Former Coach Moore and United Way

[JCline0429]

Letter to the Editor of Watauga Democrat:

Moore's motivation appreciated
My one encounter with Jerry Moore was at a recent High Country United Way donor meeting. Jerry is a campaign co-chairman this year. I was impressed with him both as a person and as a motivational speaker. Because of his inspiration, I decided to increase my United Way contribution this year. I can only guess at his positive impact on our Appalachian State University football players and all the others he came in contact with.

Jack James
Vilas


This was circa Dec 12, I think.

[GlassOnion]

Who cares?

[JCline0429]

Who cares?

Certainly not the anti-Moore crowd. Evidently the one who wrote the letter to the editor does.

[appst89]

Who cares?

Certainly not the anti-Moore crowd. Evidently the one who wrote the letter to the editor does.

Just curious, but does everyone who has a great deal of respect for Coach Moore's accomplishments and all that he has done for the community and for the young men he coached, but feels that he handled this situation poorly by trying to back the administration into a corner fall into your definition of the "anti-Moore" crowd?

[GlassOnion]

Who cares?

Certainly not the anti-Moore crowd. Evidently the one who wrote the letter to the editor does.

GOOD! And he got to see it in the paper! Bully for him! WTH is it doing here a month later?

[JCline0429]

Who cares?

Certainly not the anti-Moore crowd. Evidently the one who wrote the letter to the editor does.

Just curious, but does everyone who has a great deal of respect for Coach Moore's accomplishments and all that he has done for the community and for the young men he coached, but feels that he handled this situation poorly by trying to back the administration into a corner fall into your definition of the "anti-Moore" crowd?

I don't think anyone disputes Moore's handling the dismissal was in poor taste and detrimental to the University. But, I wonder what would have been wrong with waiting until Monday morning and having had a private three -person meeting with Jerry, the Chancellor, and the AD to formally inform Jerry of the final declaration? Of course it would have been legally unnecessary but it would have shown more class by all parties involved and possibly avoid JM's showing his butt in the media.How was Coach notified. Was it an e-mail, phone call, a leak to the press, or whatever? I don't recall anyone discussing that.
Does anyone on here know exactly how they would have reacted after being forced out of a high profile job after over two decades of success with the media hoping for a controversey?
My only criticism of Moore has been the off the field incidents in the past year. If Moore is ultimately to blame, then I think the position coaches should share the blame as they are the ones who should have the most contact with said players. I would bet a week's pay that the ones involved weren't any of the ones who attend the weekly optional bible study. Just a guess.
None of the coaches nor all of them combined can be mother and father to almost a hundred 20+ year olds 24/7/365.

[JCline0429]

Who cares?

Certainly not the anti-Moore crowd. Evidently the one who wrote the letter to the editor does.

GOOD! And he got to see it in the paper! Bully for him! WTH is it doing here a month later?

I believe his contract extends until June 30 unless he accepts a lump some buyout. Too, he will deservedly be able to accept pay for all unused sick leave, vacation leave, etc. But of course he will not have to be on the payroll to get that pay. But I believe he has to be actively on the job to receive the rest of his contract pay.

[JCline0429]

Who cares?

Certainly not the anti-Moore crowd. Evidently the one who wrote the letter to the editor does.

Just curious, but does everyone who has a great deal of respect for Coach Moore's accomplishments and all that he has done for the community and for the young men he coached, but feels that he handled this situation poorly by trying to back the administration into a corner fall into your definition of the "anti-Moore" crowd?

I think you basically know the ones who have been against Moore for the last several years no-matter what he did.
In fact, the Delphi board was composed intinitially primarily of by those who wanted to bring down the administration both university level and athletic department level along with Coach Moore. I was on the Delphi board as well as its predecessor.

[JCline0429]

Who cares?

Certainly not the anti-Moore crowd. Evidently the one who wrote the letter to the editor does.

GOOD! And he got to see it in the paper! Bully for him! WTH is it doing here a month later?

