Clemson game thread and discussion

[AppSt94]

100% true. The way we got beat down last night is what surprised most. I don't think anyone picked us to get blown out like we did. The way we respond is going to tell us something. Clemson is by far the best team we play the rest of this year. Nobody left on the schedule should hold us under 30 points.

I walked into the game with one of the player’s parents and we both had the same conversation. How would this team respond next week based on last night’s results. Would a win create a lull, would a route be demoralizing. Neither of us expected a route but it happens. I watched Colorado/Nebraska this morning and Colorado couldn’t do anything right all night. Games happen where the wheels just fall off and you have to handle it for what it was. We have 3 games in a 14 day stretch and that is going to be telling.

Colorado is a complete joke. Their QB is getting first round buzz and he throws his teammates under the bus publicly. I think he is a massive bust waiting to happen.

True. But my point is that sometimes, games get away from you and there just isn’t a way to fight through it. That game last night was over at the 7:30 mark of the 1st quarter. It was clear that they could do what they wanted. We could have quit but the kids and the coaches didn’t.

That can happen. I fully expect App to cover the spread and win big this week. If we lose then I would say the alarm bells should go off. I want to see how we look the next 3 games. That will tell us if we are just bad or ran into a buzz saw, which I don't think we are bad. I think Clemson is a top 10-15 team.

Agree. The next three games are critical for tone.

[appstate5]

Last night was the real "Bombs over Baghdad", that's one game I wish I would not have attended.
So if we finish 10-2 or 9-3 and miraculously make it into the playoff but get blown out of the stadium again by an Ole Miss or UT.
Would everyone once again be happy with App State football?

[Bootsy]

What happened to the Gorilla?

[appstate24]

What happened to the Gorilla?

Woke up from his hang over, realized he slept too late and missed his shift at Waffle House.

[AppWyo]

We are 1-1, which is likely what most of all figured would be the situation after two games.

I really want to know, what would it take for you to admit we're not as good as we were? The 6-6 season didn't do it. Our championship drought hasn't done it. Seriously, what's your line in the sand?

6-6 was two seasons ago. We bounced back and went 9-5 with a win over a fellow G5 conference champ last year, or did you conveniently forget that? This is the season where we will really find out if Clarck can build off his OWN momentum, not Drinks, or if the 9-5 bounceback was a fluke. We can still win the conference.

Because of the extra year of eligibility next year will be fully Shawn Clark's Team. I really do think Drinkwitz and the pandemic did a number on everything Appalachian, we just did not know it at the time, but we are still feeling the results.

One thing we do have now are big time fans that expect to win every game and for every game to be a blowout. I also imagine some of the people that are complaining the loudest are the ones who lost money on the game.

by appstate5 » Sun Sep 08, 2024 2:40 pm

Last night was the real "Bombs over Baghdad", that's one game I wish I would not have attended.
So if we finish 10-2 or 9-3 and miraculously make it into the playoff but get blown out of the stadium again by an Ole Miss or UT.
Would everyone once again be happy with App State football?

Hey, if we make the playoffs we will not get blownout, because we will have fixed those problems by then.

[311neers]

We are 1-1, which is likely what most of all figured would be the situation after two games.

I really want to know, what would it take for you to admit we're not as good as we were? The 6-6 season didn't do it. Our championship drought hasn't done it. Seriously, what's your line in the sand?

6-6 was two seasons ago. We bounced back and went 9-5 with a win over a fellow G5 conference champ last year, or did you conveniently forget that? This is the season where we will really find out if Clarck can build off his OWN momentum, not Drinks, or if the 9-5 bounceback was a fluke. We can still win the conference.

Because of the extra year of eligibility next year will be fully Shawn Clark's Team. I really do think Drinkwitz and the pandemic did a number on everything Appalachian, we just did not know it at the time, but we are still feeling the results.

