Here's something to think about

[DenverOfTheEast]

In September of 2017 we played a Georgia team that probably should have won the National Championship. We lost 31-10. Not even a national championship caliber team did to us what Clemson did last night. The overall regression of this progam is real. I don't have answers. But I'm not blind.

A whole helluva lot has changed in college athletics and football since then. Not the same sport.

How many of those seniors and juniors on that 2017 would have left before they got to their junior or senior season.

App State is going to have to step up the NIL money to be a playoff contender And dummy down the schedule.

All that matters is being undefeated at season end, who cares who anyone beats. in 2015 or 2016 it was fun to play Miami, now it's about playoffs.

Things change. Must evolve or get left behind!!

[Stonewall]

Drink can coach. And make a ton of money doing it. Good for him. My concern is the here , and now. How will the team respond Saturday? Six days.

[yosef69]

We have fans who are okay with us being lil ole app.

Who cares how nice the coach is? Just win.

(Obviously don’t treat the kids like shit, commit violations, etc.)

[DenverOfTheEast]

Drinkwitz was NOT voted Coach of the year in 2019......he went 13-1 and the media and peers did NOT vote him coach of the year.

means they all expected that team to be good, most likely they expected him to go undefeated and it didn't happen.

[t4pizza]

I believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?

Exactly. He was a very good coach who wasn't worried about being the nice guy and liked by everyone. He was a professional who did what he was paid to do...win games.

I do not believe he would have sustained that for very long.

Professional? I believe he was a real jerk that just used us...

You don’t believe he would have sustained that very long? LOL. He’s got Missouri ranked in the top 10 and played in multiple SEC championship games.

Perhaps I misunderstand your post, but Drink has NOT played in any SEC championship games. While he has done a nice job at Missouri thus far, he hasn't made the championship game. 2020 was his first year at Missouri and Florida won the SEC East that year, the following 3 years have been won by Georgia. We don't need to make him out to be something that he isn't, his record is good enough as it is.

[AppDub]

I believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?

Exactly. He was a very good coach who wasn't worried about being the nice guy and liked by everyone. He was a professional who did what he was paid to do...win games.

I do not believe he would have sustained that for very long.

So, you’re saying he couldn’t sustain a winning program at a place wheee winning is a standard, but in reality, he’s built a winner at a place that has generally accepted mediocrity all the while doing it in the best conference in college football. Got it.

What criteria makes this the best conference in college football? Not disagreeing, just want to know.

The SEC

[spacemonkey]

I believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?

Exactly. He was a very good coach who wasn't worried about being the nice guy and liked by everyone. He was a professional who did what he was paid to do...win games.

I don't care about my personal influence or whether I like a coach either. I just care if they win games within the rules. Shawn Clark is paid to be the HC of App State and win games. That is the simple fact. He is not paid to be liked or kiss butt of boosters. The reality is if you win everyone will be happy. Some might complain about personality but nobody will call for your job if you win.

This is not even close to true. He is paid for way more than just winning.

[yosef69]

I believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?

Exactly. He was a very good coach who wasn't worried about being the nice guy and liked by everyone. He was a professional who did what he was paid to do...win games.

I don't care about my personal influence or whether I like a coach either. I just care if they win games within the rules. Shawn Clark is paid to be the HC of App State and win games. That is the simple fact. He is not paid to be liked or kiss butt of boosters. The reality is if you win everyone will be happy. Some might complain about personality but nobody will call for your job if you win.

This is not even close to true. He is paid for way more than just winning.

His number one priority, and it’s not close, is win games. Especially in the NIL age.

[Bootsy]

I believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?

Exactly. He was a very good coach who wasn't worried about being the nice guy and liked by everyone. He was a professional who did what he was paid to do...win games.

I do not believe he would have sustained that for very long.

Professional? I believe he was a real jerk that just used us...

You don’t believe he would have sustained that very long? LOL. He’s got Missouri ranked in the top 10 and played in multiple SEC championship games.

Perhaps I misunderstand your post, but Drink has NOT played in any SEC championship games. While he has done a nice job at Missouri thus far, he hasn't made the championship game. 2020 was his first year at Missouri and Florida won the SEC East that year, the following 3 years have been won by Georgia. We don't need to make him out to be something that he isn't, his record is good enough as it is.

True, Drink hasn’t won any CC’s yet. But it’s hard to argue with the Mizzou’s trajectory since he took the helm.

[MrCraig]

Exactly. He was a very good coach who wasn't worried about being the nice guy and liked by everyone. He was a professional who did what he was paid to do...win games.

I do not believe he would have sustained that for very long.

Professional? I believe he was a real jerk that just used us...

You don’t believe he would have sustained that very long? LOL. He’s got Missouri ranked in the top 10 and played in multiple SEC championship games.

Perhaps I misunderstand your post, but Drink has NOT played in any SEC championship games. While he has done a nice job at Missouri thus far, he hasn't made the championship game. 2020 was his first year at Missouri and Florida won the SEC East that year, the following 3 years have been won by Georgia. We don't need to make him out to be something that he isn't, his record is good enough as it is.

True, Drink hasn’t won any CC’s yet. But it’s hard to argue with the Mizzou’s trajectory since he took the helm.

I’m not a hater, I think Drink is a good coach, but he’s still got a lot to prove. He had 3 very mediocre seasons and then a big year last year. It remains to be seen if he can maintain that. Mizzou fans may well be talking about Drink the way we talk about Clark in a year or two.