How classy is that? Certainly not Appalachian State classy.

[PBR1893-BEER-HAT-GUY]

Who cares?

Certainly not the anti-Moore crowd. Evidently the one who wrote the letter to the editor does.

GOOD! And he got to see it in the paper! Bully for him! WTH is it doing here a month later?

How classy is that? Certainly not Appalachian State classy.

you wont win when debating or even having a discussion with this guy jcline...you're better off finding the nearest hardwood tree and banging your head against it.

[appdaze]

Of course it would have been legally unnecessary but it would have shown more class by all parties involved and possibly avoid JM's showing his butt in the media.How was Coach notified. Was it an e-mail, phone call, a leak to the press, or whatever? I don't recall anyone discussing that.
I'm pretty sure that was discussed somewhere on here.
----He knew going in to this year that it was his last year. I've heard from too many people that are much much closer inside the program than I to not believe that he didn't know that this was going to be his last year. People who are in blue collar jobs are lucky to even get a phone call regardless if they have worked 5 years or 25. That pretty much goes for most business jobs. I'm pretty sure we all know some people who got a slip of paper and a finger to the door and that was it. I'm really tired of people putting athletes/coaches on god like pedestals. They are entertainers. Sports is entertainment yet those involved are hoisted, beyond logic, to the point of blind reverence.

Does anyone on here know exactly how they would have reacted after being forced out of a high profile job after over two decades of success with the media hoping for a controversey?
----Yes, I would have gone and cried on my pile of money knowing that I just made hundreds of thousands of dollars playing a game and not actually having to do a "real" job.

My only criticism of Moore has been the off the field incidents in the past year. If Moore is ultimately to blame, then I think the position coaches should share the blame as they are the ones who should have the most contact with said players.
----When something goes wrong with any major corporation/country/anything whose face is plastered everywhere? The CEO/owner/president/.....head coach. The head coach is in charge of those position coaches as well as the players. They do share the blame but they are under the command of JM so ultimately it still comes down to him needing to have taken the initiative to straighten things up.

I would bet a week's pay that the ones involved weren't any of the ones who attend the weekly optional bible study. Just a guess.
----Without religion you would have good people doing good things and bad people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, that takes religion. JC, don't drag religion in to this.

None of the coaches nor all of them combined can be mother and father to almost a hundred 20+ year olds 24/7/365.

---You are definitely right here. JM couldn't even keep control of his own son let alone a full team of athletes.



How about instead of rehashing this dead horse you just let it go and move on? We have a new coach and it is a lovely new year. Learning from the past leads you to the future. Living in the past leaves you blind.

[JCline0429]

Who cares?

Certainly not the anti-Moore crowd. Evidently the one who wrote the letter to the editor does.

GOOD! And he got to see it in the paper! Bully for him! WTH is it doing here a month later?

How classy is that? Certainly not Appalachian State classy.

you wont win when debating or even having a discussion with this guy jcline...you're better off finding the nearest hardwood tree and banging your head against it.

Good advice Beer Hat Guy. I agree, but for some reason as a former coach myself, I can't help defend a guy who has created such a positive legacy at our alma mater when I see someone (or ones) publicly dancing on his grave so to speak.
I just hope the down fall of JM doesn't bite us in the arse sometime in the future. With the talent we have we should do great next year and until some of our skill players depart.

FWIW, REP POINT to you.

[JCline0429]

Of course it would have been legally unnecessary but it would have shown more class by all parties involved and possibly avoid JM's showing his butt in the media.How was Coach notified. Was it an e-mail, phone call, a leak to the press, or whatever? I don't recall anyone discussing that.
I'm pretty sure that was discussed somewhere on here.
----He knew going in to this year that it was his last year. I've heard from too many people that are much much closer inside the program than I to not believe that he didn't know that this was going to be his last year. People who are in blue collar jobs are lucky to even get a phone call regardless if they have worked 5 years or 25. That pretty much goes for most business jobs. I'm pretty sure we all know some people who got a slip of paper and a finger to the door and that was it. I'm really tired of people putting athletes/coaches on god like pedestals. They are entertainers. Sports is entertainment yet those involved are hoisted, beyond logic, to the point of blind reverence.