One thing we do have now are big time fans that expect to win every game and for every game to be a blowout. I also imagine some of the people that are complaining the loudest are the ones who lost money on the game.

by appstate5 » Sun Sep 08, 2024 2:40 pm

Last night was the real "Bombs over Baghdad", that's one game I wish I would not have attended.
So if we finish 10-2 or 9-3 and miraculously make it into the playoff but get blown out of the stadium again by an Ole Miss or UT.
Would everyone once again be happy with App State football?

Hey, if we make the playoffs we will not get blownout, because we will have fixed those problems by then.

Drinkwitz has been gone for half a decade. This is all on Clark at this point. No excuses. And let’s quit mentioning playoffs since we just got beat by 46.

[ASUTodd]

I wonder if we make the bottom 10 ranking this week....

[AppSt94]

I wonder if we make the bottom 10 ranking this week....

I’m sure that you will be disappointed if we don’t.

[Black Saturday]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/ ... 7d5e&ei=24

Here's a headline for the locker room.

[ASUTodd]

I wonder if we make the bottom 10 ranking this week....

I’m sure that you will be disappointed if we don’t.

Why would I be disappointed? You might need to deflect the remarks to someone else.

[Stonewall]

“Playoffs ?!?! Playoffs?!?!”

[AppinVA]

Drink was here for one year, one. And the pandemic affected everyone, not just our favorite school. I’m not saying to get rid of anyone at this point, but STOP blaming things from years ago and playing like we were the only ones who were affected by Covid. Basically you’re saying everyone else just adjusted better.

[AppDub]

We are 1-1, which is likely what most of all figured would be the situation after two games.

I really want to know, what would it take for you to admit we're not as good as we were? The 6-6 season didn't do it. Our championship drought hasn't done it. Seriously, what's your line in the sand?

6-6 was two seasons ago. We bounced back and went 9-5 with a win over a fellow G5 conference champ last year, or did you conveniently forget that? This is the season where we will really find out if Clarck can build off his OWN momentum, not Drinks, or if the 9-5 bounceback was a fluke. We can still win the conference.

Because of the extra year of eligibility next year will be fully Shawn Clark's Team. I really do think Drinkwitz and the pandemic did a number on everything Appalachian, we just did not know it at the time, but we are still feeling the results.

One thing we do have now are big time fans that expect to win every game and for every game to be a blowout. I also imagine some of the people that are complaining the loudest are the ones who lost money on the game.

by appstate5 » Sun Sep 08, 2024 2:40 pm

Last night was the real "Bombs over Baghdad", that's one game I wish I would not have attended.
So if we finish 10-2 or 9-3 and miraculously make it into the playoff but get blown out of the stadium again by an Ole Miss or UT.
Would everyone once again be happy with App State football?

Hey, if we make the playoffs we will not get blownout, because we will have fixed those problems by then.

Drink was here for one year. We are 5 years past his time here. At what point do people stop blaming him for lack of growth now?
As far as COVID, everyone had to deal with that as well. We should be further along in our growth process is what I am hearing many on here say.

[AppSt94]

Drink was here for one year, one. And the pandemic affected everyone, not just our favorite school. I’m not saying to get rid of anyone at this point, but STOP blaming things from years ago and playing like we were the only ones who were affected by Covid. Basically you’re saying everyone else just adjusted better.

True. But here is where the Drink hire was a catalyst to where we went and where we are trying to get back too. Gillin wanted to hire from within after 2018. It is likely that some of the staff from 2018 would have stayed and staff continuity is a critical aspect to success. I’m not suggesting that Ponce would have stayed but starting in 2018, we have had a different play caller every year until this year including two in 2020. Not to mention the numerous Defensive Back coaches. This staff loves working for Clark. His work/life balance is appreciated by the coaches.

[AppinVA]

Drink was here for one year, one. And the pandemic affected everyone, not just our favorite school. I’m not saying to get rid of anyone at this point, but STOP blaming things from years ago and playing like we were the only ones who were affected by Covid. Basically you’re saying everyone else just adjusted better.

