File this in the take it for what it's worth column but last night Jeff Gravley, who is the sports director at WRAL News in Raleigh, tweeted "Do not be surprised to see Mike O'Cain's name emerge in the Appalachian State coaching search". I do know this.....Jeff has never been one to just throw out rumors so he must have a source he trusts giving him this info.

Has done a good job at VT (remember?) as qb coach.
He was 41-40 at NC State, not sure we could live with that. I think we could do better.

This is a clear sign that a coach who has experience and contacts with FBS schools is weighing heavily on our search.

If we're going after retreads from North Carolina universities, I'd like to see about Steve Logan. Worth a look.

He is not only the QB coach but the play caller as well. There is alot of heat on Beamer to can him as Thomas regressed this year and they feel the offense is to blame for VT's 6-6 season.

not a fan of O'Cain, kinda of jouneyman coach,who had his shot with State and blew it, now, he kinda bouncing around, hoping some else will give him another shot at HC. I hope we are not foolish enough to be that school.

bcoach wrote:Has done a good job at VT (remember?) as qb coach.
He was 41-40 at NC State, not sure we could live with that. I think we could do better.

Yep - we should never look at someone who can't go more than break even at a BCS program. I mean hell - what if his record were worse - say 16-37? His name shouldn't even be mentioned.

Wait a minute - that was Jerry's record at Texas Tech before he came to App.

moehler wrote:not a fan of O'Cain, kinda of jouneyman coach,who had his shot with State and blew it, now, he kinda bouncing around, hoping some else will give him another shot at HC. I hope we are not foolish enough to be that school.

I seem to recall that O'Cain wanted the Furman gig pretty hard a few years ago, but I could be wrong. He would certainly not be at the top of my list, but he does have a lot of experience in the area, which could help with recruiting.

We are not interested.

No.

Yosef wrote:

bcoach wrote:Has done a good job at VT (remember?) as qb coach.
He was 41-40 at NC State, not sure we could live with that. I think we could do better.

Yep - we should never look at someone who can't go more than break even at a BCS program. I mean hell - what if his record were worse - say 16-37? His name shouldn't even be mentioned.

Wait a minute - that was Jerry's record at Texas Tech before he came to App.

I understand but I think we are in a different position today than we were then. Hell we are bitching over 8-4

If 41-40 isn't good enough then we aren't getting someone with FBS head coaching experience. O'Cain had a lot of winning seasons at NC State and some of the teams he's worked with have been pretty good too. If significant FBS experience and head coaching experience are important to Cobb, then he really can't do any better than O'Cain. Of course you could argue that those are not important criteria.

Exactly what we need, another NC State cast off.

bcoach wrote:

Yosef wrote:

bcoach wrote:Has done a good job at VT (remember?) as qb coach.
He was 41-40 at NC State, not sure we could live with that. I think we could do better.

Yep - we should never look at someone who can't go more than break even at a BCS program. I mean hell - what if his record were worse - say 16-37? His name shouldn't even be mentioned.

Wait a minute - that was Jerry's record at Texas Tech before he came to App.

I understand but I think we are in a different position today than we were then. Hell we are bitching over 8-4

I don't think we're bitching about 8-4. I would think more of inconsistency over the last 3 years when it comes to the playoffs. We were so young this year I was proud of how the guys played except for the Citadel game.

HighPointApp wrote:

bcoach wrote:

Yosef wrote:

bcoach wrote:Has done a good job at VT (remember?) as qb coach.
He was 41-40 at NC State, not sure we could live with that. I think we could do better.

Yep - we should never look at someone who can't go more than break even at a BCS program. I mean hell - what if his record were worse - say 16-37? His name shouldn't even be mentioned.

Wait a minute - that was Jerry's record at Texas Tech before he came to App.

I understand but I think we are in a different position today than we were then. Hell we are bitching over 8-4

I don't think we're bitching about 8-4. I would think more of inconsistency over the last 3 years when it comes to the playoffs. We were so young this year I was proud of how the guys played except for the Citadel game.

Seems I have heard many, many times that we have been out in the first round and that makes us 8-4. I agree that we did much better than expected with a very young line but I am going to tell you if we go .500 this site will go up in flames and that coach will need a bodyguard.

wataugan03 wrote:If 41-40 isn't good enough then we aren't getting someone with FBS head coaching experience. O'Cain had a lot of winning seasons at NC State and some of the teams he's worked with have been pretty good too. If significant FBS experience and head coaching experience are important to Cobb, then he really can't do any better than O'Cain. Of course you could argue that those are not important criteria.

At seven seasons at ncsu he had 4 winning seasons, never won the acc, only went to 3 bowl games and only won one of them. He was not popular at ncsu. I say NO.

He also never beat UNC.

That would not be an issue because the Tar Holes won't play us. Still not interested in him.

NO!!!!!! Not O'Cain.....

Longrifle28 wrote:

wataugan03 wrote:If 41-40 isn't good enough then we aren't getting someone with FBS head coaching experience. O'Cain had a lot of winning seasons at NC State and some of the teams he's worked with have been pretty good too. If significant FBS experience and head coaching experience are important to Cobb, then he really can't do any better than O'Cain. Of course you could argue that those are not important criteria.

At seven seasons at ncsu he had 4 winning seasons, never won the acc, only went to 3 bowl games and only won one of them. He was not popular at ncsu. I say NO.

I'm not saying you or anyone else should say yes. I'm just saying that if we're against O'Cain for the reasons you mentioned then it means we are against any former head coach of a power-conference school who would consider taking our job. It means we're talking about taking someone without head coaching experience . . . or maybe poaching a head coach from a smaller institution.