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Unread post by rbarthle17 » Thu Oct 21, 2021 10:03 am

I think an underrated big play was the PI on Corey on 4th down that kept the TD drive alive. That play was not going to get the first down on its own.

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Thu Oct 21, 2021 10:20 am

OK guys - here is the play sequence that ended the first half - Here's your chance to say what you would do differently -

1. Time 2:14 - Ball on our own 14 - 1st-10 ---Pass to Malik for 7 yards
2. - Ball on 21 - 2nd and 3 --- Harrington rush for 5 yds - 1ST DOWN - CLOCKED STOPPED
3. - Ball on 26 - 1st and 10 --- Pass to Malik for 3 yds
4. - Ball on 29 - 2nd and 7 --- Pass to Malik for 2 yds
5. - Ball on 31 - 3rd and 5 --- Harrington run for 5 yds - IST DOWN - CLOCKED STOPPED - APP TIME OUT
6. 28 sec - Ball on 36 - 1st and 10 --- Brice runs for 8 yds to 44 yd line - APP TIME OUT
7. 22 sec - Ball on our own 44 - pass to Corey --- fumble --- 11 seconds left
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Unread post by AppSt94 » Thu Oct 21, 2021 10:26 am

Given where we started the drive and the clock, I think that you have to have a plan from the first snap. Now if one of those plays breaks for a 20 yarder, then maybe you reassess.

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Unread post by Saint3333 » Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:38 am

WVAPPeer wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 10:20 am
OK guys - here is the play sequence that ended the first half - Here's your chance to say what you would do differently -

1. Time 2:14 - Ball on our own 14 - 1st-10 ---Pass to Malik for 7 yards - liked it
2. - Ball on 21 - 2nd and 3 --- Harrington rush for 5 yds - 1ST DOWN - CLOCKED STOPPED (only momentarily, 10 -15 seconds ran off
3. - Ball on 26 - 1st and 10 --- Pass to Malik for 3 yds - middle of the field, too short
4. - Ball on 29 - 2nd and 7 --- Pass to Malik for 2 yds - same as above
5. - Ball on 31 - 3rd and 5 --- Harrington run for 5 yds - IST DOWN - CLOCKED STOPPED - APP TIME OUT
6. 28 sec - Ball on 36 - 1st and 10 --- Brice runs for 8 yds to 44 yd line - APP TIME OUT (didn't know where the sticks were, slid feet first)
7. 22 sec - Ball on our own 44 - pass to Corey --- fumble --- 11 seconds left (too short of a pass to get into FG range, just run the ball if you aren't going to try)
See armchair QB comments above, my wife can attest to these thoughts during the game.

Again going for it on 4th and 1 from the 45 the previous drive contradicts the thought process of playing conservative on the last drive.

If we had punted there the last sequence would have made more sense. Then the play calling seemed to introduce risk and be conservative, none of which put us into a position to score and led to a higher percentage play of turning it over. I think the players and coaches were disappointed with their effort the last two drives of the first half. They responded well (especially Sutton) in the second.

All this said love Clark and this team, so much potential to still do special things this year.

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:00 pm

Personally, I agree that I wasn't crazy about a couple of the play calls but as it all developed Coach played out the time management perfectly ---
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Unread post by Saint3333 » Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:21 pm

The end of the game clock management was very good, that was never questioned.

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Unread post by asumba95 » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:14 pm

WVAPPeer wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:24 pm
Another thing - the announcers - I like Anish and Luckinbill a lot and see them on Packer and Durham and they are very good and very knowledgeable but I watched the entire 2nd half with the sound off - I honestly believe ESPN has told their people to hype Coastal every chance they can ---
ESPN tells their people to promote a lot of different things.

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Unread post by fjblair » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:33 pm

asumba95 wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:14 pm
WVAPPeer wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:24 pm
Another thing - the announcers - I like Anish and Luckinbill a lot and see them on Packer and Durham and they are very good and very knowledgeable but I watched the entire 2nd half with the sound off - I honestly believe ESPN has told their people to hype Coastal every chance they can ---
ESPN tells their people to promote a lot of different things.
Yeah but the gushing and slobbering made me nauseous it was so over the top. I mean this is a team that has had success for exactly one covid season and what looks to be a good season this year. Last year and this year ESPN would have you believe they are a dynasty.

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Unread post by Black Saturday » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:55 pm

fjblair wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:33 pm
asumba95 wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:14 pm
WVAPPeer wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:24 pm
Another thing - the announcers - I like Anish and Luckinbill a lot and see them on Packer and Durham and they are very good and very knowledgeable but I watched the entire 2nd half with the sound off - I honestly believe ESPN has told their people to hype Coastal every chance they can ---
ESPN tells their people to promote a lot of different things.
Yeah but the gushing and slobbering made me nauseous it was so over the top. I mean this is a team that has had success for exactly one covid season and what looks to be a good season this year. Last year and this year ESPN would have you believe they are a dynasty.
ESPN built a Mullet fairytale and sold and bought all of their own hype, fake, lofty stats built up by playing a bottom ranked schedule of garbage teams.
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Unread post by appstate5 » Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:12 pm

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Under the circumstances, getting spanked the week before, 14th ranked team, conference championship implications, media-hyped CCU, tied game decided on field goal as time expired...the students rushing the field was not just OK but awesome. People watching all over the country saw the passion that our kids have for our program. Also, that's a memory those kids will hold onto for the rest of their App-fandom-life.
Appsolutely....my daughter said 2007(?) was last time students stormed the field after a playoff game against Richmond. I was more than ok with it, my students got some great pics with the players celebrating with them.

