Another day, another suspension...

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Re: Another day, another suspension...

Unread post by bcoach » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:16 pm

I hope we can someday get off the last staff VS this staff thing. The last staff did a lot of good things for an awful lot of players. They also made some mistakes. I am confident that this staff and future staffs will do good things and also make some mistakes. I am very sure that no staff has ever wanted bad apples. Let's be happy that it is being taken care of because there WILL be problems again in the future.

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Re: Another day, another suspension...

Unread post by AppState89 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:09 pm

StorminASU wrote:
AppState89 wrote:according to the police report. Gray was then charged with assault on a female and brought before Watauga County Magistrate David Gales and submitted a written promise to appear in court Jan. 21.

OK>...something really strange is going on here....In my 24yrs, I have NEVER heard of a written promise to appear on an assault on a female charge????? There is ALWAYS at least a 48hr period in jail before the person can get out....... Hmmmmmm
In your 24 years of what? Practicing law or being alive? If it's being alive, do you practice law somehow like the legal Doogie Howser? Again, if it is 24 years of age, how do you have any familiarity with the legal process here?
24 years being a Probation/Parole Officer, also working with the domestic violence task force along with the violent crime and gang task force. I supervise these DV cases. I should have said as much when I posted it. Sorry I didn't make that clear on my post.
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Re: Another day, another suspension...

Unread post by JCline0429 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:11 pm

bcoach wrote:
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bcoach wrote:What these guys need is an appointment with a girls big brother or father. What they get from the system rarely results in them not doing it again. I would also say that sometimes you can spot these problems while recruiting but many time you can't. this will not be the last one we have but dealing with it quickly as has been done here will go a long way to controlling it.
How would you spot this type inclination while recruiting? The prep coaches would have to inform the recruiter of the players' propensities and that is unlikely even if the high school coaches even know.
High school coaches know a lot more than you seem to think. When you have a tight relationship with them you can get tipoffs. You can look at social media and get tips and you can spot things in an interview. Talk to people. You will also notice that I said many times you can't. If you will notice over the years the percentage of bad apples we have had is very low. I am sure all coaches want it to be even lower.
Points well taken, but I still disagree to some extent. I just know that when colleges recruited at the high schools I was associated with, the coaches seldom went into character issues.
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Re: Another day, another suspension...

Unread post by brownbs » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:48 pm

Cant say much about what happened, just really glad that I decided not to purchase Gray's always attack jersey from the football office,I had considered it since he had shown a great deal of promise on the field. Hope he can learn from this and not let it happen again in the future.

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Re: Another day, another suspension...

Unread post by JCline0429 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:05 pm

StorminASU wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:Anybody want to bet against this incident getting national media attention?
Yeah, I'll bet against it.
The incidents of sexual assaults last year by the three football players received mention in national outlets. I didn't mean to imply that it would make the NY Times or the like. ;)
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Re: Another day, another suspension...

Unread post by HappyHippie » Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:11 pm

brownbs wrote:Cant say much about what happened, just really glad that I decided not to purchase Gray's always attack jersey from the football office,I had considered it since he had shown a great deal of promise on the field. Hope he can learn from this and not let it happen again in the future.

If what it said is true, he should have to fight off lifers for his sweet a$$.

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Re: Another day, another suspension...

Unread post by bcoach » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:58 am

JCline0429 wrote:
bcoach wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
bcoach wrote:What these guys need is an appointment with a girls big brother or father. What they get from the system rarely results in them not doing it again. I would also say that sometimes you can spot these problems while recruiting but many time you can't. this will not be the last one we have but dealing with it quickly as has been done here will go a long way to controlling it.
How would you spot this type inclination while recruiting? The prep coaches would have to inform the recruiter of the players' propensities and that is unlikely even if the high school coaches even know.
High school coaches know a lot more than you seem to think. When you have a tight relationship with them you can get tipoffs. You can look at social media and get tips and you can spot things in an interview. Talk to people. You will also notice that I said many times you can't. If you will notice over the years the percentage of bad apples we have had is very low. I am sure all coaches want it to be even lower.
Points well taken, but I still disagree to some extent. I just know that when colleges recruited at the high schools I was associated with, the coaches seldom went into character issues.
I guess that was the problem with the coaches that recruited at your school. Either they didn't have the relationship or didn't care. See I was talking about what you CAN do not what they all do. My knowledge of this is first hand.

