Marshall..?

[appgrad95&97]

We let Capel finish his contract. Clark will finish the season. We aren't the school of buyouts. This is why a part of me wouldn't be surprised if he coached next season. If we continue the meteoric downfall then he will have to be gone come January, but if he manages 5-6 wins I could see them letting him finish the contract.

You could very well be right and if so will start the beginning of the end of sellouts. Better be careful with a loyal fan base.

Not very "loyal" if that is the case. If the decision is to keep coaching (not advocating one way or the other) through next year to finish out contract....and many fans abandon the program...the term should not be termed "loyal" fans as they were not to begin with...

Time and money are finite. People get to choose how to use both.

And my statement still stands. We have not been in a 10 year losing season drought....

Your statement stands 100%. My point is only that people have choices and one takes that for granted at their peril.

[Saint3333]

Loyalty in college athletics is inversely correlated to the revenue generated for all those involved.

[Stonewall]

The budget today and going forward is predicated on selling out the stadium.

[Pikapp79]

We let Capel finish his contract. Clark will finish the season. We aren't the school of buyouts. This is why a part of me wouldn't be surprised if he coached next season. If we continue the meteoric downfall then he will have to be gone come January, but if he manages 5-6 wins I could see them letting him finish the contract.

You could very well be right and if so will start the beginning of the end of sellouts. Better be careful with a loyal fan base.

Not very "loyal" if that is the case. If the decision is to keep coaching (not advocating one way or the other) through next year to finish out contract....and many fans abandon the program...the term should not be termed "loyal" fans as they were not to begin with...

Average fans aren’t driving up the mountain to witness one butt whooping after another. Students aren’t either as they leave at halftime.

[DenverOfTheEast]

New Chancellor timing will have something to do with buyout,,,, Gillin has to be anxious right very now. His tail is on the line with this one.

[NewApp]

New Chancellor timing will have something to do with buyout,,,, Gillin has to be anxious right very now. His tail is on the line with this one.

The AD is often the last to be canned when one sport sucks.

[DenverOfTheEast]

You better have a strong list with some silent 'yes' behind the scene if this goes down.

Going to be 3/4 jobs open in the Carolinas alone for football.

The natural disaster and lack of NIL will NOT make this an attractive opening this cycle, the fan base will be viewed as crazy and unrealistic by potential coaches.

In 2019 Dwayne Ledford turned the job down and maybe someone else, another person didn't pan out with the back ground check and Gillin had to come back to the list and got lucky with Drink.

This will be a fascinating hire all things considering.

[BambooRdApp]

We let Capel finish his contract. Clark will finish the season. We aren't the school of buyouts. This is why a part of me wouldn't be surprised if he coached next season. If we continue the meteoric downfall then he will have to be gone come January, but if he manages 5-6 wins I could see them letting him finish the contract.

You could very well be right and if so will start the beginning of the end of sellouts. Better be careful with a loyal fan base.

Not very "loyal" if that is the case. If the decision is to keep coaching (not advocating one way or the other) through next year to finish out contract....and many fans abandon the program...the term should not be termed "loyal" fans as they were not to begin with...

Average fans aren’t driving up the mountain to witness one butt whooping after another. Students aren’t either as they leave at halftime.

Bahahaha

[AppStFan1]

You better have a strong list with some silent 'yes' behind the scene if this goes down.

Going to be 3/4 jobs open in the Carolinas alone for football.

The natural disaster and lack of NIL will NOT make this an attractive opening this cycle, the fan base will be viewed as crazy and unrealistic by potential coaches.

In 2019 Dwayne Ledford turned the job down and maybe someone else, another person didn't pan out with the back ground check and Gillin had to come back to the list and got lucky with Drink.

This will be a fascinating hire all things considering.

There are quality FCS head coaches out there who would jump at it. I really hope Shawn turns it around and wins out but I just don’t have faith because of our defensive staff.

[Pikapp79]

We let Capel finish his contract. Clark will finish the season. We aren't the school of buyouts. This is why a part of me wouldn't be surprised if he coached next season. If we continue the meteoric downfall then he will have to be gone come January, but if he manages 5-6 wins I could see them letting him finish the contract.

