Mike O'Cain In The Running??

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Mike O'Cain In The Running??

Unread post by wilsonappman » Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:32 am

File this in the take it for what it's worth column but last night Jeff Gravley, who is the sports director at WRAL News in Raleigh, tweeted "Do not be surprised to see Mike O'Cain's name emerge in the Appalachian State coaching search". I do know this.....Jeff has never been one to just throw out rumors so he must have a source he trusts giving him this info.

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Re: Mike O'Cain In The Running??

Unread post by bcoach » Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:49 am

Has done a good job at VT (remember?) as qb coach.
He was 41-40 at NC State, not sure we could live with that. I think we could do better.

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Re: Mike O'Cain In The Running??

Unread post by kgblade » Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:50 am

This is a clear sign that a coach who has experience and contacts with FBS schools is weighing heavily on our search.

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Re: Mike O'Cain In The Running??

Unread post by AppinVA » Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:53 am

If we're going after retreads from North Carolina universities, I'd like to see about Steve Logan. Worth a look.
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Re: Mike O'Cain In The Running??

Unread post by ASUPATCH » Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:44 am

He is not only the QB coach but the play caller as well. There is alot of heat on Beamer to can him as Thomas regressed this year and they feel the offense is to blame for VT's 6-6 season.
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Re: Mike O'Cain In The Running??

Unread post by moehler » Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:31 am

not a fan of O'Cain, kinda of jouneyman coach,who had his shot with State and blew it, now, he kinda bouncing around, hoping some else will give him another shot at HC. I hope we are not foolish enough to be that school.

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Re: Mike O'Cain In The Running??

Unread post by Yosef » Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:45 am

bcoach wrote:Has done a good job at VT (remember?) as qb coach.
He was 41-40 at NC State, not sure we could live with that. I think we could do better.
Yep - we should never look at someone who can't go more than break even at a BCS program. I mean hell - what if his record were worse - say 16-37? His name shouldn't even be mentioned.

Wait a minute - that was Jerry's record at Texas Tech before he came to App.

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Re: Mike O'Cain In The Running??

Unread post by BeauFoster » Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:48 am

moehler wrote:not a fan of O'Cain, kinda of jouneyman coach,who had his shot with State and blew it, now, he kinda bouncing around, hoping some else will give him another shot at HC. I hope we are not foolish enough to be that school.
I seem to recall that O'Cain wanted the Furman gig pretty hard a few years ago, but I could be wrong. He would certainly not be at the top of my list, but he does have a lot of experience in the area, which could help with recruiting.
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Re: Mike O'Cain In The Running??

Unread post by Rekdiver » Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:06 pm

We are not interested.

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Re: Mike O'Cain In The Running??

Unread post by eggers76 » Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:44 pm

No.

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Re: Mike O'Cain In The Running??

Unread post by bcoach » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:05 pm

Yosef wrote:
bcoach wrote:Has done a good job at VT (remember?) as qb coach.
He was 41-40 at NC State, not sure we could live with that. I think we could do better.
Yep - we should never look at someone who can't go more than break even at a BCS program. I mean hell - what if his record were worse - say 16-37? His name shouldn't even be mentioned.

Wait a minute - that was Jerry's record at Texas Tech before he came to App.
I understand but I think we are in a different position today than we were then. Hell we are bitching over 8-4

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Re: Mike O'Cain In The Running??

Unread post by wataugan03 » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:11 pm

If 41-40 isn't good enough then we aren't getting someone with FBS head coaching experience. O'Cain had a lot of winning seasons at NC State and some of the teams he's worked with have been pretty good too. If significant FBS experience and head coaching experience are important to Cobb, then he really can't do any better than O'Cain. Of course you could argue that those are not important criteria.

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Re: Mike O'Cain In The Running??

Unread post by Appersrule » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:43 pm

Exactly what we need, another NC State cast off.

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Re: Mike O'Cain In The Running??

Unread post by HighPointApp » Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:06 pm

bcoach wrote:
Yosef wrote:
bcoach wrote:Has done a good job at VT (remember?) as qb coach.
He was 41-40 at NC State, not sure we could live with that. I think we could do better.
Yep - we should never look at someone who can't go more than break even at a BCS program. I mean hell - what if his record were worse - say 16-37? His name shouldn't even be mentioned.

Wait a minute - that was Jerry's record at Texas Tech before he came to App.
I understand but I think we are in a different position today than we were then. Hell we are bitching over 8-4


I don't think we're bitching about 8-4. I would think more of inconsistency over the last 3 years when it comes to the playoffs. We were so young this year I was proud of how the guys played except for the Citadel game.
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Re: Mike O'Cain In The Running??

Unread post by bcoach » Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:37 pm

HighPointApp wrote:
bcoach wrote:
Yosef wrote:
bcoach wrote:Has done a good job at VT (remember?) as qb coach.
He was 41-40 at NC State, not sure we could live with that. I think we could do better.
Yep - we should never look at someone who can't go more than break even at a BCS program. I mean hell - what if his record were worse - say 16-37? His name shouldn't even be mentioned.

Wait a minute - that was Jerry's record at Texas Tech before he came to App.
I understand but I think we are in a different position today than we were then. Hell we are bitching over 8-4


I don't think we're bitching about 8-4. I would think more of inconsistency over the last 3 years when it comes to the playoffs. We were so young this year I was proud of how the guys played except for the Citadel game.
Seems I have heard many, many times that we have been out in the first round and that makes us 8-4. I agree that we did much better than expected with a very young line but I am going to tell you if we go .500 this site will go up in flames and that coach will need a bodyguard.

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Re: Mike O'Cain In The Running??

Unread post by Longrifle28 » Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:22 pm

wataugan03 wrote:If 41-40 isn't good enough then we aren't getting someone with FBS head coaching experience. O'Cain had a lot of winning seasons at NC State and some of the teams he's worked with have been pretty good too. If significant FBS experience and head coaching experience are important to Cobb, then he really can't do any better than O'Cain. Of course you could argue that those are not important criteria.
At seven seasons at ncsu he had 4 winning seasons, never won the acc, only went to 3 bowl games and only won one of them. He was not popular at ncsu. I say NO.
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Re: Mike O'Cain In The Running??

Unread post by Appersrule » Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:24 pm

He also never beat UNC.

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Re: Mike O'Cain In The Running??

Unread post by Rekdiver » Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:49 pm

That would not be an issue because the Tar Holes won't play us. Still not interested in him.

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Re: Mike O'Cain In The Running??

Unread post by AppState89 » Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:05 am

NO!!!!!! Not O'Cain.....
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Re: Mike O'Cain In The Running??

Unread post by wataugan03 » Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:02 pm

Longrifle28 wrote:
wataugan03 wrote:If 41-40 isn't good enough then we aren't getting someone with FBS head coaching experience. O'Cain had a lot of winning seasons at NC State and some of the teams he's worked with have been pretty good too. If significant FBS experience and head coaching experience are important to Cobb, then he really can't do any better than O'Cain. Of course you could argue that those are not important criteria.
At seven seasons at ncsu he had 4 winning seasons, never won the acc, only went to 3 bowl games and only won one of them. He was not popular at ncsu. I say NO.
I'm not saying you or anyone else should say yes. I'm just saying that if we're against O'Cain for the reasons you mentioned then it means we are against any former head coach of a power-conference school who would consider taking our job. It means we're talking about taking someone without head coaching experience . . . or maybe poaching a head coach from a smaller institution.

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