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Re: Another day, another suspension...

Unread post by StorminASU » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:07 am

AppState89 wrote:
StorminASU wrote:
AppState89 wrote:according to the police report. Gray was then charged with assault on a female and brought before Watauga County Magistrate David Gales and submitted a written promise to appear in court Jan. 21.

OK>...something really strange is going on here....In my 24yrs, I have NEVER heard of a written promise to appear on an assault on a female charge????? There is ALWAYS at least a 48hr period in jail before the person can get out....... Hmmmmmm
In your 24 years of what? Practicing law or being alive? If it's being alive, do you practice law somehow like the legal Doogie Howser? Again, if it is 24 years of age, how do you have any familiarity with the legal process here?
24 years being a Probation/Parole Officer, also working with the domestic violence task force along with the violent crime and gang task force. I supervise these DV cases. I should have said as much when I posted it. Sorry I didn't make that clear on my post.
That's my fault, I was just assuming it was a 24 year old budding legal person wanting to stir the pot a little. I should have checked the Yosef's Cabin roster rundown on you, haha.

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Re: Another day, another suspension...

Unread post by Gonzo » Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:24 am

StorminASU wrote:
AppState89 wrote:
StorminASU wrote:
AppState89 wrote:according to the police report. Gray was then charged with assault on a female and brought before Watauga County Magistrate David Gales and submitted a written promise to appear in court Jan. 21.

OK>...something really strange is going on here....In my 24yrs, I have NEVER heard of a written promise to appear on an assault on a female charge????? There is ALWAYS at least a 48hr period in jail before the person can get out....... Hmmmmmm
In your 24 years of what? Practicing law or being alive? If it's being alive, do you practice law somehow like the legal Doogie Howser? Again, if it is 24 years of age, how do you have any familiarity with the legal process here?
24 years being a Probation/Parole Officer, also working with the domestic violence task force along with the violent crime and gang task force. I supervise these DV cases. I should have said as much when I posted it. Sorry I didn't make that clear on my post.
That's my fault, I was just assuming it was a 24 year old budding legal person wanting to stir the pot a little. I should have checked the Yosef's Cabin roster rundown on you, haha.
Because there is NO WAY a 24-year-old would know anything about the legal system. Impossible. :roll:

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Re: Another day, another suspension...

Unread post by ASU-FTW » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:40 pm

Rekdiver wrote: I don t care if he hit the girl with an open hand.....you don't hit women. For me this is at least a 1 year suspension from football anywhere and any school..
I agree, but women shouldn't hit men either, unless it is in self defense. And that goes both ways.

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Re: Another day, another suspension...

Unread post by AppState89 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:02 pm

StorminASU wrote:
AppState89 wrote:
StorminASU wrote:
AppState89 wrote:according to the police report. Gray was then charged with assault on a female and brought before Watauga County Magistrate David Gales and submitted a written promise to appear in court Jan. 21.

OK>...something really strange is going on here....In my 24yrs, I have NEVER heard of a written promise to appear on an assault on a female charge????? There is ALWAYS at least a 48hr period in jail before the person can get out....... Hmmmmmm
In your 24 years of what? Practicing law or being alive? If it's being alive, do you practice law somehow like the legal Doogie Howser? Again, if it is 24 years of age, how do you have any familiarity with the legal process here?
24 years being a Probation/Parole Officer, also working with the domestic violence task force along with the violent crime and gang task force. I supervise these DV cases. I should have said as much when I posted it. Sorry I didn't make that clear on my post.
That's my fault, I was just assuming it was a 24 year old budding legal person wanting to stir the pot a little. I should have checked the Yosef's Cabin roster rundown on you, haha.
No problem. I should have made myself clear first. I just assume that most on here know what I do. Guess I shouldn't assume.
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