True. But here is where the Drink hire was a catalyst to where we went and where we are trying to get back too. Gillin wanted to hire from within after 2018. It is likely that some of the staff from 2018 would have stayed and staff continuity is a critical aspect to success. I’m not suggesting that Ponce would have stayed but starting in 2018, we have had a different play caller every year until this year including two in 2020. Not to mention the numerous Defensive Back coaches. This staff loves working for Clark. His work/life balance is appreciated by the coaches.

I was unaware Drink hired Tony Petersen and then Barbay. And promoted a defensive coordinator who had proven he was better as a linebackers coach, because of his previous experience as a coordinator. But, though I’ll admit it doesn’t sound like it, my intention is not to slam on Clark. My point is that we can’t continue to blame someone who won here and went to and is winning in a place that was still a hot mess in Missouri because of racial allegations, only three years prior. He rescued them from the ultimate third rail.

[311neers]

Clemson just scored again.
Onto next week! 24 hours is (almost) up.

[Stonewall]

This is Clark’s team.His responsibility. Six days. No excuses.

[AppSt94]

Drink was here for one year, one. And the pandemic affected everyone, not just our favorite school. I’m not saying to get rid of anyone at this point, but STOP blaming things from years ago and playing like we were the only ones who were affected by Covid. Basically you’re saying everyone else just adjusted better.

True. But here is where the Drink hire was a catalyst to where we went and where we are trying to get back too. Gillin wanted to hire from within after 2018. It is likely that some of the staff from 2018 would have stayed and staff continuity is a critical aspect to success. I’m not suggesting that Ponce would have stayed but starting in 2018, we have had a different play caller every year until this year including two in 2020. Not to mention the numerous Defensive Back coaches. This staff loves working for Clark. His work/life balance is appreciated by the coaches.

I was unaware Drink hired Tony Petersen and then Barbay. And promoted a defensive coordinator who had proven he was better as a linebackers coach, because of his previous experience as a coordinator. But, though I’ll admit it doesn’t sound like it, my intention is not to slam on Clark. My point is that we can’t continue to blame someone who won here and went to and is winning in a place that was still a hot mess in Missouri because of racial allegations, only three years prior. He rescued them from the ultimate third rail.

Didn’t say that Drink hired those guys. I said that his hiring was the catalyst to a revolving door or coaches. If you recall, Clark hired Clemson’s current OC to be the OC and he bailed pretty quickly. If Clark were hired in 2019, Ivey is likely the DC and Jones in the LB coach.

[NewApp]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/ ... 7d5e&ei=24

Here's a headline for the locker room.

They took out their frustrations on us.

[AppinVA]

Drink was here for one year, one. And the pandemic affected everyone, not just our favorite school. I’m not saying to get rid of anyone at this point, but STOP blaming things from years ago and playing like we were the only ones who were affected by Covid. Basically you’re saying everyone else just adjusted better.

True. But here is where the Drink hire was a catalyst to where we went and where we are trying to get back too. Gillin wanted to hire from within after 2018. It is likely that some of the staff from 2018 would have stayed and staff continuity is a critical aspect to success. I’m not suggesting that Ponce would have stayed but starting in 2018, we have had a different play caller every year until this year including two in 2020. Not to mention the numerous Defensive Back coaches. This staff loves working for Clark. His work/life balance is appreciated by the coaches.

I was unaware Drink hired Tony Petersen and then Barbay. And promoted a defensive coordinator who had proven he was better as a linebackers coach, because of his previous experience as a coordinator. But, though I’ll admit it doesn’t sound like it, my intention is not to slam on Clark. My point is that we can’t continue to blame someone who won here and went to and is winning in a place that was still a hot mess in Missouri because of racial allegations, only three years prior. He rescued them from the ultimate third rail.

Didn’t say that Drink hired those guys. I said that his hiring was the catalyst to a revolving door or coaches. If you recall, Clark hired Clemson’s current OC to be the OC and he bailed pretty quickly. If Clark were hired in 2019, Ivey is likely the DC and Jones in the LB coach.

It’s hard to say how it all would’ve turned out, but I could get used to Ivy as a DC all these years.