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Unread post by ASU3432Mi » Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:33 pm

We're gonna get a mention on PTI near the end of the show today.

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AppSt94 wrote:
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And since we are talking about the crowd....App Nation on a Wednesday night.... 31k? Who does that?
Ones who skip Thursday morning classes or lay out of work Thursday morning. lol
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Unread post by spong » Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:58 pm

I feel so old...

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Unread post by AppYosef! » Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:17 pm

WVAPPeer wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:24 pm
Another thing - the announcers - I like Anish and Luckinbill a lot and see them on Packer and Durham and they are very good and very knowledgeable but I watched the entire 2nd half with the sound off - I honestly believe ESPN has told their people to hype Coastal every chance they can ---
My mother (who is in her 90's) watched the game on TV last night and she too turned off the sound because the announcers seemed so biased toward Coastal. First time I have ever heard her comment on that as she usually doesn't listen to the announcers that much.

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:01 pm

Agree with end of game time management of course, but I was commenting on the end of the 1st half -
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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:03 pm

Another comment on the game/s - somewhat negative but more so strategically ---
Either let the ball hit in the endzone when we are receiving the kickoff or call a fair catch and take the ball at the 25. - but if the plan is to return the kick tell blockers they DON'T hold nor block in the back - if the guy is passed you let him go and get the next guy - Rarely have I seen the guy being held or blocked illegally being the guy who was gone to stop the return anyhow ---
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Unread post by Cro-Magnon App » Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:37 pm

Clock management is more difficult than people think. Seems simple. Even Saban mismanaged it sometime. Every week there will be an NFL coach that screws it up. It’s not just on the coach. Those players have to know when to get out-of-bounds, when to get to the line in proper spot in a hurry, when not to catch a ball so the clock will stop, and much more. Twice, our backs have went down near the goal line without scoring because they are well taught and knew the situation. It’s quite different being on that sideline. All fans want it to be perfect management, and think it so, but believe me, it is not. Been there.

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Unread post by AppSt94 » Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:19 am

Cro-Magnon App wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:37 pm
Clock management is more difficult than people think. Seems simple. Even Saban mismanaged it sometime. Every week there will be an NFL coach that screws it up. It’s not just on the coach. Those players have to know when to get out-of-bounds, when to get to the line in proper spot in a hurry, when not to catch a ball so the clock will stop, and much more. Twice, our backs have went down near the goal line without scoring because they are well taught and knew the situation. It’s quite different being on that sideline. All fans want it to be perfect management, and think it so, but believe me, it is not. Been there.
Excellent point. Especially the last point. It is something that is practiced and planned but like wins and losses, stuff happens.

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Unread post by Saint3333 » Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:30 am

Cro-Magnon App wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:37 pm
Clock management is more difficult than people think. Seems simple. Even Saban mismanaged it sometime. Every week there will be an NFL coach that screws it up. It’s not just on the coach. Those players have to know when to get out-of-bounds, when to get to the line in proper spot in a hurry, when not to catch a ball so the clock will stop, and much more. Twice, our backs have went down near the goal line without scoring because they are well taught and knew the situation. It’s quite different being on that sideline. All fans want it to be perfect management, and think it so, but believe me, it is not. Been there.
Portions of all jobs are difficult. No one is saying it's easy. However glossing over it or attempting to silence discussion of a critical part of the game isn't a reasonable expectation on a fan message board.

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:40 am

Saint3333 wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:38 am
WVAPPeer wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 10:20 am
OK guys - here is the play sequence that ended the first half - Here's your chance to say what you would do differently -

1. Time 2:14 - Ball on our own 14 - 1st-10 ---Pass to Malik for 7 yards - liked it - AGREE
2. - Ball on 21 - 2nd and 3 --- Harrington rush for 5 yds - 1ST DOWN - CLOCKED STOPPED (only momentarily, 10 -15 seconds ran off -TRUE BUT AT THAT POINT THE BALL IS ON THE 21 - TOO SOON TO CALL TO
3. - Ball on 26 - 1st and 10 --- Pass to Malik for 3 yds - middle of the field, too short AGREE
4. - Ball on 29 - 2nd and 7 --- Pass to Malik for 2 yds - same as above AGREE WAY TOO SHORT ACTUALLY THOUGHT CC WOULD CALL TO HERE
5. - Ball on 31 - 3rd and 5 --- Harrington run for 5 yds - IST DOWN - CLOCKED STOPPED - APP TIME OUT
6. 28 sec - Ball on 36 - 1st and 10 --- Brice runs for 8 yds to 44 yd line - APP TIME OUT (didn't know where the sticks were, slid feet first) AGREED - NEEDED THE FIRST DOWN THEN SPIKE THE BALL SAVE THE TO
7. 22 sec - Ball on our own 44 - pass to Corey --- fumble --- 11 seconds left (too short of a pass to get into FG range, just run the ball if you aren't going to try) AGREED - DON'T UNDERSTAND A SHORT DRAG PASS WITH TIME RUNNING OUT AND A LONG WAY TO GET TO SCORING POSITION
See armchair QB comments above, my wife can attest to these thoughts during the game.

Again going for it on 4th and 1 from the 45 the previous drive contradicts the thought process of playing conservative on the last drive.
MY COMMENTS ABOUT YOUR COMMENTS ARE IN CAPS AND RED - not yelling at you just making it look different

If we had punted there the last sequence would have made more sense. Then the play calling seemed to introduce risk and be conservative, none of which put us into a position to score and led to a higher percentage play of turning it over. I think the players and coaches were disappointed with their effort the last two drives of the first half. They responded well (especially Sutton) in the second.

All this said love Clark and this team, so much potential to still do special things this year.
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