Depth chart surprises

[ASUFan4863]

As the podcast mentioned - Noel led the SBC 2 years ago in rushing yards. Granted this was before Frank Gore Jr and Ali from Marshall. He has the all around ability to be the best RB in the G5 frankly. Hopefully the improvements in S&C will help him stay healthy and reach his fullest potential!

[PoplarHillApp]

With the stable of RBs we have, if the OL controls the line of scrimmage, we should be explosive offensively.

Any word on defensive secondary? We got beat all over the field last year.

[huskie3]

The RB’s all have different strengths: some are better blocker; some are better short yardage; others are better pass receiver. I think they all will receive time in their best situations.

[AppSt94]

With the stable of RBs we have, if the OL controls the line of scrimmage, we should be explosive offensively.

Any word on defensive secondary? We got beat all over the field last year.

Last years issues were due to playing young guys and lack of a pass rush and injuries along the front 7. Both elements should be improved with depth which will compliment one another nicely.

[EastHallApp]

The way our RBs usually go down with injuries, Roberts may be #1 by mid season.

It's already begun, from my understanding.

Vague

Sorry, you're right. I don't know a lot of details, and some of what I do is from the 247 premium board, so I want to be sensitive to that.

It sounds like Castle may miss some time. I believe a couple other guys are dinged up as well, but those sound less serious.

[Black Saturday]

Robert’s is essentially 5th on the depth chart behind Noel, Marshall, Haywood and Castle.

Surprising when watching him run last year. Hope he'll get some game time play

[AppSt94]

Robert’s is essentially 5th on the depth chart behind Noel, Marshall, Haywood and Castle.

Surprising when watching him run last year. Hope he'll get some game time play

He showed potential but he has a lot to learn and the guys in front of him aren’t chopped liver. There is a lot to his game to get excited about.

[AppStFan1]

On the podcasts, Markell Samuel And Jayden Ramsey both were mentioned as possible starting tackles. Thorton Gentry as a primary backup as well, suprised to not hear Jaden Lindsay's name mentioned but maybe I heard them wrong! lol

Nate Noel mentioned as just being an abosolute beast should be in the discussion for Sun Belt player of the year if he can stay healthy.

Noel's only issue is that he is small. If he can stay healthy and have a monster year he will have a serious shot to get drafted. His speed, quickness, and receiving skills are going to attract a lot of NFL attention this fall.

My understanding is that he's not as small as previous seasons.

I was talking both short and light but It does appear he has bulked up, so that does help him some.

Muscular, built short to the ground, coordinated and fast = perfect!

Scouts think he is 5'10, 185 pounds. He did not measure at the junior pro day so it will be interesting to see what he actually is. If he is 5'10, 200-205 then they won't consider him small. If he is 5'9, 180-185 pounds then he will be considered undersized.

[WASU 93]

The way our RBs usually go down with injuries, Roberts may be #1 by mid season.

It's already begun, from my understanding.

Vague

Sorry, you're right. I don't know a lot of details, and some of what I do is from the 247 premium board, so I want to be sensitive to that.

It sounds like Castle may miss some time. I believe a couple other guys are dinged up as well, but those sound less serious.

From what I saw at FanFest, Castle is definitely going to be out for a stretch.

[AppSt94]

The way our RBs usually go down with injuries, Roberts may be #1 by mid season.

It's already begun, from my understanding.

Vague

Sorry, you're right. I don't know a lot of details, and some of what I do is from the 247 premium board, so I want to be sensitive to that.

It sounds like Castle may miss some time. I believe a couple other guys are dinged up as well, but those sound less serious.

From what I saw at FanFest, Castle is definitely going to be out for a stretch.

He told me 8-10 weeks.

[BambooRdApp]

It's already begun, from my understanding.

Vague

Sorry, you're right. I don't know a lot of details, and some of what I do is from the 247 premium board, so I want to be sensitive to that.

It sounds like Castle may miss some time. I believe a couple other guys are dinged up as well, but those sound less serious.

From what I saw at FanFest, Castle is definitely going to be out for a stretch.

He told me 8-10 weeks.

If that is the case, can he take injured red shirt and get another full year? Not sure what his eligibility allows..I realize kid will want to play, but if back only two to three games, may be better for him personally to take the extra year if available.... realize all depends when back and, to certain degree how team is playing.

[ASUFan4863]

Vague

Sorry, you're right. I don't know a lot of details, and some of what I do is from the 247 premium board, so I want to be sensitive to that.

It sounds like Castle may miss some time. I believe a couple other guys are dinged up as well, but those sound less serious.

