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Unread post by appgrad95&97 » Sun Sep 08, 2024 12:31 pm

In September of 2017 we played a Georgia team that probably should have won the National Championship. We lost 31-10. Not even a national championship caliber team did to us what Clemson did last night. The overall regression of this progam is real. I don't have answers. But I'm not blind.

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Re: Here's something to think about

Unread post by AppWyo » Sun Sep 08, 2024 2:54 pm

appgrad95&97 wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 12:31 pm
In September of 2017 we played a Georgia team that probably should have won the National Championship. We lost 31-10. Not even a national championship caliber team did to us what Clemson did last night. The overall regression of this progam is real. I don't have answers. But I'm not blind.
I really do believe that Drinkwitz's winning did a number on Appalachian from which we have not fully recovered.



Last night was a reevaluation game for Appalachian like last week's game was for Clemson.

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Re: Here's something to think about

Unread post by AppDub » Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:17 pm

AppWyo wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 2:54 pm
appgrad95&97 wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 12:31 pm
In September of 2017 we played a Georgia team that probably should have won the National Championship. We lost 31-10. Not even a national championship caliber team did to us what Clemson did last night. The overall regression of this progam is real. I don't have answers. But I'm not blind.
I really do believe that Drinkwitz's winning did a number on Appalachian from which we have not fully recovered.



Last night was a reevaluation game for Appalachian like last week's game was for Clemson.
What exactly do you mean? Serious question.

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Unread post by appstatealum » Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:24 pm

I believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?
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Re: Here's something to think about

Unread post by AppDub » Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:28 pm

appstatealum wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:24 pm
I believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?
Exactly. He was a very good coach who wasn't worried about being the nice guy and liked by everyone. He was a professional who did what he was paid to do...win games.

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Re: Here's something to think about

Unread post by AppWyo » Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:32 pm

AppDub wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:28 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:24 pm
I believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?
Exactly. He was a very good coach who wasn't worried about being the nice guy and liked by everyone. He was a professional who did what he was paid to do...win games.
I do not believe he would have sustained that for very long.

Professional? I believe he was a real jerk that just used us...
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Re: Here's something to think about

Unread post by BTK2000 » Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:34 pm

Hey be careful asking questions like that. Anything other than full throated support make you a bad fan

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Re: Here's something to think about

Unread post by AppinVA » Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:36 pm

AppWyo wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:32 pm
AppDub wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:28 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:24 pm
I believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?
Exactly. He was a very good coach who wasn't worried about being the nice guy and liked by everyone. He was a professional who did what he was paid to do...win games.
I do not believe he would have sustained that for very long.
So, you’re saying he couldn’t sustain a winning program at a place wheee winning is a standard, but in reality, he’s built a winner at a place that has generally accepted mediocrity all the while doing it in the best conference in college football. Got it.
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Unread post by 311neers » Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:38 pm

AppinVA wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:36 pm
AppWyo wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:32 pm
AppDub wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:28 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:24 pm
I believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?
Exactly. He was a very good coach who wasn't worried about being the nice guy and liked by everyone. He was a professional who did what he was paid to do...win games.
I do not believe he would have sustained that for very long.
So, you’re saying he couldn’t sustain a winning program at a place wheee winning is a standard, but in reality, he’s built a winner at a place that has generally accepted mediocrity all the while doing it in the best conference in college football. Got it.
Exactly haha. He’s got Mizzou in playoff contention the past 2-3 years.

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Re: Here's something to think about

Unread post by AppDub » Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:41 pm

AppWyo wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:32 pm
AppDub wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:28 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:24 pm
I believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?
Exactly. He was a very good coach who wasn't worried about being the nice guy and liked by everyone. He was a professional who did what he was paid to do...win games.
I do not believe he would have sustained that for very long.

Professional? I believe he was a real jerk that just used us...
Let's just hire all the nice guys and stay mediocre.

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Re: Here's something to think about

Unread post by appgrad95&97 » Sun Sep 08, 2024 4:00 pm

AppWyo wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 2:54 pm
appgrad95&97 wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 12:31 pm
In September of 2017 we played a Georgia team that probably should have won the National Championship. We lost 31-10. Not even a national championship caliber team did to us what Clemson did last night. The overall regression of this progam is real. I don't have answers. But I'm not blind.
I really do believe that Drinkwitz's winning did a number on Appalachian from which we have not fully recovered.



Last night was a reevaluation game for Appalachian like last week's game was for Clemson.
You do realize 2017 was Satt not Drink?