You could very well be right and if so will start the beginning of the end of sellouts. Better be careful with a loyal fan base.

Not very "loyal" if that is the case. If the decision is to keep coaching (not advocating one way or the other) through next year to finish out contract....and many fans abandon the program...the term should not be termed "loyal" fans as they were not to begin with...

Average fans aren’t driving up the mountain to witness one butt whooping after another. Students aren’t either as they leave at halftime.

Bahahaha

You disagree or just want to whine?

[BambooRdApp]

You could very well be right and if so will start the beginning of the end of sellouts. Better be careful with a loyal fan base.

Not very "loyal" if that is the case. If the decision is to keep coaching (not advocating one way or the other) through next year to finish out contract....and many fans abandon the program...the term should not be termed "loyal" fans as they were not to begin with...

Average fans aren’t driving up the mountain to witness one butt whooping after another. Students aren’t either as they leave at halftime.

Bahahaha

You disagree or just want to whine?

Your the one whining about losing fans....I disagree. A decision will be made about Clark at the appropriate point in time based on the body of his work...

[MrCraig]

You better have a strong list with some silent 'yes' behind the scene if this goes down.

Going to be 3/4 jobs open in the Carolinas alone for football.

The natural disaster and lack of NIL will NOT make this an attractive opening this cycle, the fan base will be viewed as crazy and unrealistic by potential coaches.

In 2019 Dwayne Ledford turned the job down and maybe someone else, another person didn't pan out with the back ground check and Gillin had to come back to the list and got lucky with Drink.

This will be a fascinating hire all things considering.

Ah yes, because unrealistic expectations by fans has ever stopped a coach from taking a job. *looks at Florida, Texas, Texas A&M, GA Southern, Tennessee, LSU...*

[Stonewall]

We will have good options.

[DenverOfTheEast]

You better have a strong list with some silent 'yes' behind the scene if this goes down.

Going to be 3/4 jobs open in the Carolinas alone for football.

The natural disaster and lack of NIL will NOT make this an attractive opening this cycle, the fan base will be viewed as crazy and unrealistic by potential coaches.

In 2019 Dwayne Ledford turned the job down and maybe someone else, another person didn't pan out with the back ground check and Gillin had to come back to the list and got lucky with Drink.

This will be a fascinating hire all things considering.

Ah yes, because unrealistic expectations by fans has ever stopped a coach from taking a job. *looks at Florida, Texas, Texas A&M, GA Southern, Tennessee, LSU...*

the position isn't as coveted as the fans think it is... salary? NIL? Admissions? bottom 3rd in all 3 categories in the Sun Belt Mr Craig

[Bootsy]

Maybe we see a change in December. As has been mentioned previously in the Cabin, one of the biggest wildcards in all of this is what happens with the Chancellor search. If Norris gets the nod, this isn't as much of a wildcard. If not, does a new leader really want to come in and have this unpleasantness as the first thing on their plate right after being hired?

No easy answers.

[MrCraig]

You better have a strong list with some silent 'yes' behind the scene if this goes down.

Going to be 3/4 jobs open in the Carolinas alone for football.

The natural disaster and lack of NIL will NOT make this an attractive opening this cycle, the fan base will be viewed as crazy and unrealistic by potential coaches.

In 2019 Dwayne Ledford turned the job down and maybe someone else, another person didn't pan out with the back ground check and Gillin had to come back to the list and got lucky with Drink.

This will be a fascinating hire all things considering.

Ah yes, because unrealistic expectations by fans has ever stopped a coach from taking a job. *looks at Florida, Texas, Texas A&M, GA Southern, Tennessee, LSU...*

the position isn't as coveted as the fans think it is... salary? NIL? Admissions? bottom 3rd in all 3 categories in the Sun Belt Mr Craig

It may not be a Class A job, but you're a fool if you don't think there are plenty of FCS head coaches, P4 coordinators, or former coaches looking to make a come back who wouldn't love an opportunity to coach at App. Shoot, I'll do it if it's really as bad as you make it sound.

[BambooRdApp]

You better have a strong list with some silent 'yes' behind the scene if this goes down.

Going to be 3/4 jobs open in the Carolinas alone for football.

The natural disaster and lack of NIL will NOT make this an attractive opening this cycle, the fan base will be viewed as crazy and unrealistic by potential coaches.

