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Brice returning

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Re: Brice returning

Unread post by spacemonkey » Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:33 pm

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Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:41 pm
A third of our rushing yards were on one play. Our most consistent ground gainer was the QB running for his life.Southern held us to less than a hundred as I recall the week prior.I'm not saying to tar and feather the O line but we have issues that have to be fixed if we are going to win championships. We had the skill players , and the Defense to win this thing .Shawn knows it .
It is truly probably easier to find skilled running backs than O linemen. We have had some great Oline play over the years. I used to call them "the big nasty".

Hopefully, Shawn will build it back. If he can't, he has to get some misdirection in his play calling.

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Re: Brice returning

Unread post by huskie3 » Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:14 pm

Back to Brice, a Clemson fan asked tonight if he had another year. She said he would be welcomed back at Clemson if he wanted to come.
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Re: Brice returning

Unread post by WASU 93 » Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:31 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:28 pm
bigdaddyg wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:08 pm
I know this topic is supposed to be about Brice returning and it’s transitioned to everyone or everything else like running backs so I’ll ask- why were the coaches so dead set on some running back rotation? If it was Noel’s turn he was in for the whole series no matter what the situation. Same for Cam and DH. I think NN was phenomenal this year but how many times did we have 3rd and 2 and needed to just pound the ball for a first down- with Cam? Nope not his turn apparently so it was live or die with Nate.
Interesting question on the short yardage. I went a pulled the play charts for each game and found it surprising. I looked at every play that was 3rd down and 3 or less and charted the outcome. We had a total of 40 such plays. 31 runs and 9 passes. Of the 31 runs on 3rd and 3 or less. Noel was 8/13 on getting the first down. Cam was 4/11. Brice was 3/3, Harrington was 0/1, Castle was 1/2 and Montgomery was 1/1. On 4th down and less than 3: Cam was 3/4 and Noel, Brice and Harrington were all 1/1. Seems that Nate wasn’t a bad option if not a better one.
But, looking solely at 4th Down rushes by our RB's, we were very successful, with Peoples being the King of 4th Down:
Miami--4th and 2--Peoples 28 yard TD
Elon--4th and 4--Noel 5 yard gain for the 1st Down
Marshall--4th and 1--Peoples 3 yard gain for the 1st Down
Louisiana--4th and 1--Noel 1 yard gain for the 1st Down
Coastal--4th and 1--Noel 1 YARD LOSS
ULM--4th and 2-Noel 4 yard gain for the 1st Down
--4th and 4--Peoples 26 yard TD run
--4th and 1--Peoples. NO GAIN
--4th and 1--Peoples 4 yard run for the 1st Down
Ark. State--4th and 2--Noel 2 yard run for the 1st Down
--4th and 1--Peoples 5 yard run for the 1st Down
South Al.--4th and 1--Peoples 5 yard run for the 1st Down
Troy--4th and 2--Peoples 3 yard run for the 1st Down
--4th and 1--Harrington 1 yard TD run
--4th and 2--Castle 2 yard run for the 1st Down
--4th and 1--Smith 1 yard run for the 1st Down
GaSo--4th and 1--Castle 5 yard run for the 1st Down

So, our RB's have been successful 15 times in 17 fourth down carries

Peoples: 7 of 8 with 5 First Downs and two TD's
Noel: 4 of 5 with 4 First Downs
Castle 2 of 2 with 2 First Downs
Harrington: 1 of 1 for a TD
Smith: 1 of 1 for a First Down

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Re: Brice returning

Unread post by Cro-Magnon App » Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:22 pm

Good research! Thank you.