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Re: Here's something to think about

Unread post by Black Saturday » Sun Sep 08, 2024 4:03 pm

appstatealum wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:24 pm
I believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?
Scratching my head as to where I've seen a similar situation :o
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Unread post by Black Saturday » Sun Sep 08, 2024 4:17 pm

appgrad95&97 wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 12:31 pm
In September of 2017 we played a Georgia team that probably should have won the National Championship. We lost 31-10. Not even a national championship caliber team did to us what Clemson did last night. The overall regression of this progam is real. I don't have answers. But I'm not blind.
It's about the Jimmys and Joes

How many did we have on our roster that eventually spent time in NFL camps and on rosters as compared to now???


Money and NIL and other things have changed the landscape of CFB, not sure our game with Georgia is a fair comparison to our beat down , and Clemson has the horses to win the National Championship this year. One loss to Georgia early doesn't define where Clemson will finish, just like Clemson kicking shit out of us last night keep us from winning the conference and our bowl game.
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Unread post by appstatealum » Sun Sep 08, 2024 4:34 pm

AppWyo wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:32 pm
AppDub wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:28 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:24 pm
I believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?
Exactly. He was a very good coach who wasn't worried about being the nice guy and liked by everyone. He was a professional who did what he was paid to do...win games.
I do not believe he would have sustained that for very long.

Professional? I believe he was a real jerk that just used us...
Oh, i had two interactions with him and he was a grade A ass. Fake and looked like he always wanted to be somewhere else. But he won
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Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sun Sep 08, 2024 5:20 pm

appstatealum wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 4:34 pm
AppWyo wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:32 pm
AppDub wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:28 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:24 pm
I believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?
Exactly. He was a very good coach who wasn't worried about being the nice guy and liked by everyone. He was a professional who did what he was paid to do...win games.
I do not believe he would have sustained that for very long.

Professional? I believe he was a real jerk that just used us...
Oh, i had two interactions with him and he was a grade A ass. Fake and looked like he always wanted to be somewhere else. But he won
As long as the coach wins I don't care. Shawn has a winning record but has not had that special season that Drink had yet. I would not have wanted Drink to stay long but if you could guarantee 2019 type results I would take it every time.

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Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sun Sep 08, 2024 5:22 pm

AppDub wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:28 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:24 pm
I believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?
Exactly. He was a very good coach who wasn't worried about being the nice guy and liked by everyone. He was a professional who did what he was paid to do...win games.
I don't care about my personal influence or whether I like a coach either. I just care if they win games within the rules. Shawn Clark is paid to be the HC of App State and win games. That is the simple fact. He is not paid to be liked or kiss butt of boosters. The reality is if you win everyone will be happy. Some might complain about personality but nobody will call for your job if you win.

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Unread post by Stonewall » Sun Sep 08, 2024 6:24 pm

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Unread post by RunawayJM » Sun Sep 08, 2024 6:28 pm

AppWyo wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:32 pm
AppDub wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:28 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:24 pm
I believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?
Exactly. He was a very good coach who wasn't worried about being the nice guy and liked by everyone. He was a professional who did what he was paid to do...win games.
I do not believe he would have sustained that for very long.

Professional? I believe he was a real jerk that just used us...
You don’t believe he would have sustained that very long? LOL. He’s got Missouri ranked in the top 10 and played in multiple SEC championship games.

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Unread post by NewApp » Sun Sep 08, 2024 6:40 pm

AppinVA wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:36 pm
AppWyo wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:32 pm
AppDub wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:28 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:24 pm
I believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?
Exactly. He was a very good coach who wasn't worried about being the nice guy and liked by everyone. He was a professional who did what he was paid to do...win games.
I do not believe he would have sustained that for very long.
So, you’re saying he couldn’t sustain a winning program at a place wheee winning is a standard, but in reality, he’s built a winner at a place that has generally accepted mediocrity all the while doing it in the best conference in college football. Got it.
What criteria makes this the best conference in college football? Not disagreeing, just want to know.
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Unread post by AppinVA » Sun Sep 08, 2024 7:02 pm

NewApp wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 6:40 pm
AppinVA wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:36 pm
AppWyo wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:32 pm
AppDub wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:28 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:24 pm
I believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?
Exactly. He was a very good coach who wasn't worried about being the nice guy and liked by everyone. He was a professional who did what he was paid to do...win games.
I do not believe he would have sustained that for very long.
So, you’re saying he couldn’t sustain a winning program at a place wheee winning is a standard, but in reality, he’s built a winner at a place that has generally accepted mediocrity all the while doing it in the best conference in college football. Got it.
What criteria makes this the best conference in college football? Not disagreeing, just want to know.
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