In 2019 Dwayne Ledford turned the job down and maybe someone else, another person didn't pan out with the back ground check and Gillin had to come back to the list and got lucky with Drink.

This will be a fascinating hire all things considering.

Ah yes, because unrealistic expectations by fans has ever stopped a coach from taking a job. *looks at Florida, Texas, Texas A&M, GA Southern, Tennessee, LSU...*

the position isn't as coveted as the fans think it is... salary? NIL? Admissions? bottom 3rd in all 3 categories in the Sun Belt Mr Craig

It may not be a Class A job, but you're a fool if you don't think there are plenty of FCS head coaches, P4 coordinators, or former coaches looking to make a come back who wouldn't love an opportunity to coach at App. Shoot, I'll do it if it's really as bad as you make it sound.

Hurts to hear ..but DOTE is correct..we need our salaries to be significantly higher and NIL to be significantly higher...it is what it is.

[appgrad95&97]

You better have a strong list with some silent 'yes' behind the scene if this goes down.

Going to be 3/4 jobs open in the Carolinas alone for football.

The natural disaster and lack of NIL will NOT make this an attractive opening this cycle, the fan base will be viewed as crazy and unrealistic by potential coaches.

In 2019 Dwayne Ledford turned the job down and maybe someone else, another person didn't pan out with the back ground check and Gillin had to come back to the list and got lucky with Drink.

This will be a fascinating hire all things considering.

Ah yes, because unrealistic expectations by fans has ever stopped a coach from taking a job. *looks at Florida, Texas, Texas A&M, GA Southern, Tennessee, LSU...*

the position isn't as coveted as the fans think it is... salary? NIL? Admissions? bottom 3rd in all 3 categories in the Sun Belt Mr Craig

It may not be a Class A job, but you're a fool if you don't think there are plenty of FCS head coaches, P4 coordinators, or former coaches looking to make a come back who wouldn't love an opportunity to coach at App. Shoot, I'll do it if it's really as bad as you make it sound.

Hurts to hear ..but DOTE is correct..we need our salaries to be significantly higher and NIL to be significantly higher...it is what it is.

I agree. But where do we start? What do we prioritize?

[DenverOfTheEast]

You better have a strong list with some silent 'yes' behind the scene if this goes down.

Going to be 3/4 jobs open in the Carolinas alone for football.

The natural disaster and lack of NIL will NOT make this an attractive opening this cycle, the fan base will be viewed as crazy and unrealistic by potential coaches.

In 2019 Dwayne Ledford turned the job down and maybe someone else, another person didn't pan out with the back ground check and Gillin had to come back to the list and got lucky with Drink.

This will be a fascinating hire all things considering.

Ah yes, because unrealistic expectations by fans has ever stopped a coach from taking a job. *looks at Florida, Texas, Texas A&M, GA Southern, Tennessee, LSU...*

the position isn't as coveted as the fans think it is... salary? NIL? Admissions? bottom 3rd in all 3 categories in the Sun Belt Mr Craig

It may not be a Class A job, but you're a fool if you don't think there are plenty of FCS head coaches, P4 coordinators, or former coaches looking to make a come back who wouldn't love an opportunity to coach at App. Shoot, I'll do it if it's really as bad as you make it sound.

You agreed with me by saying it's not a CLASS A job... Thanks!

Let's hire MR CRAIG !!!

Sure a lot will just LOVEEEEEE the opportunity but that's not what you're looking for in the hiring process. You need a well rounded FIT.

[311neers]

Clark was coaching for his job against Liberty, the game wasn't played so it punted to Marshall.
He lost big, again.
It is addition by subtraction time best said by Andy Bernard in "The Office". He can't keep coaching for his job every week, it's not healthy and he doesn't deserve it, but that's where we are. Don't let a false hope win soon keep him around for 1.5 more years like the wins of A&M, ULM Michael Hughes 59 yarder and others did.
Muschamp was horrible at USCjr but got lucky and beat a great Georgia team on a fluke win. That game alone kept him in Columbia for another year even though they were a bad team. Let's not fall in the false hope trap anymore. It doesn't take 5 years to know what you have in a coach or a job.