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Re: Brice returning

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:27 pm

WASU 93 wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:31 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:28 pm
bigdaddyg wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:08 pm
I know this topic is supposed to be about Brice returning and it’s transitioned to everyone or everything else like running backs so I’ll ask- why were the coaches so dead set on some running back rotation? If it was Noel’s turn he was in for the whole series no matter what the situation. Same for Cam and DH. I think NN was phenomenal this year but how many times did we have 3rd and 2 and needed to just pound the ball for a first down- with Cam? Nope not his turn apparently so it was live or die with Nate.
Interesting question on the short yardage. I went a pulled the play charts for each game and found it surprising. I looked at every play that was 3rd down and 3 or less and charted the outcome. We had a total of 40 such plays. 31 runs and 9 passes. Of the 31 runs on 3rd and 3 or less. Noel was 8/13 on getting the first down. Cam was 4/11. Brice was 3/3, Harrington was 0/1, Castle was 1/2 and Montgomery was 1/1. On 4th down and less than 3: Cam was 3/4 and Noel, Brice and Harrington were all 1/1. Seems that Nate wasn’t a bad option if not a better one.
But, looking solely at 4th Down rushes by our RB's, we were very successful, with Peoples being the King of 4th Down:
Miami--4th and 2--Peoples 28 yard TD
Elon--4th and 4--Noel 5 yard gain for the 1st Down
Marshall--4th and 1--Peoples 3 yard gain for the 1st Down
Louisiana--4th and 1--Noel 1 yard gain for the 1st Down
Coastal--4th and 1--Noel 1 YARD LOSS
ULM--4th and 2-Noel 4 yard gain for the 1st Down
--4th and 4--Peoples 26 yard TD run
--4th and 1--Peoples. NO GAIN
--4th and 1--Peoples 4 yard run for the 1st Down
Ark. State--4th and 2--Noel 2 yard run for the 1st Down
--4th and 1--Peoples 5 yard run for the 1st Down
South Al.--4th and 1--Peoples 5 yard run for the 1st Down
Troy--4th and 2--Peoples 3 yard run for the 1st Down
--4th and 1--Harrington 1 yard TD run
--4th and 2--Castle 2 yard run for the 1st Down
--4th and 1--Smith 1 yard run for the 1st Down
GaSo--4th and 1--Castle 5 yard run for the 1st Down

So, our RB's have been successful 15 times in 17 fourth down carries

Peoples: 7 of 8 with 5 First Downs and two TD's
Noel: 4 of 5 with 4 First Downs
Castle 2 of 2 with 2 First Downs
Harrington: 1 of 1 for a TD
Smith: 1 of 1 for a First Down
More proof that our coaches know more than we do.

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Re: Brice returning

Unread post by Rekdiver » Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:29 pm

What about 3rd and short…2-3 yards?

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Re: Brice returning

Unread post by Stonewall » Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:33 pm

Sparky , or" Corky" as Spurrier called him, recruited D lineman with the intent of switching them to offense from day one, based upon his perception of their footwork skills.

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Re: Brice returning

Unread post by AppSt94 » Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:16 pm

Rekdiver wrote:
Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:29 pm
What about 3rd and short…2-3 yards?
Interesting question on the short yardage. I went a pulled the play charts for each game and found it surprising. I looked at every play that was 3rd down and 3 or less and charted the outcome. We had a total of 40 such plays. 31 runs and 9 passes. Of the 31 runs on 3rd and 3 or less. Noel was 8/13 on getting the first down. Cam was 4/11. Brice was 3/3, Harrington was 0/1, Castle was 1/2 and Montgomery was 1/1.

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Re: Brice returning

Unread post by WASU 93 » Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:06 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:16 pm
Rekdiver wrote:
Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:29 pm
What about 3rd and short…2-3 yards?
Interesting question on the short yardage. I went a pulled the play charts for each game and found it surprising. I looked at every play that was 3rd down and 3 or less and charted the outcome. We had a total of 40 such plays. 31 runs and 9 passes. Of the 31 runs on 3rd and 3 or less. Noel was 8/13 on getting the first down. Cam was 4/11. Brice was 3/3, Harrington was 0/1, Castle was 1/2 and Montgomery was 1/1.
One other comment on 3rd and short. There are times when Clark/Ponce know that we are going to go for it on 4th down, if we don't make it on 3rd. So, the play calling affects that.
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Re: Brice returning

Unread post by AppSt94 » Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:29 pm

WASU 93 wrote:
Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:06 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:16 pm
Rekdiver wrote:
Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:29 pm
What about 3rd and short…2-3 yards?
Interesting question on the short yardage. I went a pulled the play charts for each game and found it surprising. I looked at every play that was 3rd down and 3 or less and charted the outcome. We had a total of 40 such plays. 31 runs and 9 passes. Of the 31 runs on 3rd and 3 or less. Noel was 8/13 on getting the first down. Cam was 4/11. Brice was 3/3, Harrington was 0/1, Castle was 1/2 and Montgomery was 1/1.
One other comment on 3rd and short. There are times when Clark/Ponce know that we are going to go for it on 4th down, if we don't make it on 3rd. So, the play calling affect that.
Absolutely true.

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