace it.

[eggers76]

Great post and pic ASUMountaineer. I am sorry for your's and your Dad's loss. God Bless you!

Any day I can spend in Boone, especially with 19000+ of my best friends is a great day!

[bcoach]

Here is what I know
1. We won a conference championship last year with a program that "had slid so badly over the last few years"
2. The OL does not call the plays.
3. Football games are entertainment. People buy tickets when they are entertained.

I don't see Jackson , Price, Kimbrough, McCray, Blair, and Grier out there either. To say this team is the same as last year isn't accurate. We were able to replace Miller and Martin, but it took 3-4 games to do so.

Fans support there teams win or lose. Yesterday App had 19k fans.

Read it again. I didn't say it was the same team. So your comment is not accurate and that is not like you at all. Attendance right now tells us nothing. Future ticket sales are what matters. Right now most tickets have been paid for. The last two games I had 4 extras for one and 5 extras for yesterday. Yes my crew was there these were extras. That was 9 tickets I couldn't give away. What I am saying is that people buy tickets to be entertained not to support anything. Support is donating to the Yosef club. Entertainment is buying tickets. The vast majority of fans yesterday already had paid for tickets. There was VERY little walk up business. Those of us trying to get rid of tickets were watching.

You're right about that. But, I will say this--win or lose, I wouldn't trade a fall Saturday in Boone for anything.

My grandfather (dad's father) passed away on October 23rd. Saturday, my wife volunteered to stay home so I could take my dad to the game--just the two of us (I had to miss Black Saturday due to my grandfather's passing). With the weather ranging from sun-and-chill to sun-and-sleet, we had the best weather that Boone could offer. The hospitality of Big C for lunch was fantastic, and seeing my dad have a great time made me care a little less that we hung an "L." He was happy for the first time in two weeks, and I'm thankful that App State continues to provide me and mine great memories. Those that stay at home when we are losing are missing out on great times and memories. The entertainment is there, they just have to embrace it.

I agree fully. I missed my first game last year and I hated it. It is not the 12,000 of us who will probably always be there in spite of any record. It is the other 10-15 thousand that need to be entertained.
Next time I have extras I'll let you know so your Dad and Wife can come. It will be on me.

[MAD Doctor]

ASUMountaineer,
Thanks for the fresh dose of perspective on a Monday morning, and I'm sorry for the loss of your granddad. While we'd all love to win every game, I'll take a crisp Fall Saturday in Boone with my family and APP family anytime. Wins and losses, highs and lows will come and go, and we will have our time back on top; but we have something very special here, even now. And as the saying goes, "If you're lucky enough to be a mountaineer, you're lucky enough."

GO APP!!!