From what I saw at FanFest, Castle is definitely going to be out for a stretch.

He told me 8-10 weeks.

If that is the case, can he take injured red shirt and get another full year? Not sure what his eligibility allows..I realize kid will want to play, but if back only two to three games, may be better for him personally to take the extra year if available.... realize all depends when back and, to certain degree how team is playing.

Castle still has his normal redshirt available as well. I am not sure if the NCAA allows non-freshman to use this though. I couldn't find a definitive yes or no but this excerpt seems to indicate any player can use the redshirt - "Beginning immediately, college football players of any year of eligibility, can compete in up to four games and still maintain their redshirt status".

If that is the case, then holding him out until JMU (so he can play in the SBC championship game and bowl game) make the most sense

[AppSt94]

Sorry, you're right. I don't know a lot of details, and some of what I do is from the 247 premium board, so I want to be sensitive to that.

It sounds like Castle may miss some time. I believe a couple other guys are dinged up as well, but those sound less serious.

From what I saw at FanFest, Castle is definitely going to be out for a stretch.

He told me 8-10 weeks.

If that is the case, can he take injured red shirt and get another full year? Not sure what his eligibility allows..I realize kid will want to play, but if back only two to three games, may be better for him personally to take the extra year if available.... realize all depends when back and, to certain degree how team is playing.

Castle still has his normal redshirt available as well. I am not sure if the NCAA allows non-freshman to use this though. I couldn't find a definitive yes or no but this excerpt seems to indicate any player can use the redshirt - "Beginning immediately, college football players of any year of eligibility, can compete in up to four games and still maintain their redshirt status".

If that is the case, then holding him out until JMU (so he can play in the SBC championship game and bowl game) make the most sense

He can use a normal RS at any time of his career. A Medical R/S can only be used after they have burned a normal R/S.

[T-Dog]

If Castle is out til Southern Miss as he told people he would be, then that's an interesting conundrum with 5 regular season games left about playing him to preserve his redshirt.

Also, that injury can be tricky and could be reaggravated in training.

[ASUFan4863]

If Castle is out til Southern Miss as he told people he would be, then that's an interesting conundrum with 5 regular season games left about playing him to preserve his redshirt.

Also, that injury can be tricky and could be reaggravated in training.

I guess it would largely depend on his educational goals and life plans entering his 4th year, but *if* all of our top 4 backs are healthy entering USM then I don’t see the point in burning a year of eligibility. This is a football-driven selfish POV though of wanting to see him for 2 full seasons.

[spacemonkey]

If he uses the red shirt this year his life goals would still be achievable if he chose to leave football after next year. The redshirt will not hold him back, it will just give him options.

[Stonewall]

I was told Castle got up to about 225 , a lean 225 and was a bulldozer .Like all of our guys just very gracious and respectful , I hurt for him .Whatever is best for him long term.

[Cro-Magnon App]

Walter Payton 5’10” 200
Barry Sanders 5’8” 200
Thurman Thomas 5’10” 200
Mercury Morris 5’10” 190
Marshall Faulk 5’10” 210

So what are Noel’s dimensions?

[WASU 93]

I was told Castle got up to about 225 , a lean 225 and was a bulldozer .Like all of our guys just very gracious and respectful , I hurt for him .Whatever is best for him long term.

I know a redshirt may be the "logical" choice. However, if a player has gone through off-season workouts, spring ball, summer workouts and fall camp, they want to play in games. The future is not guaranteed. I have no issue if he plays 5 or 6 games this year, even if it means he gets the rest of this season and next. If he rehabs and is game ready, it's his choice.

[asucrazy]

What kind of injury did Castle sustain? Upper orLower body ?

From what I saw at FanFest, Castle is definitely going to be out for a stretch.

He told me 8-10 weeks.

If that is the case, can he take injured red shirt and get another full year? Not sure what his eligibility allows..I realize kid will want to play, but if back only two to three games, may be better for him personally to take the extra year if available.... realize all depends when back and, to certain degree how team is playing.

Castle still has his normal redshirt available as well. I am not sure if the NCAA allows non-freshman to use this though. I couldn't find a definitive yes or no but this excerpt seems to indicate any player can use the redshirt - "Beginning immediately, college football players of any year of eligibility, can compete in up to four games and still maintain their redshirt status".

If that is the case, then holding him out until JMU (so he can play in the SBC championship game and bowl game) make the most sense

He can use a normal RS at any time of his career. A Medical R/S can only be used after they have burned a normal R/S.