Does anyone on here know exactly how they would have reacted after being forced out of a high profile job after over two decades of success with the media hoping for a controversey?
----Yes, I would have gone and cried on my pile of money knowing that I just made hundreds of thousands of dollars playing a game and not actually having to do a "real" job.

My only criticism of Moore has been the off the field incidents in the past year. If Moore is ultimately to blame, then I think the position coaches should share the blame as they are the ones who should have the most contact with said players.
----When something goes wrong with any major corporation/country/anything whose face is plastered everywhere? The CEO/owner/president/.....head coach. The head coach is in charge of those position coaches as well as the players. They do share the blame but they are under the command of JM so ultimately it still comes down to him needing to have taken the initiative to straighten things up.

I would bet a week's pay that the ones involved weren't any of the ones who attend the weekly optional bible study. Just a guess.
----Without religion you would have good people doing good things and bad people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, that takes religion. JC, don't drag religion in to this.

None of the coaches nor all of them combined can be mother and father to almost a hundred 20+ year olds 24/7/365.

---You are definitely right here. JM couldn't even keep control of his own son let alone a full team of athletes.



How about instead of rehashing this dead horse you just let it go and move on? We have a new coach and it is a lovely new year. Learning from the past leads you to the future. Living in the past leaves you blind.

This whole thread stems from a single post with my quoting a letter to the editor about Coach volunteering for the United Way. My apologies.

[JCline0429]

Appdaze, why didn't you use the quote function? That is what is there for. To the casual reader and we have tons of them, my post's comments run in with yours. It sounds like you are debating yourself.
Just a suggestion.

[ASUTodd]

Who cares?

Certainly not the anti-Moore crowd. Evidently the one who wrote the letter to the editor does.

GOOD! And he got to see it in the paper! Bully for him! WTH is it doing here a month later?

How classy is that? Certainly not Appalachian State classy.

you wont win when debating or even having a discussion with this guy jcline...you're better off finding the nearest hardwood tree and banging your head against it.

Jesus Christ PBR..... If you're siding with JCline then I'm not sure you and I can be friends.

[ASUTodd]

Appdaze, why didn't you use the quote function? That is what is there for. To the casualy reader and we have tons of them, my post's comments run in with yours. It sounds like you are debating yourself.
Just a suggestion.

I have some suggestions for you.... But they'd get deleted.

[JCline0429]

Appdaze, why didn't you use the quote function? That is what is there for. To the casualy reader and we have tons of them, my post's comments run in with yours. It sounds like you are debating yourself.
Just a suggestion.

I have some suggestions for you.... But they'd get deleted.

Same here. In fact I typed in a couple for you but decided not to post them in here for fear that you'd start your silly personal attacks and ugly up this board..

[JCline0429]

Who cares?

Certainly not the anti-Moore crowd. Evidently the one who wrote the letter to the editor does.

Just curious, but does everyone who has a great deal of respect for Coach Moore's accomplishments and all that he has done for the community and for the young men he coached, but feels that he handled this situation poorly by trying to back the administration into a corner fall into your definition of the "anti-Moore" crowd?

I was referring to those who have traditionally been on the anti-Moore wagon for years, even going back to the early 90's well before you began moderating. Many of those changed their attitude slightly shortly after JM was "forced out."
I assumed you would know what I meant.

Reminder, Glenn, I started this thread for the sole reason of giving a bit of recognition for what JM had done for the community.
Cheers.

[moehler]

dam, this stupid debate is never going to $#@%$ end!!1

[JCline0429]

dam, this stupid debate is never going to $#@%$ end!!1

No worries. My part is ended as of right now.